Breaking: Tom Brady suspended 4 games, 2016 1st rounder gone.

Opal312

I'm on page 78 of the Wells Report. The investigation is very interesting indeed. There's a part in the report that goes back to 2004 when McNally was reprimanded by NFL officials for providing footballs that were not legal. He made some excuse about the weather but the NFL warned him and the Patriots and that was not all.

In 2006 Brady lobbied The NFL to change the rules to let teams on the road provide and prepare their own balls.he was quite cognizant of the psi etc.

McNally who,worked for the team for 32 years was known by everyone in the orginization but Brady said he didn't know his name.

The Law firm hired to investigate pleaded with the Patriots to let them interview McNally but were denied access to him. They also hired a company called Exponent to perform dozens of scientific tests on the footballs regarding loss of psi.

After reading this report you can't deny Tom was doing this for years and refused to cooperate with Wells.

Why didn't he just come clean in the beginning and admit he liked the psi under 12.5 the legal minimum. Every other team has to abide by the rules so I'm sick of people dismissing this as piling on.

Comeonman

A jury is not supposed to take into account when a defendant does not testify, but I've heard jurors with my own ears say it does play a part. I believe he didn't cooperate because he's knows he's guilty. I could be completely wrong though ?

cuwoohio

Taco918

@cuwoohio said:

Haha didn't Bobby Valentine try something like that with the Mets after he got ejected?

cuwoohio

@taco918 said:
Haha didn't Bobby Valentine try something like that with the Mets after he got ejected?

Yes I believe he did

gumby73

All Else fails Blame the Browns:: So all sources say We got off because all Browns Officials cooperated with League investigations in Text gate. So are we saying, Jimmy Haslem phone was also reviewed by league for Messages.. If so Tom Brady has nothing to hide over Haslem (Flying V) besides the truth. Unless Brady give up the smoking gun (phone) he's got no chance to get this reduced IMO...

cdl15

This suspension is not only ridiculous but it's laughable

hoorta

@comeonman said:
A jury is not supposed to take into account when a defendant does not testify, but I've heard jurors with my own ears say it does play a part. I believe he didn't cooperate because he's knows he's guilty. I could be completely wrong though

& that's why the League hammered him.

I agree with Gip- taking away draft picks hurts the fans- but it seems old Tom has been using deflated balls for years.

gftChris

@hoorta said:

& that's why the League hammered him.

I agree with Gip- taking away draft picks hurts the fans- but it seems old Tom has been using deflated balls for years.

I'm surprised Giselle puts up with it.

LondonBrown

@gftchris said:
I'm surprised Giselle puts up with it.

Wahey

WalterWhite

What if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?

gftChris

@walterwhite said:
What if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?

I'll trade a 6th rounder for Brady.

Comeonman

@walterwhite said:
What if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?

The rich get richer. See Manning/Luck

gftChris

@comeonman said:
The rich get richer. See Manning/Luck

The colts lucked in to Luck, they were picking #1 - whoever sucked most that year would have had him.

Pats otoh, Garoppolo was taken in the second round, anyone could have had him.

The Gipper

@walterwhite said:
What if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?

Pretty rare that lightning strikes twice in the same place. A lower round draft pick becoming a megastar? Per my research, since Tom Brady was drafted in 2000 there is exactly ONE other QB drafted in round 3 or lower that could or has reached that level....and that is Russell Wilson,

Beyond Brady and Wilson the best round 3 or lower draft picks are probably Nick Foles, Matt Schaub, David Garrard and Marc Bulger.

And yes, I know that Garrapolo was a second round pick. If I include second rounders only 3 other names crop up that represent really quality QBs since 2000: Drew Brees, Andy Dalton??, and Colin Kaepernick.

So, no, if a top notch QB emerges from round 2 or below I see the candidates being Foles, Kaepernick, David Carr...and maybe Mettenberger.

Does Garropolo have a chance? Yes, but no better than a dozen other draftees.....like Brock Osweiler, Mike Glennon, Geno Smith and a few others.

Tour2ma

@gftchris said:
The colts lucked in to Luck, they were picking #1 - whoever sucked most that year would have had him.

The Colts helped their suck "a little"...

Manning was cleared to play with about 3 weeks left in the season IIRC... Colts said no hurry to rush back.

Biggest tank job I can remember in the NFL.. and Orlovski nearly messed it up with two late season wins

Unsympathetic

How is anyone actually doubting the conclusion?

"More probable than not" IS THE STANDARD for legal issues. You're welcome to not like reality, but that doesn't change anything.

News flash: The vast majority of everything is a hypothesis, NOT A PROOF.

miktoxic

outside of NE fans, who really gives a shit about this?

yeah it might have given brady the slightest of slight advantages (more in his mind) but i don't remember them having a perfect season last year. they still lost games and brady still threw interceptions so........

i guess the refs didn't do their due diligence in not checking the air before during and after each game. hell let's stop the game after each play because a stack of players fell on the ball and god knows you better check to make sure no air escaped it.

Comeonman

@unsympathetic said:

How is anyone actually doubting the conclusion?

"More probable than not" IS THE STANDARD for legal issues. You're welcome to not like reality, but that doesn't change anything.

News flash: The vast majority of everything is a hypothesis, NOT A PROOF.

Exactly. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is the way the law is here in TX. If you had to have rock solid "smoking gun" proof, almost NO ONE would be convicted

Opal312

Just wait until McNally sells the story to ESPN. I can't blame him either because all he got was new-kicks and autographed balls and jerseys. ESPN will make him a millionaire.