Supreme Court permits LAPD to be sued for concealing evidence
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I think our Justice system needs to have a serious look at it, though no politician will likely do anything. We have the highest incarceration rate(among all that report incarceration rates and a random tiny African country), our justice system was meant to err on the side of letting a guilty man go free than having an innocent man in jail.
I think our Justice system needs to have a serious look at it, though no politician will likely do anything. We have the highest incarceration rate(among all that report incarceration rates and a random tiny African country), our justice system was meant to err on the side of letting a guilty man go free than having an innocent man in jail.
Well infairness African countries have a much higher percentage of black people so... (sorry, I had to)
But I think the police should be straight up with any and all evidence. I also think that evidence should be allowed, real evidence, no matter how it is obtained. the bottom line of the justice system should be to catch the bad guy and exonerate the good guy, not a game of Jenga.
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I think our Justice system needs to have a serious look at it, though no politician will likely do anything. We have the highest incarceration rate(among all that report incarceration rates and a random tiny African country), our justice system was meant to err on the side of letting a guilty man go free than having an innocent man in jail.
Well infairness African countries have a much higher percentage of black people so... (sorry, I had to)
But I think the police should be straight up with any and all evidence. I also think that evidence should be allowed, real evidence, no matter how it is obtained. the bottom line of the justice system should be to catch the bad guy and exonerate the good guy, not a game of Jenga.
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Well infairness African countries have a much higher percentage of black people so... (sorry, I had to)
But I think the police should be straight up with any and all evidence. I also think that evidence should be allowed, real evidence, no matter how it is obtained. the bottom line of the justice system should be to catch the bad guy and exonerate the good guy, not a game of Jenga.
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Do you feel our Justice system does that? Or that we should have incarceration rates higher than everyone in the world? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate except for Seychelles(I honestly never heard of that place till today) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seychelles
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You'd never heard of the seychelles? Well, ok. Paradise.
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Sad I don't think the incarceration rate has much to do with the justice system, unless of course you feel it's the justice system that decides what's illegal and what isn't. sure we can legalize a big load of crimes and cut down on that. In most cases I don't care. What I'm talking about is the rules of evidence. I think if the cops have a piece of evidence that would exonerate somebody it's their duty to provide it. I also think if they sneak into a guys house and find a bale of heroin or a stack of child porn video tapes that evidence should be allowed. And no, for any of the Liberals about to bitch, I don't think evidence should be manufactured.
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I couldn't help but notice Yemen. I don't suppose there's much I'd like to trade places with them on.
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I am including what is or is not legal into the Justice system, and also the amount of punishment of the crime. There are many privatized prisons that usually have quotas with the state, that if they fall below a certain rate get money back from the state http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/6-shocking-revelations-about-how-private-prisons-make-their-money
I do agree with if the cops have evidence they should bring it forward, the search warrant only says we can take this or look here is a little bit more arguable(if they find it in the coarse of searching what the warrant asked to search yes, but it can't just be an open warrant to raid a house to try and find something illegal)
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it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?
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it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?
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it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?
it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?
Well that's semantics, I would say that would involve legalizing, or decriminalizing possession of illegal drugs. I have no, well very little at least, problem with that.
Anyone know what all those prisoners in Sevechelle have been convicted of?
Seems like a reasonably ok place aside from that right?
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You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.
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I think there's a lot of somali pirates ending up there because it's a UN prison.
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it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?
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You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.
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You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.
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And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
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You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.
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And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
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Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
WSS
Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
WSS
He did say undesireables.
Most of those people you mentioned are just that
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Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
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He did say undesireables.
Most of those people you mentioned are just that
He did say undesireables.
Most of those people you mentioned are just that
LOL
true again.
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Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
WSS
He did say undesireables.
Most of those people you mentioned are just that
He did say undesireables.
Most of those people you mentioned are just that
right, I thought my original explanation was self explanatory. Undesireables all around if you ask me.
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According to Wikipedia, from a quick skim it seems the number is about 500,000 people inside for drug related offenses, doesn't give more detail than that. So naturally everyone will infer to their own end
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According to Wikipedia, from a quick skim it seems the number is about 500,000 people inside for drug related offenses, doesn't give more detail than that. So naturally everyone will infer to their own end
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How's that?
And so nobody can start crying about top right news or the Drudge Report this is from Rolling Stone, man.
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