Supreme Court permits LAPD to be sued for concealing evidence
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I couldn't help but notice Yemen. I don't suppose there's much I'd like to trade places with them on.
WSS
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I am including what is or is not legal into the Justice system, and also the amount of punishment of the crime. There are many privatized prisons that usually have quotas with the state, that if they fall below a certain rate get money back from the state http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/6-shocking-revelations-about-how-private-prisons-make-their-money
I do agree with if the cops have evidence they should bring it forward, the search warrant only says we can take this or look here is a little bit more arguable(if they find it in the coarse of searching what the warrant asked to search yes, but it can't just be an open warrant to raid a house to try and find something illegal)
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it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?
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it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?
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it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?
it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?
Well that's semantics, I would say that would involve legalizing, or decriminalizing possession of illegal drugs. I have no, well very little at least, problem with that.
Anyone know what all those prisoners in Sevechelle have been convicted of?
Seems like a reasonably ok place aside from that right?
WSS
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You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.
WSS
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I think there's a lot of somali pirates ending up there because it's a UN prison.
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it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?
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You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.
WSS
You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.
WSS
And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
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You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.
WSS
And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
WSS
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Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
WSS
Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
WSS
He did say undesireables.
Most of those people you mentioned are just that
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Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
WSS
He did say undesireables.
Most of those people you mentioned are just that
He did say undesireables.
Most of those people you mentioned are just that
LOL
true again.
WSS
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Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
WSS
He did say undesireables.
Most of those people you mentioned are just that
He did say undesireables.
Most of those people you mentioned are just that
right, I thought my original explanation was self explanatory. Undesireables all around if you ask me.
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According to Wikipedia, from a quick skim it seems the number is about 500,000 people inside for drug related offenses, doesn't give more detail than that. So naturally everyone will infer to their own end
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According to Wikipedia, from a quick skim it seems the number is about 500,000 people inside for drug related offenses, doesn't give more detail than that. So naturally everyone will infer to their own end
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How's that?
And so nobody can start crying about top right news or the Drudge Report this is from Rolling Stone, man.
WSS
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You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.
WSS
And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables
ur missing it. since it's decriminalized tons of people in CO still buy from their dude and don't bother spending $50 to get their red card. it's a social drug, if it's the same price and quality as the dispensary, they just as soon chill w their peeps and obtain it old school...especially since the penalty for getting caught is negligible. now if the laws were stiff and they could obtain it legally on a state level through a dispensary, it would undoubtedly change that.
Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money?
supply and demand set the price, with the free market keeping it in check. decriminalized, they can't charge more than the black market given the quality is equal. dispensaries sell here starting at 2 Mil, with extensive background checks and tight regulations. we Coloradan's are both the guinea pig and the blueprint, and ur idealistic views don't match w reality. it's not some free for all wild west of residents blazing blunts nonstop down the streets.
.And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat.
sounds easy on paper. first off where you gonna do it? outside? it can easily be eaten by mammals or stolen. the smell is a pretty good indicator.
not everyone has a spare bedroom, many live in apartments or retirement homes, etc etc. it costs a couple grand to set up and ads a few hundred to ur light bill monthly. lights are good for two cycles (about 6 months) and cost a benjamin each. odor is also an issue, many neighbors don't wanna constantly smell it. etc.
it's still a schedule 1 federally, many don't want to risk their lives and families over it.
growing also puts tons of moisture in the air and can warp the structure of a home, many landlords don't want their properties to have doors that will no longer close into the frame, just as an example. also, speaking federally, if they can prove the landlord had knowledge of the grow they can seize the property.
Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
there are 23 states who allow it for medical, 3 or 4 recreational. Ohio is voting on it this month, and word is the majority is in fact in favor. South American cartels don't make their money from ganja. nobody and i mean NOBODY is buying outdoor brick w seeds anymore, not w all the options inside the States nowadays. cartels build their bankroll from meth, heroin, coke etc, shit we can't easily manufacture here. so u wanna legalize those?
just some food for thought, next door to CO Kansas will imprison you for 12-17 years for cultivating 3 or more plants, that includes driving thru on your way to help out a dying relative that lives in, say, Missouri. get pulled over for out of state plates, run a background check on their license, and any conviction whatsoever at any point in ur life can allow a cop to call the K-9, the handler can then manipulate the dog or say it "signalled", then search ur vehicle. so basically u can have a little bit of mud on ur plates, or u didn't have ur seatbelt on or they are looking for a vehicle that matches ur description or say u were following too closely etc etc and get pulled over, have one dui or paraphernalia charge or really anything on ur record from 20 years ago, or they could just say they smelled pot whether they did or not, and next thing u know ur looking at a decade plus in prison...and dipshit's like westside steve are lobbying for illegal search and seizure cuz he makes a distinction between getting drunk daily and child pornography and drugs he doesn't care for.
Steve, watch what u wish for. with dirty cops outnumbering fair and just cops who aren't petty or self rightous but just doing their jobs by roughly 50 to 1, in ur hands this country would be under martial law in 5 years, instead of the 20 it will most likely take them as of now. you criticize liberals but ur no better. i am a constitutionalist and libertarian, and all i know is u sure as fuck aren't one of me. now go suck a bag of dicks. or 5. faggot.
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remember it's actually a piece of cake to grow excellent weed in your house. making your own beer or whiskey is possible but not nearly easy to make something to equal the quality of commercial products.
WSS
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Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
WSS
Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.
One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?
WSS
ur fake claims and made up numbers do little but disgust the informed. decriminalizing mj creates profits ten fold all of what you have listed, and u sound as though it is also preferable. ignorant westside propoganda. i have better things to do than to spend all day correcting you...so enjoy ur drink, and please, don't drive. you are dismissed.
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And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables
ur missing it. since it's decriminalized tons of people in CO still buy from their dude and don't bother spending $50 to get their red card. it's a social drug, if it's the same price and quality as the dispensary, they just as soon chill w their peeps and obtain it old school...especially since the penalty for getting caught is negligible. now if the laws were stiff and they could obtain it legally on a state level through a dispensary, it would undoubtedly change that.
Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money?
supply and demand set the price, with the free market keeping it in check. decriminalized, they can't charge more than the black market given the quality is equal. dispensaries sell here starting at 2 Mil, with extensive background checks and tight regulations. we Coloradan's are both the guinea pig and the blueprint, and ur idealistic views don't match w reality. it's not some free for all wild west of residents blazing blunts nonstop down the streets.
.And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat.
sounds easy on paper. first off where you gonna do it? outside? it can easily be eaten by mammals or stolen. the smell is a pretty good indicator.
not everyone has a spare bedroom, many live in apartments or retirement homes, etc etc. it costs a couple grand to set up and ads a few hundred to ur light bill monthly. lights are good for two cycles (about 6 months) and cost a benjamin each. odor is also an issue, many neighbors don't wanna constantly smell it. etc.
it's still a schedule 1 federally, many don't want to risk their lives and families over it.
growing also puts tons of moisture in the air and can warp the structure of a home, many landlords don't want their properties to have doors that will no longer close into the frame, just as an example. also, speaking federally, if they can prove the landlord had knowledge of the grow they can seize the property.
Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.
there are 23 states who allow it for medical, 3 or 4 recreational. Ohio is voting on it this month, and word is the majority is in fact in favor. South American cartels don't make their money from ganja. nobody and i mean NOBODY is buying outdoor brick w seeds anymore, not w all the options inside the States nowadays. cartels build their bankroll from meth, heroin, coke etc, shit we can't easily manufacture here. so u wanna legalize those?
just some food for thought, next door to CO Kansas will imprison you for 12-17 years for cultivating 3 or more plants, that includes driving thru on your way to help out a dying relative that lives in, say, Missouri. get pulled over for out of state plates, run a background check on their license, and any conviction whatsoever at any point in ur life can allow a cop to call the K-9, the handler can then manipulate the dog or say it "signalled", then search ur vehicle. so basically u can have a little bit of mud on ur plates, or u didn't have ur seatbelt on or they are looking for a vehicle that matches ur description or say u were following too closely etc etc and get pulled over, have one dui or paraphernalia charge or really anything on ur record from 20 years ago, or they could just say they smelled pot whether they did or not, and next thing u know ur looking at a decade plus in prison...and dipshit's like westside steve are lobbying for illegal search and seizure cuz he makes a distinction between getting drunk daily and child pornography and drugs he doesn't care for.
Steve, watch what u wish for. with dirty cops outnumbering fair and just cops who aren't petty or self rightous but just doing their jobs by roughly 50 to 1, in ur hands this country would be under martial law in 5 years, instead of the 20 it will most likely take them as of now. you criticize liberals but ur no better. i am a constitutionalist and libertarian, and all i know is u sure as fuck aren't one of me. now go suck a bag of dicks. or 5. faggot.
interesting, I agree and disagree with you on some of your points. Being at work I cannot respond with any real veracity so i'll wait till tonight. But well done many well thought out points. You show that you actually come from a position of knowledge and exp unlike most of the boobs that run around here. Look forward to debating with you.
ur missing it. since it's decriminalized tons of people in CO still buy from their dude and don't bother spending $50 to get their red card. it's a social drug, if it's the same price and quality as the dispensary, they just as soon chill w their peeps and obtain it old school...especially since the penalty for getting caught is negligible. now if the laws were stiff and they could obtain it legally on a state level through a dispensary, it would undoubtedly change that.
supply and demand set the price, with the free market keeping it in check. decriminalized, they can't charge more than the black market given the quality is equal. dispensaries sell here starting at 2 Mil, with extensive background checks and tight regulations. we Coloradan's are both the guinea pig and the blueprint, and ur idealistic views don't match w reality. it's not some free for all wild west of residents blazing blunts nonstop down the streets.
sounds easy on paper. first off where you gonna do it? outside? it can easily be eaten by mammals or stolen. the smell is a pretty good indicator.
not everyone has a spare bedroom, many live in apartments or retirement homes, etc etc. it costs a couple grand to set up and ads a few hundred to ur light bill monthly. lights are good for two cycles (about 6 months) and cost a benjamin each. odor is also an issue, many neighbors don't wanna constantly smell it. etc.
it's still a schedule 1 federally, many don't want to risk their lives and families over it.
growing also puts tons of moisture in the air and can warp the structure of a home, many landlords don't want their properties to have doors that will no longer close into the frame, just as an example. also, speaking federally, if they can prove the landlord had knowledge of the grow they can seize the property.
there are 23 states who allow it for medical, 3 or 4 recreational. Ohio is voting on it this month, and word is the majority is in fact in favor. South American cartels don't make their money from ganja. nobody and i mean NOBODY is buying outdoor brick w seeds anymore, not w all the options inside the States nowadays. cartels build their bankroll from meth, heroin, coke etc, shit we can't easily manufacture here. so u wanna legalize those?
just some food for thought, next door to CO Kansas will imprison you for 12-17 years for cultivating 3 or more plants, that includes driving thru on your way to help out a dying relative that lives in, say, Missouri. get pulled over for out of state plates, run a background check on their license, and any conviction whatsoever at any point in ur life can allow a cop to call the K-9, the handler can then manipulate the dog or say it "signalled", then search ur vehicle. so basically u can have a little bit of mud on ur plates, or u didn't have ur seatbelt on or they are looking for a vehicle that matches ur description or say u were following too closely etc etc and get pulled over, have one dui or paraphernalia charge or really anything on ur record from 20 years ago, or they could just say they smelled pot whether they did or not, and next thing u know ur looking at a decade plus in prison...and dipshit's like westside steve are lobbying for illegal search and seizure cuz he makes a distinction between getting drunk daily and child pornography and drugs he doesn't care for.
Steve, watch what u wish for. with dirty cops outnumbering fair and just cops who aren't petty or self rightous but just doing their jobs by roughly 50 to 1, in ur hands this country would be under martial law in 5 years, instead of the 20 it will most likely take them as of now. you criticize liberals but ur no better. i am a constitutionalist and libertarian, and all i know is u sure as fuck aren't one of me. now go suck a bag of dicks. or 5. faggot.
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