Taking Christ's name in vain, Biden blasts biblical marriage 'bigots'
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I don't get how people think that becoming more educated, or less religious, means being more immoral in some way.
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I'm not religious and I am in a university. Does that make me evil? Yes? Cool.
Actually, my moral compass is solid and I think I'm a pretty friendly and respectful guy even if we may disagree.
Here's what I would be interested in reading because your guys banter and ignoring of others just to get your own point across has become extremely boring:
Christians of this board, make a compelling argument that Christianity is correct without using the bible as a source. Because if the bible makes you correct then why is the Koran incorrect? (Besides the appalling nature of some of the savage things the Koran teaches)
And before I get labeled as a libtard let's be clear that my vote consistently goes to the right.
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I don't get how people think that becoming more educated, or less religious, means being more immoral in some way.
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You are not living with any faith unless it is faith in yourself. You are also living without any hope. Not a way I would want to live.
Wait, what? I don't believe in the stories in an old book so I have no faith or hope?
I hope we can get to a point where religion is not a major part of society. I have faith that, as we become more intelligent as a whole, we'll get there.
Wait, what? I don't believe in the stories in an old book so I have no faith or hope?
I hope we can get to a point where religion is not a major part of society. I have faith that, as we become more intelligent as a whole, we'll get there.
I will take my hope and faith over what you just listed. Knowledge does not always translate into wisdom. What do you mean as we get more intelligent we'll get there? The technology is great but the nature of man has not evolved through knowledge. People today are excatly like they were in bible times but with cell phones and lap taps.
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Wait, what? I don't believe in the stories in an old book so I have no faith or hope?
I hope we can get to a point where religion is not a major part of society. I have faith that, as we become more intelligent as a whole, we'll get there.
I will take my hope and faith over what you just listed. Knowledge does not always translate into wisdom. What do you mean as we get more intelligent we'll get there? The technology is great but the nature of man has not evolved through knowledge. People today are excatly like they were in bible times but with cell phones and lap taps.
I will take my hope and faith over what you just listed. Knowledge does not always translate into wisdom. What do you mean as we get more intelligent we'll get there? The technology is great but the nature of man has not evolved through knowledge. People today are excatly like they were in bible times but with cell phones and lap taps.
Wowza.
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Wait, what? I don't believe in the stories in an old book so I have no faith or hope?
I hope we can get to a point where religion is not a major part of society. I have faith that, as we become more intelligent as a whole, we'll get there.
I will take my hope and faith over what you just listed. Knowledge does not always translate into wisdom. What do you mean as we get more intelligent we'll get there? The technology is great but the nature of man has not evolved through knowledge. People today are excatly like they were in bible times but with cell phones and lap taps.
I will take my hope and faith over what you just listed. Knowledge does not always translate into wisdom. What do you mean as we get more intelligent we'll get there? The technology is great but the nature of man has not evolved through knowledge. People today are excatly like they were in bible times but with cell phones and lap taps.
Reeeeaaaallllllyyyy?
Still waiting for that time table.
Also, for the Koran and its teachings being 'brutal' lets not forget the Old Testament does have its moment that aren't shining examples of how to NOT be brutal.
Cal - please don't lump me in with other atheists. I carry a certain degree of faith, however much like anything else I apply logic and critical thinking to avoid full indoctrination.
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I will take my hope and faith over what you just listed. Knowledge does not always translate into wisdom. What do you mean as we get more intelligent we'll get there? The technology is great but the nature of man has not evolved through knowledge. People today are excatly like they were in bible times but with cell phones and lap taps.
Reeeeaaaallllllyyyy?
Still waiting for that time table.
Also, for the Koran and its teachings being 'brutal' lets not forget the Old Testament does have its moment that aren't shining examples of how to NOT be brutal.
Cal - please don't lump me in with other atheists. I carry a certain degree of faith, however much like anything else I apply logic and critical thinking to avoid full indoctrination.
Reeeeaaaallllllyyyy?
Still waiting for that time table.
Also, for the Koran and its teachings being 'brutal' lets not forget the Old Testament does have its moment that aren't shining examples of how to NOT be brutal.
Cal - please don't lump me in with other atheists. I carry a certain degree of faith, however much like anything else I apply logic and critical thinking to avoid full indoctrination.
I posted a link to a site with 50 signs we are living in the end times. if you can't see it pray about it.
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Wait, what? I don't believe in the stories in an old book so I have no faith or hope?
I hope we can get to a point where religion is not a major part of society. I have faith that, as we become more intelligent as a whole, we'll get there.
I will take my hope and faith over what you just listed. Knowledge does not always translate into wisdom. What do you mean as we get more intelligent we'll get there? The technology is great but the nature of man has not evolved through knowledge. People today are excatly like they were in bible times but with cell phones and lap taps.
I will take my hope and faith over what you just listed. Knowledge does not always translate into wisdom. What do you mean as we get more intelligent we'll get there? The technology is great but the nature of man has not evolved through knowledge. People today are excatly like they were in bible times but with cell phones and lap taps.
Ummmm.... Not quite. For one we understand the Earth isn't 6,000 years old.
Ancient man didn't understand why the sun disappeared every night, so they used religion to explain it.
Our "modern" religions are just a step up.
We eventually learned why the sun disappears, what causes a strong harvest, etc, so we shunned and laughed at these ancient religions.
Modern man is now getting that same type of grasp on much more complex issues (evolution, creation of the earth, the universe, etc) and we will take the same path with these modern religions.
Someone today won't worship a Norse god because he has a basic understanding of the world. What will happen as our understanding grows?
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I'm not religious and I am in a university. Does that make me evil? Yes? Cool.
Actually, my moral compass is solid and I think I'm a pretty friendly and respectful guy even if we may disagree.
Here's what I would be interested in reading because your guys banter and ignoring of others just to get your own point across has become extremely boring:
Christians of this board, make a compelling argument that Christianity is correct without using the bible as a source. Because if the bible makes you correct then why is the Koran incorrect? (Besides the appalling nature of some of the savage things the Koran teaches)
And before I get labeled as a libtard let's be clear that my vote consistently goes to the right.
I'm not religious and I am in a university. Does that make me evil? Yes? Cool.
Actually, my moral compass is solid and I think I'm a pretty friendly and respectful guy even if we may disagree.
Here's what I would be interested in reading because your guys banter and ignoring of others just to get your own point across has become extremely boring:
Christians of this board, make a compelling argument that Christianity is correct without using the bible as a source. Because if the bible makes you correct then why is the Koran incorrect? (Besides the appalling nature of some of the savage things the Koran teaches)
And before I get labeled as a libtard let's be clear that my vote consistently goes to the right.
I found this on the net which dealt with logic that I thought was interesting:
https://carm.org/logic-apologetics
This is one that I knew I was doing but didn't know how to avoid it. I have never studied the bible to debate it, I just accept it. All my arguments would come from the bible.
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I will take my hope and faith over what you just listed. Knowledge does not always translate into wisdom. What do you mean as we get more intelligent we'll get there? The technology is great but the nature of man has not evolved through knowledge. People today are excatly like they were in bible times but with cell phones and lap taps.
Ummmm.... Not quite. For one we understand the Earth isn't 6,000 years old.
Ancient man didn't understand why the sun disappeared every night, so they used religion to explain it.
Our "modern" religions are just a step up.
We eventually learned why the sun disappears, what causes a strong harvest, etc, so we shunned and laughed at these ancient religions.
Modern man is now getting that same type of grasp on much more complex issues (evolution, creation of the earth, the universe, etc) and we will take the same path with these modern religions.
Someone today won't worship a Norse god because he has a basic understanding of the world. What will happen as our understanding grows?
Ummmm.... Not quite. For one we understand the Earth isn't 6,000 years old.
Ancient man didn't understand why the sun disappeared every night, so they used religion to explain it.
Our "modern" religions are just a step up.
We eventually learned why the sun disappears, what causes a strong harvest, etc, so we shunned and laughed at these ancient religions.
Modern man is now getting that same type of grasp on much more complex issues (evolution, creation of the earth, the universe, etc) and we will take the same path with these modern religions.
Someone today won't worship a Norse god because he has a basic understanding of the world. What will happen as our understanding grows?
The bottom line for me is this: If I am right I have lived the best life possible and I go on to be with the Lord either at death or when He returns. I would not change a thing.
If I am wrong I still have lived the best life possible and I would not change a thing.
Either way I win.
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Ummmm.... Not quite. For one we understand the Earth isn't 6,000 years old.
Ancient man didn't understand why the sun disappeared every night, so they used religion to explain it.
Our "modern" religions are just a step up.
We eventually learned why the sun disappears, what causes a strong harvest, etc, so we shunned and laughed at these ancient religions.
Modern man is now getting that same type of grasp on much more complex issues (evolution, creation of the earth, the universe, etc) and we will take the same path with these modern religions.
Someone today won't worship a Norse god because he has a basic understanding of the world. What will happen as our understanding grows?
The bottom line for me is this: If I am right I have lived the best life possible and I go on to be with the Lord either at death or when He returns. I would not change a thing.
If I am wrong I still have lived the best life possible and I would not change a thing.
Either way I win.
The bottom line for me is this: If I am right I have lived the best life possible and I go on to be with the Lord either at death or when He returns. I would not change a thing.
If I am wrong I still have lived the best life possible and I would not change a thing.
Either way I win.
Investing into nonsense my whole life would make me a little upset in hindsight if I was wrong. But that is only me.
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Ummmm.... Not quite. For one we understand the Earth isn't 6,000 years old.
Ancient man didn't understand why the sun disappeared every night, so they used religion to explain it.
Our "modern" religions are just a step up.
We eventually learned why the sun disappears, what causes a strong harvest, etc, so we shunned and laughed at these ancient religions.
Modern man is now getting that same type of grasp on much more complex issues (evolution, creation of the earth, the universe, etc) and we will take the same path with these modern religions.
Someone today won't worship a Norse god because he has a basic understanding of the world. What will happen as our understanding grows?
The bottom line for me is this: If I am right I have lived the best life possible and I go on to be with the Lord either at death or when He returns. I would not change a thing.
If I am wrong I still have lived the best life possible and I would not change a thing.
Either way I win.
The bottom line for me is this: If I am right I have lived the best life possible and I go on to be with the Lord either at death or when He returns. I would not change a thing.
If I am wrong I still have lived the best life possible and I would not change a thing.
Either way I win.
That's great, and I hope you are happy either way, and I'm sure you will be. Personally, I'm sure that as long as someone leads a good life, a loving, just god would accept them either way and you'll end up in the same situation. If any god is not loving or just, I wouldn't be too happy about worshipping it.
But all that's irrelevant, people can believe what they want to believe. Just, leave anything that requires faith at the door when dealing with things that affect everyone who doesn't share that faith.
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What they said
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The bottom line for me is this: If I am right I have lived the best life possible and I go on to be with the Lord either at death or when He returns. I would not change a thing.
If I am wrong I still have lived the best life possible and I would not change a thing.
Either way I win.
Investing into nonsense my whole life would make me a little upset in hindsight if I was wrong. But that is only me.
Investing into nonsense my whole life would make me a little upset in hindsight if I was wrong. But that is only me.
I have had a few miracles happen along the way. Let alone the lifestyle I got away from probably would have done me in long before now. The bible is full of wisdom I have used and it has always worked in daily life. I have seen prayer and faith in that old book change things. I have no doubt about it.
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The bottom line for me is this: If I am right I have lived the best life possible and I go on to be with the Lord either at death or when He returns. I would not change a thing.
If I am wrong I still have lived the best life possible and I would not change a thing.
Either way I win.
That's great, and I hope you are happy either way, and I'm sure you will be. Personally, I'm sure that as long as someone leads a good life, a loving, just god would accept them either way and you'll end up in the same situation. If any god is not loving or just, I wouldn't be too happy about worshipping it.
But all that's irrelevant, people can believe what they want to believe. Just, leave anything that requires faith at the door when dealing with things that affect everyone who doesn't share that faith.
That's great, and I hope you are happy either way, and I'm sure you will be. Personally, I'm sure that as long as someone leads a good life, a loving, just god would accept them either way and you'll end up in the same situation. If any god is not loving or just, I wouldn't be too happy about worshipping it.
But all that's irrelevant, people can believe what they want to believe. Just, leave anything that requires faith at the door when dealing with things that affect everyone who doesn't share that faith.
God is loving and just. That is why He sent His Son. Christians are called to share their faith. That is all I am doing. I know many Christians today who are grateful someone once reached out to them with the gospel (good news)
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That's great, and I hope you are happy either way, and I'm sure you will be. Personally, I'm sure that as long as someone leads a good life, a loving, just god would accept them either way and you'll end up in the same situation. If any god is not loving or just, I wouldn't be too happy about worshipping it.
But all that's irrelevant, people can believe what they want to believe. Just, leave anything that requires faith at the door when dealing with things that affect everyone who doesn't share that faith.
God is loving and just. That is why He sent His Son. Christians are called to share their faith. That is all I am doing. I know many Christians today who are grateful someone once reached out to them with the gospel (good news)
God is loving and just. That is why He sent His Son.
Then believing or not believing is irrelevant as long as we're good people?
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God is loving and just. That is why He sent His Son.
Then believing or not believing is irrelevant as long as we're good people?
Then believing or not believing is irrelevant as long as we're good people?
Jesus said you must be born again. There is only one way to be born again, Romans 10:9,10. I won't type the scripture as it won't hurt you to look it up.

It does not matter what your church denomination is what matters is are you born again?
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Then believing or not believing is irrelevant as long as we're good people?
Jesus said you must be born again. There is only one way to be born again, Romans 10:9,10. I won't type the scripture as it won't hurt you to look it up.

It does not matter what your church denomination is what matters is are you born again?
Jesus said you must be born again. There is only one way to be born again, Romans 10:9,10. I won't type the scripture as it won't hurt you to look it up.

It does not matter what your church denomination is what matters is are you born again?
So, it's compulsory to believe in god and jesus to enter heaven? Because, there are presumably people still alive today who have no concept of any abrahamic religion. A thousand years ago, there were probably many many more who didn't. Would a loving and just god create people, then give them no chance to enter heaven?
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Jesus said you must be born again. There is only one way to be born again, Romans 10:9,10. I won't type the scripture as it won't hurt you to look it up.

It does not matter what your church denomination is what matters is are you born again?
So, it's compulsory to believe in god and jesus to enter heaven? Because, there are presumably people still alive today who have no concept of any abrahamic religion. A thousand years ago, there were probably many many more who didn't. Would a loving and just god create people, then give them no chance to enter heaven?
So, it's compulsory to believe in god and jesus to enter heaven? Because, there are presumably people still alive today who have no concept of any abrahamic religion. A thousand years ago, there were probably many many more who didn't. Would a loving and just god create people, then give them no chance to enter heaven?
This is a good article that deals with that:
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