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Cleveland Policeman found not guilty on all charges related to 2 deaths

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  • So the Cleveland cops fired 137 shots at two unarmed suspects?

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Didn't take long for the political vultures to swoop in.

    It never does

  • So the Cleveland cops fired 137 shots at two unarmed suspects?

    @mld-woody said:

    So the Cleveland cops fired 137 shots at two unarmed suspects?

    Who were fleeing through residential areas in excess of 100 mph. That is the key thing.

  • @mld-woody said:

    So the Cleveland cops fired 137 shots at two unarmed suspects?

    Who were fleeing through residential areas in excess of 100 mph. That is the key thing.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Who were fleeing through residential areas in excess of 100 mph. That is the key thing.

    I read something that said the cop in question stood on the hood and fired like 15 more shots into the windshield.... Shit.

    I understand the use of deadly force to prevent anyone else from getting hurt, but 137 shots seems excessive and inefficient.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Who were fleeing through residential areas in excess of 100 mph. That is the key thing.

    I read something that said the cop in question stood on the hood and fired like 15 more shots into the windshield.... Shit.

    I understand the use of deadly force to prevent anyone else from getting hurt, but 137 shots seems excessive and inefficient.

    @mld-woody said:

    I read something that said the cop in question stood on the hood and fired like 15 more shots into the windshield.... Shit.

    I understand the use of deadly force to prevent anyone else from getting hurt, but 137 shots seems excessive and inefficient.

    Poorly trained and in a panic for sure.

  • case makes no sense to me. Supposedly their car backfired and that's why the chase started because the cops thought they shot out of their car or something? Still haven't heard why these two got in the chase to begin with when they had no drugs on em, no warrants and weren't armed. I don't understand. I also don't understand why the police who had the car surrounded at the end didn't stand off. What prompted the barrage of bullets at the end? Just because of the chase? That's not legal. Plenty of chases end with the perps being pulled out of the car.

    In any case, good on Cleveland for not going apeshit.

  • case makes no sense to me. Supposedly their car backfired and that's why the chase started because the cops thought they shot out of their car or something? Still haven't heard why these two got in the chase to begin with when they had no drugs on em, no warrants and weren't armed. I don't understand. I also don't understand why the police who had the car surrounded at the end didn't stand off. What prompted the barrage of bullets at the end? Just because of the chase? That's not legal. Plenty of chases end with the perps being pulled out of the car.

    In any case, good on Cleveland for not going apeshit.

    @clevfan4life said:

    In any case, good on Cleveland for not going apeshit.

    We owe Lebron

  • case makes no sense to me. Supposedly their car backfired and that's why the chase started because the cops thought they shot out of their car or something? Still haven't heard why these two got in the chase to begin with when they had no drugs on em, no warrants and weren't armed. I don't understand. I also don't understand why the police who had the car surrounded at the end didn't stand off. What prompted the barrage of bullets at the end? Just because of the chase? That's not legal. Plenty of chases end with the perps being pulled out of the car.

    In any case, good on Cleveland for not going apeshit.

    @clevfan4life said:

    case makes no sense to me. Supposedly their car backfired and that's why the chase started because the cops thought they shot out of their car or something? Still haven't heard why these two got in the chase to begin with when they had no drugs on em, no warrants and weren't armed. I don't understand. I also don't understand why the police who had the car surrounded at the end didn't stand off. What prompted the barrage of bullets at the end? Just because of the chase? That's not legal. Plenty of chases end with the perps being pulled out of the car.

    In any case, good on Cleveland for not going apeshit.

    They were on parole from previous offenses. They likely panicked and chose to turn it into a high speed chase.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    case makes no sense to me. Supposedly their car backfired and that's why the chase started because the cops thought they shot out of their car or something? Still haven't heard why these two got in the chase to begin with when they had no drugs on em, no warrants and weren't armed. I don't understand. I also don't understand why the police who had the car surrounded at the end didn't stand off. What prompted the barrage of bullets at the end? Just because of the chase? That's not legal. Plenty of chases end with the perps being pulled out of the car.

    In any case, good on Cleveland for not going apeshit.

    They were on parole from previous offenses. They likely panicked and chose to turn it into a high speed chase.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    They were on parole from previous offenses. They likely panicked and chose to turn it into a high speed chase.

    so where they somewhere they shouldn't have been per their parole regulations?

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    They were on parole from previous offenses. They likely panicked and chose to turn it into a high speed chase.

    so where they somewhere they shouldn't have been per their parole regulations?

    @clevfan4life said:

    so where they somewhere they shouldn't have been per their parole regulations?

    No clue. Felons with long criminal histories have a demonstrated lack of good decision making. They could have panicked for no reason.

  • This actually made the news over here, believe it or not. Hadn't heard about it until then.

    I don't get why the police fired so many shots, including the guy standing on the bonnet firing shots through the windscreen - presumably, had they a gun, the policeman would have been in some danger, unless the suspects were already dead or incapacitated, in which case there's no need.

    I don't get why the suspects decided that it was a good idea to try to flee when the police tried to pull them over, thought they could outrun the police in a presumably shitty car (if it's backfiring) - does Cleveland PD have a support helicopter for these things? I know we do over here but we're a lot less spread out, so it requires fewer to cover the same amount of people. You just can't outrun those things.