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  • Most of them aren't as smart as Quaddafi was. At least he understood "cool your jets, asshole bombing.".

    Other than that, U.S. 'Leadership" doesn't want to project a will to win. I don't want the U.S. to be the worlds police, and I have difficulty with a lot of our actions being just. It would be easier to take if we would fight to win, instead to me it seems like long wars to keep military contractors in business who then donate to politicians who then award contracts to military contractors.

    I'd rather put those troops in the U.S. - Mexican border and sort that shit out then have people die piecemeal in Afghanistan - shot on purpose by our "allies" in the region.

  • No they didn't need bombed. Unless of course you by the theory that everything that happens on the planet is the business of the U.S. Which it isn't. And that thinking is why we're almost broke country now.

    @westside-steve said:

    Well, they are the ones that need bombing the most.
    Ya wanna bomb Iceland?

    WSS

    @clevfan4life said:

    No they didn't need bombed. Unless of course you by the theory that everything that happens on the planet is the business of the U.S. Which it isn't.

    ☆sure it is☆

    And that thinking is why we're almost broke country now.

    ☆actually more the opposite☆

    WSS
  • You can make the argument we should have not gone to war in Iraq but after we made that decision then we should see it through. We owe that much to those who fought and secured Iraq before Obama pulled all the troops out. Iraq veterans see all these Iraqi cities fall to ISIS which they had fought already and won. If keeping a residual force there would have prevented what we see today it would have been worth it.

    Biden was calling Iraq one of Obama's greatest achievements not that long ago. Once Obama pulled the troops out and the country fell apart it was back to blaming Bush and it was all Bush's fault again.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    No they didn't need bombed. Unless of course you by the theory that everything that happens on the planet is the business of the U.S. Which it isn't.

    ☆sure it is☆

    And that thinking is why we're almost broke country now.

    ☆actually more the opposite☆

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    WSS

    nope sorry it isn't. No matter how hard you close your eyes and click your heels together.

  • You can make the argument we should have not gone to war in Iraq but after we made that decision then we should see it through. We owe that much to those who fought and secured Iraq before Obama pulled all the troops out. Iraq veterans see all these Iraqi cities fall to ISIS which they had fought already and won. If keeping a residual force there would have prevented what we see today it would have been worth it.

    Biden was calling Iraq one of Obama's greatest achievements not that long ago. Once Obama pulled the troops out and the country fell apart it was back to blaming Bush and it was all Bush's fault again.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    You can make the argument we should have not gone to war in Iraq but after we made that decision then we should see it through. We owe that much to those who fought and secured Iraq before Obama pulled all the troops out. Iraq veterans see all these Iraqi cities fall to ISIS which they had fought already and won. If keeping a residual force there would have prevented what we see today it would have been worth it.

    Biden was calling Iraq one of Obama's greatest achievements not that long ago. Once Obama pulled the troops out and the country fell apart it was back to blaming Bush and it was all Bush's fault again.

    because they're idiots, we get it. You knew that was comig though. In any case, we can't have multiple administrations beholden to a previous admins mistake. It's a religious civil war that's been going on since before we were a country...almost 10 times longer than we've been a country, you get that right? You intrinsically understand this right? So the argument you're making is to throw more lives and more money at a mistake? That's the definition of stupidity.

    You can talk all you want about previous lives, but what about the future lives we'd be throwing away there? Do you see the circuitous perpetuity of your standpoint? So we keep soldiers there for another 10 years and a thousand more die. In 10 years people are calling for withdrawal...well hold on a second what about the lives lost the last 10 years? It would literally never end.

  • @westside-steve said:

    WSS

    nope sorry it isn't. No matter how hard you close your eyes and click your heels together.

    @clevfan4life said:

    nope sorry it isn't. No matter how hard you close your eyes and click your heels together.

    Assuming you are referring to Iraq had Saddam Hussein gone ahead and started trading the world's second-largest oil reserve in Euros it would have fucked us royally. You could make a better case for allowing him to invade Kuwait.

    WSS

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    You can make the argument we should have not gone to war in Iraq but after we made that decision then we should see it through. We owe that much to those who fought and secured Iraq before Obama pulled all the troops out. Iraq veterans see all these Iraqi cities fall to ISIS which they had fought already and won. If keeping a residual force there would have prevented what we see today it would have been worth it.

    Biden was calling Iraq one of Obama's greatest achievements not that long ago. Once Obama pulled the troops out and the country fell apart it was back to blaming Bush and it was all Bush's fault again.

    because they're idiots, we get it. You knew that was comig though. In any case, we can't have multiple administrations beholden to a previous admins mistake. It's a religious civil war that's been going on since before we were a country...almost 10 times longer than we've been a country, you get that right? You intrinsically understand this right? So the argument you're making is to throw more lives and more money at a mistake? That's the definition of stupidity.

    You can talk all you want about previous lives, but what about the future lives we'd be throwing away there? Do you see the circuitous perpetuity of your standpoint? So we keep soldiers there for another 10 years and a thousand more die. In 10 years people are calling for withdrawal...well hold on a second what about the lives lost the last 10 years? It would literally never end.

    @clevfan4life said:

    because they're idiots, we get it. You knew that was comig though. In any case, we can't have multiple administrations beholden to a previous admins mistake. It's a religious civil war that's been going on since before we were a country...almost 10 times longer than we've been a country, you get that right? You intrinsically understand this right? So the argument you're making is to throw more lives and more money at a mistake? That's the definition of stupidity.

    You can talk all you want about previous lives, but what about the future lives we'd be throwing away there? Do you see the circuitous perpetuity of your standpoint? So we keep soldiers there for another 10 years and a thousand more die. In 10 years people are calling for withdrawal...well hold on a second what about the lives lost the last 10 years? It would literally never end.

    Thank God most people don't think like your sorry ass.

  • I think we should go right back over there. It shouldn't take too long for them to stop being Retarded in the Middle East. We will just have to wait out the end of Islam. No American soldiers will die during that wait.

  • @mohican said:

    Merkel has complained about US electronic spying on Germany....

    but keeping troops in Iraq or Afghanistan is pointless and a waste of lives.

    both parties are too comfortable with bombing brown people as the chief foreign policy statement.

    1) well we spy on everyone technically. We still have bases there though for the Rooskies.

    2) Yes bombing brown people is a fav past time of ours.

    @clevfan4life said:

    2) Yes bombing brown people is a fav past time of ours.

    Pastime is one word. My god you're such an illiterate.

  • I think we should go right back over there. It shouldn't take too long for them to stop being Retarded in the Middle East. We will just have to wait out the end of Islam. No American soldiers will die during that wait.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I think we should go right back over there. It shouldn't take too long for them to stop being Retarded in the Middle East. We will just have to wait out the end of Islam. No American soldiers will die during that wait.

    Being Retarded? Wtf does that mean? American military go where called, and we do kick ass. You don't give up like you pussies want to, that is the attitude of you punks.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    I think we should go right back over there. It shouldn't take too long for them to stop being Retarded in the Middle East. We will just have to wait out the end of Islam. No American soldiers will die during that wait.

    Being Retarded? Wtf does that mean? American military go where called, and we do kick ass. You don't give up like you pussies want to, that is the attitude of you punks.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Being Retarded? Wtf does that mean? American military go where called, and we do kick ass. You don't give up like you pussies want to, that is the attitude of you punks.

    No I am just saying that we should stay there because it shouldn't take long for the Middle East to stop being Retarded. A year tops and they will all decide to stop chopping each other's heads off for Allah.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    nope sorry it isn't. No matter how hard you close your eyes and click your heels together.

    Assuming you are referring to Iraq had Saddam Hussein gone ahead and started trading the world's second-largest oil reserve in Euros it would have fucked us royally. You could make a better case for allowing him to invade Kuwait.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Assuming you are referring to Iraq had Saddam Hussein gone ahead and started trading the world's second-largest oil reserve in Euros it would have fucked us royally.

    Now we're getting somewhere. Ok so 1) It's not ok for another country to buy and sell "THEIR OWN" goods and services in whatever currency they choose? AAANNNNDDD 2) Do you understand WHY we might have gotten fucked if Hussein had traded in Euro's? Do you understand what a shit money creation scam we're running that we can't allow foreign countries to get off the dollar? Keep working down this line. It would have helped if you had paid attention to Ron Paul the last couple years, this was exactly the kind of shit he was talking about.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    I think we should go right back over there. It shouldn't take too long for them to stop being Retarded in the Middle East. We will just have to wait out the end of Islam. No American soldiers will die during that wait.

    Being Retarded? Wtf does that mean? American military go where called, and we do kick ass. You don't give up like you pussies want to, that is the attitude of you punks.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Being Retarded? Wtf does that mean? American military go where called, and we do kick ass. You don't give up like you pussies want to, that is the attitude of you punks.

    The blatant evidence infront of you nose that empirically refutes your assertion is blatant. You're just an old moron who can't understand that just going somewhere and kicking someone's ass doesn't cut it anymore. It comes back now, and stronger than before. This isn't my opinion, it's factual evidence infront of all of us. You're just a minion of the devil at this point if you think just one more war will solve everything. One more invasion, more death more death. Do you chant that before bed?

  • @clevfan4life said:

    because they're idiots, we get it. You knew that was comig though. In any case, we can't have multiple administrations beholden to a previous admins mistake. It's a religious civil war that's been going on since before we were a country...almost 10 times longer than we've been a country, you get that right? You intrinsically understand this right? So the argument you're making is to throw more lives and more money at a mistake? That's the definition of stupidity.

    You can talk all you want about previous lives, but what about the future lives we'd be throwing away there? Do you see the circuitous perpetuity of your standpoint? So we keep soldiers there for another 10 years and a thousand more die. In 10 years people are calling for withdrawal...well hold on a second what about the lives lost the last 10 years? It would literally never end.

    Thank God most people don't think like your sorry ass.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Thank God most people don't think like your sorry ass.

    If they did the world would be an infinitely better place. Unfortunately it's populated by primates like yourself.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Being Retarded? Wtf does that mean? American military go where called, and we do kick ass. You don't give up like you pussies want to, that is the attitude of you punks.

    No I am just saying that we should stay there because it shouldn't take long for the Middle East to stop being Retarded. A year tops and they will all decide to stop chopping each other's heads off for Allah.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    No I am just saying that we should stay there because it shouldn't take long for the Middle East to stop being Retarded. A year tops and they will all decide to stop chopping each other's heads off for Allah.

    right, the end is just around the corner. Another 300 or so bombs should fix it no question.

  • Here is my problem with all this.......

    We go to war, and then we leave.....

    Why didn't we just take the land and claim it for the USA?

    That worked when we took "THIS" land from the people that had it

    Why do we have to give it back to the fools that can't control it to start with?

  • Here is my problem with all this.......

    We go to war, and then we leave.....

    Why didn't we just take the land and claim it for the USA?

    That worked when we took "THIS" land from the people that had it

    Why do we have to give it back to the fools that can't control it to start with?

    @browns149 said:

    Here is my problem with all this.......

    We go to war, and then we leave.....

    Why didn't we just take the land and claim it for the USA?

    That worked when we took "THIS" land from the people that had it

    Why do we have to give it back to the fools that can't control it to start with?

    See the land of Israel for why that wouldn't work. Who would live there? You'd be living inside a concrete box. We'd have to kick every Arab out of our new land. Would you sign up to go live there? Then of course there's that pesky global thing where if we did that, basically the whole global community would start to shift away from us. Our current ridiculously mismanaged monetary structure would crumble if the dollar wasn't the worlds reserve. Being the reserve has allowed us to play monopoly. We wouldn't have a lot of the goodies we do now if it weren't for that. We leveraged the long term health of our economy for short term global dominance. The hope is that to the world, we become too big to fail. That and we promised to hold everyone's gold reserves and now won't give it back, true story read up on it.

  • @browns149 said:

    Here is my problem with all this.......

    We go to war, and then we leave.....

    Why didn't we just take the land and claim it for the USA?

    That worked when we took "THIS" land from the people that had it

    Why do we have to give it back to the fools that can't control it to start with?

    See the land of Israel for why that wouldn't work. Who would live there? You'd be living inside a concrete box. We'd have to kick every Arab out of our new land. Would you sign up to go live there? Then of course there's that pesky global thing where if we did that, basically the whole global community would start to shift away from us. Our current ridiculously mismanaged monetary structure would crumble if the dollar wasn't the worlds reserve. Being the reserve has allowed us to play monopoly. We wouldn't have a lot of the goodies we do now if it weren't for that. We leveraged the long term health of our economy for short term global dominance. The hope is that to the world, we become too big to fail. That and we promised to hold everyone's gold reserves and now won't give it back, true story read up on it.

    @clevfan4life said:

    See the land of Israel for why that wouldn't work. Who would live there? You'd be living inside a concrete box. We'd have to kick every Arab out of our new land. Would you sign up to go live there? Then of course there's that pesky global thing where if we did that, basically the whole global community would start to shift away from us. Our current ridiculously mismanaged monetary structure would crumble if the dollar wasn't the worlds reserve. Being the reserve has allowed us to play monopoly. We wouldn't have a lot of the goodies we do now if it weren't for that. We leveraged the long term health of our economy for short term global dominance. The hope is that to the world, we become too big to fail. That and we promised to hold everyone's gold reserves and now won't give it back, true story read up on it.

    I didn't say "WE" had to live there.

    But, "WE" could stop anyone else from living there

  • @clevfan4life said:

    See the land of Israel for why that wouldn't work. Who would live there? You'd be living inside a concrete box. We'd have to kick every Arab out of our new land. Would you sign up to go live there? Then of course there's that pesky global thing where if we did that, basically the whole global community would start to shift away from us. Our current ridiculously mismanaged monetary structure would crumble if the dollar wasn't the worlds reserve. Being the reserve has allowed us to play monopoly. We wouldn't have a lot of the goodies we do now if it weren't for that. We leveraged the long term health of our economy for short term global dominance. The hope is that to the world, we become too big to fail. That and we promised to hold everyone's gold reserves and now won't give it back, true story read up on it.

    I didn't say "WE" had to live there.

    But, "WE" could stop anyone else from living there

    @browns149 said:

    I didn't say "WE" had to live there.

    But, "WE" could stop anyone else from living there

    presiding over an uninhabited wasteland eh? Actually, we could have filmed the mad max trilogy there quite righteously.

  • @browns149 said:

    I didn't say "WE" had to live there.

    But, "WE" could stop anyone else from living there

    presiding over an uninhabited wasteland eh? Actually, we could have filmed the mad max trilogy there quite righteously.

    @clevfan4life said:

    presiding over an uninhabited wasteland eh? Actually, we could have filmed the mad max trilogy there quite righteously.

    East Cleveland?