Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Growing up, dedication, work ethic, desire to be the best they can be...
and all that talent - looks like they will be ready to roll 2015
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_browns_justin_gilber_7.html
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/05/johnny_manziel_getting_help_fr.html
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Let's hope so.
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All my moneys on Gilbert....expecting(hoping for) great things from him.......
Mud,
I can't explain it, but I'm not sure about Gilbert & I'm thinking Manziel will do ok.
Either way, time will tell. I'm hoping they BOTH do well.
Mike
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Either way, time will tell. I'm hoping they BOTH do well.
Mike
Im with you there....100%...
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I'd live with 50%
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I'd live with 50%
Pathetic.
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Pragmatic...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Been watching all the OTA footage I can find and I've yet to see JM smile yet.
Serious, nose-to-the-grindstone dedication or simply no joy?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Been watching all the OTA footage I can find and I've yet to see JM smile yet.
Serious, nose-to-the-grindstone dedication or simply no joy?
Been watching all the OTA footage I can find and I've yet to see JM smile yet.
Serious, nose-to-the-grindstone dedication or simply no joy?
Yep...the early whispers are that he's struggling some(and really pressing)......and that McCown looks like the clear leader so far, as he should be......
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hey....even if it's 50%, that would mean we still hit on 5 out of 6 picks and that is WAY above average.....
so, while Id like every player to be great, I do understand that it's not a realistic expectation for any team or GM.....
Pragmatic = realistic.....in case anyone is wondering......
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Whispers from whom might I ask?
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Whispers from whom might I ask?
Whispers from whom might I ask?
Mostly local media who are attending the ota's....
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Well, I guess so. Gilbert will probably still have a bad attitude.
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Way to early to make judgements yet. Lets see what happens in July and August. I hope they both light it up.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Way to early to make judgements yet. Lets see what happens in July and August. I hope they both light it up.
Way to early to make judgements yet. Lets see what happens in July and August. I hope they both light it up.
Yep, I hope so too....I want them ALL to do well.....not really judging, just noting his current progress and the observations of some who are watching....(it's pretty much what we'll all be doing until August)
so if he looked great, would it have been ok to say "wow, he looks great"...???....
or should we just not talk about him till something good happens.....???
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Way to early to make judgements yet. Lets see what happens in July and August. I hope they both light it up.
Yep, I hope so too....I want them ALL to do well.....not really judging, just noting his current progress and the observations of some who are watching....(it's pretty much what we'll all be doing until August)
so if he looked great, would it have been ok to say "wow, he looks great"...???....
or should we just not talk about him till something good happens.....???
Yep, I hope so too....I want them ALL to do well.....not really judging, just noting his current progress and the observations of some who are watching....(it's pretty much what we'll all be doing until August)
so if he looked great, would it have been ok to say "wow, he looks great"...???....
or should we just not talk about him till something good happens.....???
It's kinda nice l think.
The media is trying. I've heard "he looked great on this pass" to "he got pick 6'd on this pass", but no one seems to really care.
But the general vibe l'm getting from the fan base is more or less "whatever..."
Perfect.
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