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    @the-gipper said:

    Suede and Pulp

    Not too familiar with them......give us an example of one of their "anthems".

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @londonbrown said:

    They are like 80s bands. I don't think they made any waves at all over here.

    (and that pulp song is...to me...very un-anthem like).

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      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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      Common people - to people of a certain age, it's a proper anthem. That, along with Ash's Oh Yeah, Blur's Country House, and Oasis' Definitely Maybe album were basically the soundtrack to the 90s for people who didn't find the spice girls all that great.

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        @the-gipper said:

        The New Zealand All Blacks will win the rugby world cup......and my wish would be that Liverpool would win the FA cup

        Exactly.

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        @gftchris said:

        Exactly.

        Are you saying "exactly....those are the right answers"....or "exactly...see, you have no clue"?

        I do wish that the Rugby WC would get the same attention as the FIFA WC......hopefully the organization that runs Rugby isn't as corrupt.

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          Common people - to people of a certain age, it's a proper anthem. That, along with Ash's Oh Yeah, Blur's Country House, and Oasis' Definitely Maybe album were basically the soundtrack to the 90s for people who didn't find the spice girls all that great.

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          @gftchris said:

          Common people - to people of a certain age, it's a proper anthem. That, along with Ash's Oh Yeah, Blur's Country House, and Oasis' Definitely Maybe album were basically the soundtrack to the 90s for people who didn't find the spice girls all that great.

          Well, either one of two things....or both apply here: A. I may be an old fogey and just don't know those songs, or B. Those were not major hits here in the US. Fair enough on either account.

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            @gftchris said:

            Exactly.

            Are you saying "exactly....those are the right answers"....or "exactly...see, you have no clue"?

            I do wish that the Rugby WC would get the same attention as the FIFA WC......hopefully the organization that runs Rugby isn't as corrupt.

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            @the-gipper said:

            Are you saying "exactly....those are the right answers"....or "exactly...see, you have no clue"?

            I do wish that the Rugby WC would get the same attention as the FIFA WC......hopefully the organization that runs Rugby isn't as corrupt.

            Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

            Rugby isn't as corrupt as FIFA, because there's not nearly as much money, because there's not nearly as much of a global appeal. It's in England this year, so I expect high attendances, but it's still somewhat of a colonial sport - the major powerhouses being the 'home nations' - England, Ireland etc. - and the antipodean three of Australia, NZ and South Africa. Outside of that, few countries are interested in a big way, and fewer are any good. France are decent, and Italy have come along a bit, but neither will come close to winning a world cup any time soon.

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              @gftchris said:

              Common people - to people of a certain age, it's a proper anthem. That, along with Ash's Oh Yeah, Blur's Country House, and Oasis' Definitely Maybe album were basically the soundtrack to the 90s for people who didn't find the spice girls all that great.

              Well, either one of two things....or both apply here: A. I may be an old fogey and just don't know those songs, or B. Those were not major hits here in the US. Fair enough on either account.

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              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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              @the-gipper said:

              Well, either one of two things....or both apply here: A. I may be an old fogey and just don't know those songs, or B. Those were not major hits here in the US. Fair enough on either account.

              Absolutely, I doubt all or even most of them made it over. Oasis are the best known globally, so if you've heard of any, it'd be them. Described often, loosely, as 'what the beatles would have sounded like if they started in this era' they were one of the iconic bands in modern UK music history.

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                @the-gipper said:

                Are you saying "exactly....those are the right answers"....or "exactly...see, you have no clue"?

                I do wish that the Rugby WC would get the same attention as the FIFA WC......hopefully the organization that runs Rugby isn't as corrupt.

                Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

                Rugby isn't as corrupt as FIFA, because there's not nearly as much money, because there's not nearly as much of a global appeal. It's in England this year, so I expect high attendances, but it's still somewhat of a colonial sport - the major powerhouses being the 'home nations' - England, Ireland etc. - and the antipodean three of Australia, NZ and South Africa. Outside of that, few countries are interested in a big way, and fewer are any good. France are decent, and Italy have come along a bit, but neither will come close to winning a world cup any time soon.

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @gftchris said:

                Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

                I was referencing general preferences...not specifics to this year. That would be like me saying : I want the Browns to play in the Super Bowl (but with full knowledge e.g. that the Patriots and Seahawks are the two teams playing) Besides...it was my understanding that AV was doing sucky and everyone was bitching about Randy's ownership....how did they all of a sudden get into the finals?

                Rugby isn't as corrupt as FIFA, because there's not nearly as much money, because there's not nearly as much of a global appeal. It's in England this year, so I expect high attendances, but it's still somewhat of a colonial sport - the major powerhouses being the 'home nations' - England, Ireland etc. - and the antipodean three of Australia, NZ and South Africa. Outside of that, few countries are interested in a big way, and fewer are any good. France are decent, and Italy have come along a bit, but neither will come close to winning a world cup any time soon.

                But...am I right or am I right about the All Blacks being the favorite?

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                  @gftchris said:

                  Gip - If I ask you who's going to win the FA cup tomorrow, or who'll win the rugby world cup, you may have about as much of a clue as me about basketball/hockey.

                  Oh great.....now you've done it!

                  Here come 14 pages of google facts about UK sports.......

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                  @mudfly said:

                  Oh great.....now you've done it!

                  Here come 14 pages of google facts about UK sports.......

                  Perhaps....and perhaps you might learn something.

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                    Here is your survey for Friday, May 29. Give your opinions:

                    1. Who wins Cavs or Warriors?

                    2. Who wins the NHL: Rangers/Lightning/Blackhawks/Ducks

                    3. Name the three players who have long been eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame but have not been selected as yet that you think should have gone in?

                    (for this...do not choose near sure things who are not yet eligible, like a Brett Favre....choose some old timer that has been left out)

                    4. What is your favorite TV Game show?

                    5. School's Out for Summer. In my opinion Alice Cooper was about the best in the business when it came to creating "Rock Anthem's" . State which band/act you think was great at creating "Rock Anthem's"....and give a few of your favorites.

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    Here is your survey for Friday, May 29. Give your opinions:

                    1. Who wins Cavs or Warriors?

                    Cavs!!.. It's our year!

                    2. Who wins the NHL: Rangers/Lightning/Blackhawks/Ducks

                    I really dont care.

                    3. Name the three players who have long been eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame but have not been selected as yet that you think should have gone in?

                    (for this...do not choose near sure things who are not yet eligible, like a Brett Favre....choose some old timer that has been left out)

                    Clay Mathews Sr. Steve Largent, Dick Shafwrath

                    4. What is your favorite TV Game show?

                    Jeopardy

                    5. School's Out for Summer. In my opinion Alice Cooper was about the best in the business when it came to creating "Rock Anthem's" . State which band/act you think was great at creating "Rock Anthem's"....and give a few of your favorites.

                    Cleveland Rocks / Mott the Hoople.

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      Are you saying "exactly....those are the right answers"....or "exactly...see, you have no clue"?

                      I do wish that the Rugby WC would get the same attention as the FIFA WC......hopefully the organization that runs Rugby isn't as corrupt.

                      Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

                      Rugby isn't as corrupt as FIFA, because there's not nearly as much money, because there's not nearly as much of a global appeal. It's in England this year, so I expect high attendances, but it's still somewhat of a colonial sport - the major powerhouses being the 'home nations' - England, Ireland etc. - and the antipodean three of Australia, NZ and South Africa. Outside of that, few countries are interested in a big way, and fewer are any good. France are decent, and Italy have come along a bit, but neither will come close to winning a world cup any time soon.

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @gftchris said:

                      Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

                      Rugby isn't as corrupt as FIFA, because there's not nearly as much money, because there's not nearly as much of a global appeal. It's in England this year, so I expect high attendances, but it's still somewhat of a colonial sport - the major powerhouses being the 'home nations' - England, Ireland etc. - and the antipodean three of Australia, NZ and South Africa. Outside of that, few countries are interested in a big way, and fewer are any good. France are decent, and Italy have come along a bit, but neither will come close to winning a world cup any time soon.

                      Well, interesting question. When you have 20 participants and 3 of them are Tonga, Samoa, and Fiji, and another 4 are England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.....I guess it could be a bit provincial (which is the word I think you were going for).

                      But...both Canada and the US are a couple of the participants....so that helps. And if, for example a final game for the title came down between the US and England....it would help the sport a lot in my opinion. I don't know if New Zealand vs. Georgia would help its global image so much.

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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Here is your survey for Friday, May 29. Give your opinions:

                        1. Who wins Cavs or Warriors?

                        Cavs!!.. It's our year!

                        2. Who wins the NHL: Rangers/Lightning/Blackhawks/Ducks

                        I really dont care.

                        3. Name the three players who have long been eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame but have not been selected as yet that you think should have gone in?

                        (for this...do not choose near sure things who are not yet eligible, like a Brett Favre....choose some old timer that has been left out)

                        Clay Mathews Sr. Steve Largent, Dick Shafwrath

                        4. What is your favorite TV Game show?

                        Jeopardy

                        5. School's Out for Summer. In my opinion Alice Cooper was about the best in the business when it came to creating "Rock Anthem's" . State which band/act you think was great at creating "Rock Anthem's"....and give a few of your favorites.

                        Cleveland Rocks / Mott the Hoople.

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @nickers said:

                        @the-gipper said:

                        Here is your survey for Friday, May 29. Give your opinions:

                        1. Who wins Cavs or Warriors?

                        Cavs!!.. It's our year!

                        2. Who wins the NHL: Rangers/Lightning/Blackhawks/Ducks

                        I really dont care.

                        3. Name the three players who have long been eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame but have not been selected as yet that you think should have gone in?

                        (for this...do not choose near sure things who are not yet eligible, like a Brett Favre....choose some old timer that has been left out)

                        Clay Mathews Sr. Steve Largent, Dick Shafwrath

                        Largent is already in......and I love it: "The Wrath of Shaf".

                        4. What is your favorite TV Game show?

                        Jeopardy

                        5. School's Out for Summer. In my opinion Alice Cooper was about the best in the business when it came to creating "Rock Anthem's" . State which band/act you think was great at creating "Rock Anthem's"....and give a few of your favorites.

                        Cleveland Rocks / Mott the Hoople.

                        Absolutely

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          Let's combine answers to a couple of these questions: Who wins the NBA title? and a favorite anthem and say:

                          The Cavaliers are the Champions!!

                          (despite my pessimism)

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                            1. Cavs

                            2. Anyone but the Ducks and their front runner fans

                            3. Clay Matthews

                            4. They all suck

                            5. No clue..

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                              @gftchris said:

                              Common people - to people of a certain age, it's a proper anthem. That, along with Ash's Oh Yeah, Blur's Country House, and Oasis' Definitely Maybe album were basically the soundtrack to the 90s for people who didn't find the spice girls all that great.

                              Well, either one of two things....or both apply here: A. I may be an old fogey and just don't know those songs, or B. Those were not major hits here in the US. Fair enough on either account.

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Well, either one of two things....or both apply here: A. I may be an old fogey and just don't know those songs, or B. Those were not major hits here in the US. Fair enough on either account.

                              What did you think of the songs after listening..?

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                Well, either one of two things....or both apply here: A. I may be an old fogey and just don't know those songs, or B. Those were not major hits here in the US. Fair enough on either account.

                                What did you think of the songs after listening..?

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                                @londonbrown said:

                                What did you think of the songs after listening..?

                                Not bad but nothing that grabbed you by the balls great. I can see why they didn't really register here.

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                                  1. Who wins Cavs or Warriors?



                                  Cleveland.




                                  2. Who wins the NHL: Rangers/Lightning/Blackhawks/Ducks



                                  Tampa.




                                  3. Name the three players who have long been eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame but have not been selected as yet that you think should have gone in?


                                  (for this...do not choose near sure things who are not yet eligible, like a Brett Favre....choose some old timer that has been left out)



                                  Jim Marshall, Alex Karras, Steve Wisniewski



                                  4. What is your favorite TV Game show?



                                  College Madhouse




                                  5. School's Out for Summer. In my opinion Alice Cooper was about the best in the business when it came to creating "Rock Anthem's" . State which band/act you think was great at creating "Rock Anthem's"....and give a few of your favorites.



                                  Queen and AC/DC


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                                    1. Cavs in another sweep!!!!!!!!!

                                    2. Rangers all the way

                                    3. Ken Stabler, Clay Mathews

                                    4. Jeopardy

                                    5. Queen has a few

                                    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Are you saying "exactly....those are the right answers"....or "exactly...see, you have no clue"?

                                      I do wish that the Rugby WC would get the same attention as the FIFA WC......hopefully the organization that runs Rugby isn't as corrupt.

                                      Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

                                      Rugby isn't as corrupt as FIFA, because there's not nearly as much money, because there's not nearly as much of a global appeal. It's in England this year, so I expect high attendances, but it's still somewhat of a colonial sport - the major powerhouses being the 'home nations' - England, Ireland etc. - and the antipodean three of Australia, NZ and South Africa. Outside of that, few countries are interested in a big way, and fewer are any good. France are decent, and Italy have come along a bit, but neither will come close to winning a world cup any time soon.

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                                      @gftchris said:

                                      Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

                                      By the way....what is the purpose of the "FA Cup"? Is that the championship of the Premier League? I thought there was another tournament for that.....if so....like I said, what is the purpose of this cup.?

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                                        @gftchris said:

                                        Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

                                        By the way....what is the purpose of the "FA Cup"? Is that the championship of the Premier League? I thought there was another tournament for that.....if so....like I said, what is the purpose of this cup.?

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                                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        @gftchris said:

                                        Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

                                        By the way....what is the purpose of the "FA Cup"? Is that the championship of the Premier League? I thought there was another tournament for that.....if so....like I said, what is the purpose of this cup.?

                                        The premier league is a 20 team round robin. Everyone plays everyone, home and away, so 38 games per team per season. 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw. The league is then sorted by points, and whoever has the most after 38 games wins. No playoffs, nothing like that. Whoever has been the most consistently good, wins.

                                        The FA cup is a different beast. Bearing in mind the tiered system of soccer, every team that's in the ladder - no matter how lowly - is entered in to the tournament. The higher the team, the later they enter. There's a ton of qualifying, pre-qualifying, before you get to the 'first round proper' which basically means that any even vaguely serious team gets a chance. Theoretically, gftChris United could play Gipper Town in the final. Of course, that doesn't happen, but you could also see Gipper Town playing at home to Liverpool, Man United or Arsenal.

                                        That's 'the magic of the cup' as it's called. On any given day, any given team can, at least in theory, beat any given team, and win. Compare and contrast with the league system, which rewards consistency - you have to come in the top few places in your league to be promoted to the next league, and the next league, until you get to the premier league.

                                        By the way, a neat thing about the FA cup is that the ticket money is shared between both clubs. Meaning, Gipper Town, with 300 supporters and a sheep, playing at Liverpool, get a 50% (ish) share of the however-many-millions in ticket sales, plus probably TV revenue, again split 50/50. See this article for info - Cambridge United played at Man United, and as a result got about £1m. For a club whose revenue is also about £1m, it's huge.

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          @gftchris said:

                                          Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

                                          By the way....what is the purpose of the "FA Cup"? Is that the championship of the Premier League? I thought there was another tournament for that.....if so....like I said, what is the purpose of this cup.?

                                          The premier league is a 20 team round robin. Everyone plays everyone, home and away, so 38 games per team per season. 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw. The league is then sorted by points, and whoever has the most after 38 games wins. No playoffs, nothing like that. Whoever has been the most consistently good, wins.

                                          The FA cup is a different beast. Bearing in mind the tiered system of soccer, every team that's in the ladder - no matter how lowly - is entered in to the tournament. The higher the team, the later they enter. There's a ton of qualifying, pre-qualifying, before you get to the 'first round proper' which basically means that any even vaguely serious team gets a chance. Theoretically, gftChris United could play Gipper Town in the final. Of course, that doesn't happen, but you could also see Gipper Town playing at home to Liverpool, Man United or Arsenal.

                                          That's 'the magic of the cup' as it's called. On any given day, any given team can, at least in theory, beat any given team, and win. Compare and contrast with the league system, which rewards consistency - you have to come in the top few places in your league to be promoted to the next league, and the next league, until you get to the premier league.

                                          By the way, a neat thing about the FA cup is that the ticket money is shared between both clubs. Meaning, Gipper Town, with 300 supporters and a sheep, playing at Liverpool, get a 50% (ish) share of the however-many-millions in ticket sales, plus probably TV revenue, again split 50/50. See this article for info - Cambridge United played at Man United, and as a result got about £1m. For a club whose revenue is also about £1m, it's huge.

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                                          @gftchris said:

                                          The premier league is a 20 team round robin. Everyone plays everyone, home and away, so 38 games per team per season. 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw. The league is then sorted by points, and whoever has the most after 38 games wins. No playoffs, nothing like that. Whoever has been the most consistently good, wins.

                                          The FA cup is a different beast. Bearing in mind the tiered system of soccer, every team that's in the ladder - no matter how lowly - is entered in to the tournament. The higher the team, the later they enter. There's a ton of qualifying, pre-qualifying, before you get to the 'first round proper' which basically means that any even vaguely serious team gets a chance. Theoretically, gftChris United could play Gipper Town in the final. Of course, that doesn't happen, but you could also see Gipper Town playing at home to Liverpool, Man United or Arsenal.

                                          That's 'the magic of the cup' as it's called. On any given day, any given team can, at least in theory, beat any given team, and win. Compare and contrast with the league system, which rewards consistency - you have to come in the top few places in your league to be promoted to the next league, and the next league, until you get to the premier league.

                                          By the way, a neat thing about the FA cup is that the ticket money is shared between both clubs. Meaning, Gipper Town, with 300 supporters and a sheep, playing at Liverpool, get a 50% (ish) share of the however-many-millions in ticket sales, plus probably TV revenue, again split 50/50. See this article for info - Cambridge United played at Man United, and as a result got about £1m. For a club whose revenue is also about £1m, it's huge.

                                          Well, sorry, but it sounds like it is generally just the Premier League"s way of having their cake and eating it too.

                                          It would be like declaring that the team with the best record wins the NFL Champion....and then, oh by the way, we will have this tournament to decide a different championship. Not buying it one second. Its just a money grab from what I can see.

                                          The nearest thing it sounds to what we have is the basketball tournament.....though in that case no "regular season champion" is declared except in each conference.

                                          As for it being so egalitarian, well, I guess the money going to the small team's is fine but....when was the last time that someone other than the top Premier teams won this FA Cup?

                                          It is sounding like FIFA: they give money to all the small countries....in exchange for votes.

                                          Again, the closest thing to this that we have is when the big College football schools schedule a lower level cupcake to come be a sacrificial lamb. (even more acute in the SEC)

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