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  • @the-gipper said:

    Are you saying "exactly....those are the right answers"....or "exactly...see, you have no clue"?

    I do wish that the Rugby WC would get the same attention as the FIFA WC......hopefully the organization that runs Rugby isn't as corrupt.

    Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

    Rugby isn't as corrupt as FIFA, because there's not nearly as much money, because there's not nearly as much of a global appeal. It's in England this year, so I expect high attendances, but it's still somewhat of a colonial sport - the major powerhouses being the 'home nations' - England, Ireland etc. - and the antipodean three of Australia, NZ and South Africa. Outside of that, few countries are interested in a big way, and fewer are any good. France are decent, and Italy have come along a bit, but neither will come close to winning a world cup any time soon.

    @gftchris said:

    Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

    I was referencing general preferences...not specifics to this year. That would be like me saying : I want the Browns to play in the Super Bowl (but with full knowledge e.g. that the Patriots and Seahawks are the two teams playing) Besides...it was my understanding that AV was doing sucky and everyone was bitching about Randy's ownership....how did they all of a sudden get into the finals?

    Rugby isn't as corrupt as FIFA, because there's not nearly as much money, because there's not nearly as much of a global appeal. It's in England this year, so I expect high attendances, but it's still somewhat of a colonial sport - the major powerhouses being the 'home nations' - England, Ireland etc. - and the antipodean three of Australia, NZ and South Africa. Outside of that, few countries are interested in a big way, and fewer are any good. France are decent, and Italy have come along a bit, but neither will come close to winning a world cup any time soon.

    But...am I right or am I right about the All Blacks being the favorite?

  • @gftchris said:

    Gip - If I ask you who's going to win the FA cup tomorrow, or who'll win the rugby world cup, you may have about as much of a clue as me about basketball/hockey.

    Oh great.....now you've done it!

    Here come 14 pages of google facts about UK sports.......

    @mudfly said:

    Oh great.....now you've done it!

    Here come 14 pages of google facts about UK sports.......

    Perhaps....and perhaps you might learn something.

  • Here is your survey for Friday, May 29. Give your opinions:

    1. Who wins Cavs or Warriors?

    2. Who wins the NHL: Rangers/Lightning/Blackhawks/Ducks

    3. Name the three players who have long been eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame but have not been selected as yet that you think should have gone in?

    (for this...do not choose near sure things who are not yet eligible, like a Brett Favre....choose some old timer that has been left out)

    4. What is your favorite TV Game show?

    5. School's Out for Summer. In my opinion Alice Cooper was about the best in the business when it came to creating "Rock Anthem's" . State which band/act you think was great at creating "Rock Anthem's"....and give a few of your favorites.

    @the-gipper said:

    Here is your survey for Friday, May 29. Give your opinions:

    1. Who wins Cavs or Warriors?

    Cavs!!.. It's our year!

    2. Who wins the NHL: Rangers/Lightning/Blackhawks/Ducks

    I really dont care.

    3. Name the three players who have long been eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame but have not been selected as yet that you think should have gone in?

    (for this...do not choose near sure things who are not yet eligible, like a Brett Favre....choose some old timer that has been left out)

    Clay Mathews Sr. Steve Largent, Dick Shafwrath

    4. What is your favorite TV Game show?

    Jeopardy

    5. School's Out for Summer. In my opinion Alice Cooper was about the best in the business when it came to creating "Rock Anthem's" . State which band/act you think was great at creating "Rock Anthem's"....and give a few of your favorites.

    Cleveland Rocks / Mott the Hoople.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Are you saying "exactly....those are the right answers"....or "exactly...see, you have no clue"?

    I do wish that the Rugby WC would get the same attention as the FIFA WC......hopefully the organization that runs Rugby isn't as corrupt.

    Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

    Rugby isn't as corrupt as FIFA, because there's not nearly as much money, because there's not nearly as much of a global appeal. It's in England this year, so I expect high attendances, but it's still somewhat of a colonial sport - the major powerhouses being the 'home nations' - England, Ireland etc. - and the antipodean three of Australia, NZ and South Africa. Outside of that, few countries are interested in a big way, and fewer are any good. France are decent, and Italy have come along a bit, but neither will come close to winning a world cup any time soon.

    @gftchris said:

    Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

    Rugby isn't as corrupt as FIFA, because there's not nearly as much money, because there's not nearly as much of a global appeal. It's in England this year, so I expect high attendances, but it's still somewhat of a colonial sport - the major powerhouses being the 'home nations' - England, Ireland etc. - and the antipodean three of Australia, NZ and South Africa. Outside of that, few countries are interested in a big way, and fewer are any good. France are decent, and Italy have come along a bit, but neither will come close to winning a world cup any time soon.

    Well, interesting question. When you have 20 participants and 3 of them are Tonga, Samoa, and Fiji, and another 4 are England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.....I guess it could be a bit provincial (which is the word I think you were going for).

    But...both Canada and the US are a couple of the participants....so that helps. And if, for example a final game for the title came down between the US and England....it would help the sport a lot in my opinion. I don't know if New Zealand vs. Georgia would help its global image so much.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Here is your survey for Friday, May 29. Give your opinions:

    1. Who wins Cavs or Warriors?

    Cavs!!.. It's our year!

    2. Who wins the NHL: Rangers/Lightning/Blackhawks/Ducks

    I really dont care.

    3. Name the three players who have long been eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame but have not been selected as yet that you think should have gone in?

    (for this...do not choose near sure things who are not yet eligible, like a Brett Favre....choose some old timer that has been left out)

    Clay Mathews Sr. Steve Largent, Dick Shafwrath

    4. What is your favorite TV Game show?

    Jeopardy

    5. School's Out for Summer. In my opinion Alice Cooper was about the best in the business when it came to creating "Rock Anthem's" . State which band/act you think was great at creating "Rock Anthem's"....and give a few of your favorites.

    Cleveland Rocks / Mott the Hoople.

    @nickers said:

    @the-gipper said:

    Here is your survey for Friday, May 29. Give your opinions:

    1. Who wins Cavs or Warriors?

    Cavs!!.. It's our year!

    2. Who wins the NHL: Rangers/Lightning/Blackhawks/Ducks

    I really dont care.

    3. Name the three players who have long been eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame but have not been selected as yet that you think should have gone in?

    (for this...do not choose near sure things who are not yet eligible, like a Brett Favre....choose some old timer that has been left out)

    Clay Mathews Sr. Steve Largent, Dick Shafwrath

    Largent is already in......and I love it: "The Wrath of Shaf".

    4. What is your favorite TV Game show?

    Jeopardy

    5. School's Out for Summer. In my opinion Alice Cooper was about the best in the business when it came to creating "Rock Anthem's" . State which band/act you think was great at creating "Rock Anthem's"....and give a few of your favorites.

    Cleveland Rocks / Mott the Hoople.

    Absolutely

  • Let's combine answers to a couple of these questions: Who wins the NBA title? and a favorite anthem and say:

    The Cavaliers are the Champions!!

    (despite my pessimism)

  • 1. Cavs

    2. Anyone but the Ducks and their front runner fans

    3. Clay Matthews

    4. They all suck

    5. No clue..

  • @gftchris said:

    Common people - to people of a certain age, it's a proper anthem. That, along with Ash's Oh Yeah, Blur's Country House, and Oasis' Definitely Maybe album were basically the soundtrack to the 90s for people who didn't find the spice girls all that great.

    Well, either one of two things....or both apply here: A. I may be an old fogey and just don't know those songs, or B. Those were not major hits here in the US. Fair enough on either account.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, either one of two things....or both apply here: A. I may be an old fogey and just don't know those songs, or B. Those were not major hits here in the US. Fair enough on either account.

    What did you think of the songs after listening..?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well, either one of two things....or both apply here: A. I may be an old fogey and just don't know those songs, or B. Those were not major hits here in the US. Fair enough on either account.

    What did you think of the songs after listening..?

    @londonbrown said:

    What did you think of the songs after listening..?

    Not bad but nothing that grabbed you by the balls great. I can see why they didn't really register here.

  • 1. Who wins Cavs or Warriors?



    Cleveland.




    2. Who wins the NHL: Rangers/Lightning/Blackhawks/Ducks



    Tampa.




    3. Name the three players who have long been eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame but have not been selected as yet that you think should have gone in?


    (for this...do not choose near sure things who are not yet eligible, like a Brett Favre....choose some old timer that has been left out)



    Jim Marshall, Alex Karras, Steve Wisniewski



    4. What is your favorite TV Game show?



    College Madhouse




    5. School's Out for Summer. In my opinion Alice Cooper was about the best in the business when it came to creating "Rock Anthem's" . State which band/act you think was great at creating "Rock Anthem's"....and give a few of your favorites.



    Queen and AC/DC


  • 1. Cavs in another sweep!!!!!!!!!

    2. Rangers all the way

    3. Ken Stabler, Clay Mathews

    4. Jeopardy

    5. Queen has a few

  • @the-gipper said:

    Are you saying "exactly....those are the right answers"....or "exactly...see, you have no clue"?

    I do wish that the Rugby WC would get the same attention as the FIFA WC......hopefully the organization that runs Rugby isn't as corrupt.

    Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

    Rugby isn't as corrupt as FIFA, because there's not nearly as much money, because there's not nearly as much of a global appeal. It's in England this year, so I expect high attendances, but it's still somewhat of a colonial sport - the major powerhouses being the 'home nations' - England, Ireland etc. - and the antipodean three of Australia, NZ and South Africa. Outside of that, few countries are interested in a big way, and fewer are any good. France are decent, and Italy have come along a bit, but neither will come close to winning a world cup any time soon.

    @gftchris said:

    Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

    By the way....what is the purpose of the "FA Cup"? Is that the championship of the Premier League? I thought there was another tournament for that.....if so....like I said, what is the purpose of this cup.?

  • @gftchris said:

    Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

    By the way....what is the purpose of the "FA Cup"? Is that the championship of the Premier League? I thought there was another tournament for that.....if so....like I said, what is the purpose of this cup.?

    @the-gipper said:

    @gftchris said:

    Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

    By the way....what is the purpose of the "FA Cup"? Is that the championship of the Premier League? I thought there was another tournament for that.....if so....like I said, what is the purpose of this cup.?

    The premier league is a 20 team round robin. Everyone plays everyone, home and away, so 38 games per team per season. 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw. The league is then sorted by points, and whoever has the most after 38 games wins. No playoffs, nothing like that. Whoever has been the most consistently good, wins.

    The FA cup is a different beast. Bearing in mind the tiered system of soccer, every team that's in the ladder - no matter how lowly - is entered in to the tournament. The higher the team, the later they enter. There's a ton of qualifying, pre-qualifying, before you get to the 'first round proper' which basically means that any even vaguely serious team gets a chance. Theoretically, gftChris United could play Gipper Town in the final. Of course, that doesn't happen, but you could also see Gipper Town playing at home to Liverpool, Man United or Arsenal.

    That's 'the magic of the cup' as it's called. On any given day, any given team can, at least in theory, beat any given team, and win. Compare and contrast with the league system, which rewards consistency - you have to come in the top few places in your league to be promoted to the next league, and the next league, until you get to the premier league.

    By the way, a neat thing about the FA cup is that the ticket money is shared between both clubs. Meaning, Gipper Town, with 300 supporters and a sheep, playing at Liverpool, get a 50% (ish) share of the however-many-millions in ticket sales, plus probably TV revenue, again split 50/50. See this article for info - Cambridge United played at Man United, and as a result got about £1m. For a club whose revenue is also about £1m, it's huge.

  • @the-gipper said:

    @gftchris said:

    Liverpool are not in the FA cup, the final is tomorrow between Aston Villa (my team, Randy Lerner's team), and Arsenal.

    By the way....what is the purpose of the "FA Cup"? Is that the championship of the Premier League? I thought there was another tournament for that.....if so....like I said, what is the purpose of this cup.?

    The premier league is a 20 team round robin. Everyone plays everyone, home and away, so 38 games per team per season. 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw. The league is then sorted by points, and whoever has the most after 38 games wins. No playoffs, nothing like that. Whoever has been the most consistently good, wins.

    The FA cup is a different beast. Bearing in mind the tiered system of soccer, every team that's in the ladder - no matter how lowly - is entered in to the tournament. The higher the team, the later they enter. There's a ton of qualifying, pre-qualifying, before you get to the 'first round proper' which basically means that any even vaguely serious team gets a chance. Theoretically, gftChris United could play Gipper Town in the final. Of course, that doesn't happen, but you could also see Gipper Town playing at home to Liverpool, Man United or Arsenal.

    That's 'the magic of the cup' as it's called. On any given day, any given team can, at least in theory, beat any given team, and win. Compare and contrast with the league system, which rewards consistency - you have to come in the top few places in your league to be promoted to the next league, and the next league, until you get to the premier league.

    By the way, a neat thing about the FA cup is that the ticket money is shared between both clubs. Meaning, Gipper Town, with 300 supporters and a sheep, playing at Liverpool, get a 50% (ish) share of the however-many-millions in ticket sales, plus probably TV revenue, again split 50/50. See this article for info - Cambridge United played at Man United, and as a result got about £1m. For a club whose revenue is also about £1m, it's huge.

    @gftchris said:

    The premier league is a 20 team round robin. Everyone plays everyone, home and away, so 38 games per team per season. 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw. The league is then sorted by points, and whoever has the most after 38 games wins. No playoffs, nothing like that. Whoever has been the most consistently good, wins.

    The FA cup is a different beast. Bearing in mind the tiered system of soccer, every team that's in the ladder - no matter how lowly - is entered in to the tournament. The higher the team, the later they enter. There's a ton of qualifying, pre-qualifying, before you get to the 'first round proper' which basically means that any even vaguely serious team gets a chance. Theoretically, gftChris United could play Gipper Town in the final. Of course, that doesn't happen, but you could also see Gipper Town playing at home to Liverpool, Man United or Arsenal.

    That's 'the magic of the cup' as it's called. On any given day, any given team can, at least in theory, beat any given team, and win. Compare and contrast with the league system, which rewards consistency - you have to come in the top few places in your league to be promoted to the next league, and the next league, until you get to the premier league.

    By the way, a neat thing about the FA cup is that the ticket money is shared between both clubs. Meaning, Gipper Town, with 300 supporters and a sheep, playing at Liverpool, get a 50% (ish) share of the however-many-millions in ticket sales, plus probably TV revenue, again split 50/50. See this article for info - Cambridge United played at Man United, and as a result got about £1m. For a club whose revenue is also about £1m, it's huge.

    Well, sorry, but it sounds like it is generally just the Premier League"s way of having their cake and eating it too.

    It would be like declaring that the team with the best record wins the NFL Champion....and then, oh by the way, we will have this tournament to decide a different championship. Not buying it one second. Its just a money grab from what I can see.

    The nearest thing it sounds to what we have is the basketball tournament.....though in that case no "regular season champion" is declared except in each conference.

    As for it being so egalitarian, well, I guess the money going to the small team's is fine but....when was the last time that someone other than the top Premier teams won this FA Cup?

    It is sounding like FIFA: they give money to all the small countries....in exchange for votes.

    Again, the closest thing to this that we have is when the big College football schools schedule a lower level cupcake to come be a sacrificial lamb. (even more acute in the SEC)

  • @gftchris said:

    The premier league is a 20 team round robin. Everyone plays everyone, home and away, so 38 games per team per season. 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw. The league is then sorted by points, and whoever has the most after 38 games wins. No playoffs, nothing like that. Whoever has been the most consistently good, wins.

    The FA cup is a different beast. Bearing in mind the tiered system of soccer, every team that's in the ladder - no matter how lowly - is entered in to the tournament. The higher the team, the later they enter. There's a ton of qualifying, pre-qualifying, before you get to the 'first round proper' which basically means that any even vaguely serious team gets a chance. Theoretically, gftChris United could play Gipper Town in the final. Of course, that doesn't happen, but you could also see Gipper Town playing at home to Liverpool, Man United or Arsenal.

    That's 'the magic of the cup' as it's called. On any given day, any given team can, at least in theory, beat any given team, and win. Compare and contrast with the league system, which rewards consistency - you have to come in the top few places in your league to be promoted to the next league, and the next league, until you get to the premier league.

    By the way, a neat thing about the FA cup is that the ticket money is shared between both clubs. Meaning, Gipper Town, with 300 supporters and a sheep, playing at Liverpool, get a 50% (ish) share of the however-many-millions in ticket sales, plus probably TV revenue, again split 50/50. See this article for info - Cambridge United played at Man United, and as a result got about £1m. For a club whose revenue is also about £1m, it's huge.

    Well, sorry, but it sounds like it is generally just the Premier League"s way of having their cake and eating it too.

    It would be like declaring that the team with the best record wins the NFL Champion....and then, oh by the way, we will have this tournament to decide a different championship. Not buying it one second. Its just a money grab from what I can see.

    The nearest thing it sounds to what we have is the basketball tournament.....though in that case no "regular season champion" is declared except in each conference.

    As for it being so egalitarian, well, I guess the money going to the small team's is fine but....when was the last time that someone other than the top Premier teams won this FA Cup?

    It is sounding like FIFA: they give money to all the small countries....in exchange for votes.

    Again, the closest thing to this that we have is when the big College football schools schedule a lower level cupcake to come be a sacrificial lamb. (even more acute in the SEC)

    @the-gipper said:

    As for it being so egalitarian, well, I guess the money going to the small team's is fine but....when was the last time that someone other than the top Premier teams won this FA Cup?

    It is sounding like FIFA: they give money to all the small countries....in exchange for votes.

    Small Wigan Athletic won it in 2013 albeit they were in the Premier League at the time. They have since been relegated twice and now find themselves in the third level of the game.

  • @the-gipper said:

    As for it being so egalitarian, well, I guess the money going to the small team's is fine but....when was the last time that someone other than the top Premier teams won this FA Cup?

    It is sounding like FIFA: they give money to all the small countries....in exchange for votes.

    Small Wigan Athletic won it in 2013 albeit they were in the Premier League at the time. They have since been relegated twice and now find themselves in the third level of the game.

    @londonbrown said:

    Small Wigan Athletic won it in 2013 albeit they were in the Premier League at the time. They have since been relegated twice and now find themselves in the third level of the game.

    Randy's Aston Villa team played in it this past week....and if I recall, they sucked swamp water during the "regular season". It kinda seems to me then that the big boys don't take it too seriously and must think of it as a bit of offseason fun with a payday.

    Fair conclusion?

  • @londonbrown said:

    Small Wigan Athletic won it in 2013 albeit they were in the Premier League at the time. They have since been relegated twice and now find themselves in the third level of the game.

    Randy's Aston Villa team played in it this past week....and if I recall, they sucked swamp water during the "regular season". It kinda seems to me then that the big boys don't take it too seriously and must think of it as a bit of offseason fun with a payday.

    Fair conclusion?

    @the-gipper said:

    Randy's Aston Villa team played in it this past week....and if I recall, they sucked swamp water during the "regular season". It kinda seems to me then that the big boys don't take it too seriously and must think of it as a bit of offseason fun with a payday.

    Fair conclusion?

    At this point, I really hope you're trying to troll. And no, not because of Aston Villa.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Randy's Aston Villa team played in it this past week....and if I recall, they sucked swamp water during the "regular season". It kinda seems to me then that the big boys don't take it too seriously and must think of it as a bit of offseason fun with a payday.

    Fair conclusion?

    At this point, I really hope you're trying to troll. And no, not because of Aston Villa.

    @gftchris said:

    At this point, I really hope you're trying to troll. And no, not because of Aston Villa.

    No, I am not. I see that in the 2015 Premier League that Aston Villa was in 17th place during the "regular season". Which is crap, no? I mean, that is one position above relegation, right? Yet they play for the FA cup vs. Arsenal (which came in 3rd). So, how does a crap team get to this FA Cup Final......if the other "good teams" are taking it seriously?

    Are they not taking it seriously? Or did AV improve that much since the end of the "regular" season?

    Hopefully the latter....as, if it is the former, what is the point of the tournament if the good teams don't care a whit about it.

    Here....the tournament....the playoffs is everything.

    Here the Cowboys/Packers/Broncos can have the best regular season record.....but if they lose in the playoffs it "buh-bye" don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

    But note....in the NFL, the Packers/Broncos/Cowboys/Seahawks and Patriots all tied for the best record in the league. What does the Premier League do in case of ties? Especially a 5 team tie?

  • @gftchris said:

    At this point, I really hope you're trying to troll. And no, not because of Aston Villa.

    No, I am not. I see that in the 2015 Premier League that Aston Villa was in 17th place during the "regular season". Which is crap, no? I mean, that is one position above relegation, right? Yet they play for the FA cup vs. Arsenal (which came in 3rd). So, how does a crap team get to this FA Cup Final......if the other "good teams" are taking it seriously?

    Are they not taking it seriously? Or did AV improve that much since the end of the "regular" season?

    Hopefully the latter....as, if it is the former, what is the point of the tournament if the good teams don't care a whit about it.

    Here....the tournament....the playoffs is everything.

    Here the Cowboys/Packers/Broncos can have the best regular season record.....but if they lose in the playoffs it "buh-bye" don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

    But note....in the NFL, the Packers/Broncos/Cowboys/Seahawks and Patriots all tied for the best record in the league. What does the Premier League do in case of ties? Especially a 5 team tie?

    @the-gipper said:

    No, I am not. I see that in the 2015 Premier League that Aston Villa was in 17th place during the "regular season". Which is crap, no? I mean, that is one position above relegation, right? Yet they play for the FA cup vs. Arsenal (which came in 3rd). So, how does a crap team get to this FA Cup Final......if the other "good teams" are taking it seriously?

    Are they not taking it seriously? Or did AV improve that much since the end of the "regular" season?

    Hopefully the latter....as, if it is the former, what is the point of the tournament if the good teams don't care a whit about it.

    Here....the tournament....the playoffs is everything.

    Here the Cowboys/Packers/Broncos can have the best regular season record.....but if they lose in the playoffs it "buh-bye" don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

    But note....in the NFL, the Packers/Broncos/Cowboys/Seahawks and Patriots all tied for the best record in the league. What does the Premier League do in case of ties? Especially a 5 team tie?

    The EPL would give the championship to the team with the biggest goal differential. Not sure what would happen if teams were still tied.

    As for the FA cup, it is an open competition between almost all the teams in ALL of English soccer. Not just the top division.

    It would be like the NCAA having a playoff in football with all the division playing in it.

  • @the-gipper said:

    No, I am not. I see that in the 2015 Premier League that Aston Villa was in 17th place during the "regular season". Which is crap, no? I mean, that is one position above relegation, right? Yet they play for the FA cup vs. Arsenal (which came in 3rd). So, how does a crap team get to this FA Cup Final......if the other "good teams" are taking it seriously?

    Are they not taking it seriously? Or did AV improve that much since the end of the "regular" season?

    Hopefully the latter....as, if it is the former, what is the point of the tournament if the good teams don't care a whit about it.

    Here....the tournament....the playoffs is everything.

    Here the Cowboys/Packers/Broncos can have the best regular season record.....but if they lose in the playoffs it "buh-bye" don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

    But note....in the NFL, the Packers/Broncos/Cowboys/Seahawks and Patriots all tied for the best record in the league. What does the Premier League do in case of ties? Especially a 5 team tie?

    The EPL would give the championship to the team with the biggest goal differential. Not sure what would happen if teams were still tied.

    As for the FA cup, it is an open competition between almost all the teams in ALL of English soccer. Not just the top division.

    It would be like the NCAA having a playoff in football with all the division playing in it.

    @browns149 said:

    The EPL would give the championship to the team with the biggest goal differential. Not sure what would happen if teams were still tied.

    As for the FA cup, it is an open competition between almost all the teams in ALL of English soccer. Not just the top division.

    It would be like the NCAA having a playoff in football with all the division playing in it.

    The deciders are:

    Points - obviously

    Goal difference - also obviously

    Goals scored - to reward and encourage attacking play

    After 38 games, it's quite rare to have even two teams tied on points and GD, let alone goals scored. It's happened a few times in the last maybe 50 years, in which case they are bracketed equal. If it makes a difference in terms of who wins the league, who qualifies for european competition or relegation, then they will have a one match play off to decide the final standings.

    Gip, as I said before, the league is a consistency reward. The cups are 'any given sunday' giving the smaller teams the chance to actually do something important, rather than just trying to grind away trying to get to the top of the ladder. The big teams do take it seriously, but if the smaller teams play a good game, and the bigger teams for whatever reason don't turn up, the smaller team will often win.

    I really don't see what your problem is. It's also not 'offseason fun' as it happens in parallel with the regular season.