Kevin Love OUT of Cleveland
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Jordan won nothing before pippen or after him. That damns THAT argument each and every time.
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One other thing: In his championship run Jordan never faced the quality of opponent as LeBron has had to face in the San Antonio Spurs. Some decent opponents, like the Jazz, but those teams were nothing like the Spurs.
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None of those teams have LeBron
That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.
That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.
Lebron isn't the same as he was when he played here before. He is much more of a team player so you're wrong in your drawback comment.
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None of those teams have LeBron
That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.
That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.
Hmmm..... If Love isn't a stretch 4- then what does he think he is? Should the Cavs manage to win a Championship without him- he had better accept his role with the team, or if you think the grass is greener elsewhere- adios. Want to take your talents back to LA, and play with Mr Ego Kobe? Even with the #2 pick- that franchise is still a train wreck.
As was said earlier elsewhere in this thread, should Love decide to leave- it would majorly suck to have given up Wiggins for a one year rent-a-player.
The good thing is with our De Facto GM, Le Bron- now that he's made a commitment to Cleveland- he can pretty much recruit anyone he wants to play for the Cavs. LOL, bye-bye Love, Durant anyone?
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If the Cavs somehow got Durant, LeBron, Kyrie, and Durant would rank right up there with Magic, Worthy, Kareem, and Bird, Parrish, McHale, as one of the best "BIG" 3 ever
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Jordan won nothing before pippen or after him. That damns THAT argument each and every time.
Jordan won nothing before pippen or after him. That damns THAT argument each and every time.
Same is said for Pippen, didn't win anything in the baseball years and couldn't take Portland or Houston to the promise land.
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That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.
Lebron isn't the same as he was when he played here before. He is much more of a team player so you're wrong in your drawback comment.
Lebron isn't the same as he was when he played here before. He is much more of a team player so you're wrong in your drawback comment.
Lebron has always been a team player but he plays best when he runs the show, that is still true.
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That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.
Hmmm..... If Love isn't a stretch 4- then what does he think he is? Should the Cavs manage to win a Championship without him- he had better accept his role with the team, or if you think the grass is greener elsewhere- adios. Want to take your talents back to LA, and play with Mr Ego Kobe? Even with the #2 pick- that franchise is still a train wreck.
As was said earlier elsewhere in this thread, should Love decide to leave- it would majorly suck to have given up Wiggins for a one year rent-a-player.
The good thing is with our De Facto GM, Le Bron- now that he's made a commitment to Cleveland- he can pretty much recruit anyone he wants to play for the Cavs. LOL, bye-bye Love, Durant anyone?
Hmmm..... If Love isn't a stretch 4- then what does he think he is? Should the Cavs manage to win a Championship without him- he had better accept his role with the team, or if you think the grass is greener elsewhere- adios. Want to take your talents back to LA, and play with Mr Ego Kobe? Even with the #2 pick- that franchise is still a train wreck.
As was said earlier elsewhere in this thread, should Love decide to leave- it would majorly suck to have given up Wiggins for a one year rent-a-player.
The good thing is with our De Facto GM, Le Bron- now that he's made a commitment to Cleveland- he can pretty much recruit anyone he wants to play for the Cavs. LOL, bye-bye Love, Durant anyone?
I believe Love feels he's a #4 that can shoot when needed. I don't think he likes being a perimeter player.
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I guess we have to take Love at his word, he says he's staying
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Hmmm..... If Love isn't a stretch 4- then what does he think he is? Should the Cavs manage to win a Championship without him- he had better accept his role with the team, or if you think the grass is greener elsewhere- adios. Want to take your talents back to LA, and play with Mr Ego Kobe? Even with the #2 pick- that franchise is still a train wreck.
As was said earlier elsewhere in this thread, should Love decide to leave- it would majorly suck to have given up Wiggins for a one year rent-a-player.
The good thing is with our De Facto GM, Le Bron- now that he's made a commitment to Cleveland- he can pretty much recruit anyone he wants to play for the Cavs. LOL, bye-bye Love, Durant anyone?
I believe Love feels he's a #4 that can shoot when needed. I don't think he likes being a perimeter player.
I believe Love feels he's a #4 that can shoot when needed. I don't think he likes being a perimeter player.
IIRC, he played a lot more low post in Minnesota. But- if he means it on coming back- get ready to start paying luxury tax Dan- because it's going to take a ton of money to keep Thompson. That's going to be a nice problem to have.
Dang- right now TT is looking too good to keep on the bench.
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I believe Love feels he's a #4 that can shoot when needed. I don't think he likes being a perimeter player.
IIRC, he played a lot more low post in Minnesota. But- if he means it on coming back- get ready to start paying luxury tax Dan- because it's going to take a ton of money to keep Thompson. That's going to be a nice problem to have.
Dang- right now TT is looking too good to keep on the bench.
IIRC, he played a lot more low post in Minnesota. But- if he means it on coming back- get ready to start paying luxury tax Dan- because it's going to take a ton of money to keep Thompson. That's going to be a nice problem to have.
Dang- right now TT is looking too good to keep on the bench.
Just gotta survive one more year until the cap explodes but then Lebron will be a free agent. I liked Thompson a lot in Texas, for me he has under performed a bit in Cleveland but is having a great run now. If he develops a 15-18 foot "Brandon Bass" jump shot and improves his free throw shooting, dump Love and sign him.
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Lebron will retire in Cleveland. Love will stay for a few years.
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Lebron will retire in Cleveland. Love will stay for a few years.
Lebron will retire in Cleveland. Love will stay for a few years.
If it means keeping a player Le Bron feels can help him win another Championship- he'll certainly take less than a Max deal- he doesn't need the extra couple million. Heard it somewhere he's on track to become the next sports billionaire- after Michael Jordan.
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I don't think it will happen and I kinda don't want it to. Lebrons legacy will be better if he wins without him
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Anyone think its a chance we might sign D Wade next year on the cheap? he might be a great bench player and could go out gracefully on another great team. Just thinking out loud
Anyone think its a chance we might sign D Wade next year on the cheap? he might be a great bench player and could go out gracefully on another great team. Just thinking out loud
If Wade goes anywhere, it's back home to Chicago. For sure, any team that will pay him superstar money is wasting it. He's on his last legs- literally.
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Anyone think its a chance we might sign D Wade next year on the cheap? he might be a great bench player and could go out gracefully on another great team. Just thinking out loud
If Wade goes anywhere, it's back home to Chicago. For sure, any team that will pay him superstar money is wasting it. He's on his last legs- literally.
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Anyone think its a chance we might sign D Wade next year on the cheap? he might be a great bench player and could go out gracefully on another great team. Just thinking out loud
If Wade goes anywhere, it's back home to Chicago. For sure, any team that will pay him superstar money is wasting it. He's on his last legs- literally.
If Wade goes anywhere, it's back home to Chicago. For sure, any team that will pay him superstar money is wasting it. He's on his last legs- literally.
I think Miami will show him the money. If they don't it hurts the league overall. Wade took less money to bring in James and Bosh, if he gets left out in the cold other Superstars won't get fooled in the future.
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Love opts out, not a surprise and really doesn't mean he's gone, but he could've played for $16 million next year and waited for the bi free agent money of 2016-17.
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