Jonathan Paul Manziel
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No offense, but your friends are in the minority...and falling moreso into it everyday.
No, no they're not.
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so 12 year old fags are taking over the world?
HA!
you see ghosts too?
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No offense, but your friends are in the minority...and falling moreso into it everyday.Zombo said:
12 year olds. Heisman trophy. Social media whore ... hence jersey sales
None of my friends want a "bad boy" ... not even a wannabe bottle-tossing badboy.
Just shut up and win or we move on to the next one.
Zombo
No offense, but your friends are in the minority...and falling moreso into it everyday.
So 90% of the Brownsboard and 100% of the Naples Browns Backers are wrong.
You,Walter, the Texas fanboys, a bunch of 12 year olds, and this season's bachelorette all want a "bad boy".
You know he's not a real "bad boy", right? Real bad boys don't "flip off" guys, go to rehab and throw water bottles.
Bad boys drink tequila, shit fire, fuck your wife, and don't explain anything.
IF, they throw something ... it's not water, it doesn't happen at a country club pool, it's not at a 18 year old boy, and they don't miss.
Zombo
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Judging from the jersey sales, they are.
Because Real Browns fans go out and buy the jersey of a 21 year old fucktard who hasn't proven shit, or even shown he's in the right league.
Half those jerseys were sold in Texas, the other half were sold to 12 year old boys .. and you, Walter and a couple other gay guys who like his girlish size and diva attitude.
Zombo
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Well I can guarantee you two things and that is that both former Texas born legends Sammy Baugh and Bobby Layne would have cleaned this kids clock by the second unwanted interruption.
Browns fans who continue to make something out of this situation just have no clue. Be happy it was a water bottle and that otherwise JM has obviously understood he needed to make major changes, which so far he has done. Start backing up your player for his attempts to be your "committed" QB. If you can't see that 10 attempts to explain things to this turd was way over the limit, then your hatred is just getting in the way of your common sense.
Well I can guarantee you two things and that is that both former Texas born legends Sammy Baugh and Bobby Layne would have cleaned this kids clock by the second unwanted interruption.
Browns fans who continue to make something out of this situation just have no clue. Be happy it was a water bottle and that otherwise JM has obviously understood he needed to make major changes, which so far he has done. Start backing up your player for his attempts to be your "committed" QB. If you can't see that 10 attempts to explain things to this turd was way over the limit, then your hatred is just getting in the way of your common sense.
I happen to agree with you Ag. If this had been any other NFL player in the same situation- it's a non-story. Blown miles out of proportion by the media.
Hell, some of the Cincinnati Stripers jailhouse gang have busted up bars, slapped pushy bitches in the face, and gotten less media attention.
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If Manziel's sales were higher than Weeden's then I would say they do. And they were.
12 year olds. Heisman trophy. Social media whore ... hence jersey sales
None of my friends want a "bad boy" ... not even a wannabe bottle-tossing badboy.
Just shut up and win or we move on to the next one.
Zombo
We're really just arguing out of our own experience, which is pretty pointless (although I actually have experience being a fan of Johnny when he was good).Zombo said:
12 year olds. Heisman trophy. Social media whore ... hence jersey sales
None of my friends want a "bad boy" ... not even a wannabe bottle-tossing badboy.
Just shut up and win or we move on to the next one.
Zombo
McCoy was the winningest college quarterback of all time, fresh off a 13-1 season with a team that had been top 2 or 3 in national branding for about a decade, but I suppose no 12 year olds wanted his jersey and the delta between his and Manziel's sales is strictly due to little kids? This makes no sense.
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The president of the Austin Browns Backers is a UT grad and I saw him in a Manziel jersey at the draft party. But he's just another 12 year old and/or Aggie, apparently.
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Judging from the jersey sales, they are.
Because Real Browns fans go out and buy the jersey of a 21 year old fucktard who hasn't proven shit, or even shown he's in the right league.
Half those jerseys were sold in Texas, the other half were sold to 12 year old boys .. and you, Walter and a couple other gay guys who like his girlish size and diva attitude.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Because Real Browns fans go out and buy the jersey of a 21 year old fucktard who hasn't proven shit, or even shown he's in the right league.
Half those jerseys were sold in Texas, the other half were sold to 12 year old boys .. and you, Walter and a couple other gay guys who like his girlish size and diva attitude.
Zombo
So I guess all the guys saying they were going to get Shelton jerseys weren't real Browns fans.
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No offense, but your friends are in the minority...and falling moreso into it everyday.
So 90% of the Brownsboard and 100% of the Naples Browns Backers are wrong.
You,Walter, the Texas fanboys, a bunch of 12 year olds, and this season's bachelorette all want a "bad boy".
You know he's not a real "bad boy", right? Real bad boys don't "flip off" guys, go to rehab and throw water bottles.
Bad boys drink tequila, shit fire, fuck your wife, and don't explain anything.
IF, they throw something ... it's not water, it doesn't happen at a country club pool, it's not at a 18 year old boy, and they don't miss.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Bad boys drink tequila, shit fire, fuck your wife, and don't explain anything.
By the utter reaching you do in order to dump on him (this post itself being a good example) I'm surprised this hasn't happened. Also, at least to everyone I know, tequila is regarded as a pretty feminine drink.
So just to be clear: when he's getting drunk, sleeping with women like Wilt Chamberlain, and not explaining any of it (2012-2014, only 2014 being relevant to you), he's a huge prick and should straighten out, but now that he's clean he's no longer a bad boy.
But you admit to wanting him to be good without being a bad boy, yet are not satisfied with his current state, even though by your own admission, he's no longer a bad boy.
What a tangled web we weave.
But to your point: we played Sam Houston State who is a notoriously dirty team that tries to cheap shot/injure opponents and talk a lot of trash. Johnny took the opportunity to teabag one of their defenders as he was getting up after trucking him into the end zone.
Against Rice when some kid was mouthing off to him, he mouthed off right back and pointed at the scoreboard, almost getting ejected IIRC.
Also against Rice (suspended the first half for selling autographs), he pantomimed signing an autograph after some Rice player mouthed off to him.
Here he is doing the PAT.
These are just off the top of my head. I only said he needed to keep his edge ON the field, and I'm sure he will. Sorry he's failed to live up to your definition of a "bad boy" (even though for a page and a half you argued things with the premise that he was).
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Bad boys carry pistols, smoke weed, knock their wives unconscious, hang with murderers, shoot rival gang members and torture dogs.
WSS
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Bad boys carry pistols, smoke weed, knock their wives unconscious, hang with murderers, shoot rival gang members and torture dogs.
WSS
Bad boys carry pistols, smoke weed, knock their wives unconscious, hang with murderers, shoot rival gang members and torture dogs.
WSS
here we call those people criminals, not bad boys (that term is pretty gay to begin with).
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Bad boys carry pistols, smoke weed, knock their wives unconscious, hang with murderers, shoot rival gang members and torture dogs.
WSS
here we call those people criminals, not bad boys (that term is pretty gay to begin with).
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Holy shit...... Now his fanboys are arguing over how much of a 'bad boy' the lil' fella is! "Ain't he kool?!" "Did you see how he got in that dude's face?!" "Watch yo self, or he'll flip you off!!"
L M A O!!! Funniest, gayest and yet saddest thing I've seen regarding our bestest pop warner QB ever.
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Holy shit...... Now his fanboys are arguing over how much of a 'bad boy' the lil' fella is! "Ain't he kool?!" "Did you see how he got in that dude's face?!" "Watch yo self, or he'll flip you off!!"
L M A O!!! Funniest, gayest and yet saddest thing I've seen regarding our bestest pop warner QB ever.
L M A O!!! Funniest, gayest and yet saddest thing I've seen regarding our bestest pop warner QB ever.
HA!....no doubt......somehow jersey sales and a bad attitude now equal a "good quarterback"....hilarious shit right there...
Where I come from, "Bad Boys" were always a chick thing......
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I've been a big time johnny basher BUT...... if this guy bothered him for two hours, I DON'T BLAME HIM !
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I see the water bottle incident as a non story and give Manziel credit thus far for having a much better work ethic. I don't see him beating out McCown to start this season. The direction the Browns are taking seems clear:
Early signs point to Josh McCown being unchallenged as Browns starting quarterback
Moving the chains: The first week of Browns OTAs was a revelation of where the team is going offensively and who is going to lead them. Their aim is to control the ball on the ground, have the quarterback manage the game and keep the defense in favorable situations.
The job description for quarterback is a modest one and must be embraced, not challenged. He must be willing to play within the structure of a conservative game plan. He must be content to “live for another down” and not try something daring to make a play by himself.
This is why the Browns signed Josh McCown, a 13-year NFL veteran who has played for six teams, and why McCown has been virtually anointed the starting quarterback without even the hint of a “competition” in training camp. It is why Johnny Manziel – tortured enough by his own personal recovery from an unspecified substance abuse problem – is a fish out of water in his second season with the Browns. Manziel didn’t become Johnny Football by handing off or flipping the ball 5 yards to a back in the flat.
The Browns aren’t trying to reinvent Manziel. They are, by all appearances, moving on.
It’s Josh: It all makes sense already, the Browns’ aggressive pursuit of easy-mannered McCown. Brian Hoyer was in a different stage of his career, still determined to prove he could carry a team, too edgy to go with the flow.
McCown, soon to be 36, knows his place and his limitations. “My focus is just how good can I be at decision-making,” McCown said before the Browns completed their first week of OTA practices. “Just holding myself to a high standard, where it never puts us in a bad situation and the defense is always playing with favorable fields. That’s what I hope people see as we move into the season.”
In 12 NFL seasons, McCown has never thrown for more than 2,511 yards and more than 13 touchdowns. When he found himself in surprising demand after a disastrous season with Tampa Bay, he was more attracted to the team with the strong offensive line than one with flashy receivers.
“After being with them, 5-6 weeks, it’s like, had I known it was this good I wouldn’t even needed to take a (free agent) visit (to Buffalo and Chicago),” McCown said of the Browns’ offensive line.
While many quarterbacks chafe at the job description of “game manager,” McCown embraces it.
“Yeah, man, look, that stuff doesn’t bother me,” he said. “I’m trying to win … we’re trying to win a championship. Call it what you want to call it. I just want to win football games.
“That’s my main focus, and it’s to protect the football, keep our team in manageable situations. I know the perception of it, but I think every quarterback to a degree has to be a game manager. He has to manage the football game and some guys have different skill sets that dictate the way they do that. I understand who I am and how I want to go about winning football games, and that’s the key for us.”
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=45541
Brian Hartline stands firmly with new Browns teammate Josh McCownBrian Hartline minced no words in defending quarterback Josh McCown from naysayers on Tuesday.
Hartline's feelings toward the critics (including some media) came on a conference call after he signed his two-year contract, and can be summed up in this sentence: "Anybody that wants to bring in a veteran guy like that and believes in him, if you are a fan of the team why wouldn't you trust the coaching staff and what they are trying to build?"
"I know he's looking forward to establishing some roots here in Cleveland and I am excited to work here with him," Hartline said. "I think a lot of what the coaching staff thinks so if they are good with him, I am good with him."
He admitted he asked about the Browns long-term plans at quarterback -- but even in addressing that issue Hartline veered into McCown praise."I inquired," Hartline said. "Any kind of decisions that they want to make and our conversations can be kept between me and the coaches. With that being said, we've got a great veteran pro's pro in Josh McCown, and I think a lot of his game.
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We are arguing over a backup who hasn't done shit. Potentially the 3rd stringer.
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Bad boys carry pistols, smoke weed, knock their wives unconscious, hang with murderers, shoot rival gang members and torture dogs.
WSS
Bad boys carry pistols, smoke weed, knock their wives unconscious, hang with murderers, shoot rival gang members and torture dogs.
WSS
I don't know if that constitutes what a Bad Boy is.....but I do like the song:
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