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Woman stabbed with fork for 'taking the last rib,' police say

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  • C Clevfan4life

    Stuart said:

    Good post Cleve. From now on you should stick to topics you know something about.

    There's not much I don't at least a good amt about. You should really listen to me more your life would change drastically for the better. So like a wise man once said.....

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    StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    There's not much I don't at least a good amt about.

    Your inability to construct a coherent sentence says otherwise.

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      @clevfan4life said:

      There's not much I don't at least a good amt about.

      Your inability to construct a coherent sentence says otherwise.

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      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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      Stuart said:

      Your inability to construct a coherent sentence says otherwise.

      yeah but my excuse is typing on a gut damn cell phone. You have no excuses for your lapses grammar, punctuation and commonly decent sentence structure.

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      • C Clevfan4life

        Stuart said:

        Your inability to construct a coherent sentence says otherwise.

        yeah but my excuse is typing on a gut damn cell phone. You have no excuses for your lapses grammar, punctuation and commonly decent sentence structure.

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        StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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        @clevfan4life said:

        You have no excuses for your lapses grammar

        Umm..say again?

        Time you give it a rest dude, its gotta be discouraging always having to pull your foot out of your mouth.

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          @mld-woody said:

          I imagine that is all relative to the individuals metabolism.

          My metabolism is fast as fuck. Between that an being active I can pretty much down anything. I would think fasting any extended period would only hurt me.

          I could possibly benefit from it. hey legacy fan what's your opinion?

          WSS

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          Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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          @westside-steve said:

          I could possibly benefit from it. hey legacy fan what's your opinion?

          WSS

          I'm afraid I can't offer much on the way of how it impacts your metabolism other than I know starving yourself causes your body to conserve fat and smoke your muscle mass.

          In your mouth, lack of salivary production (induced by sight, smell, & tasting food) will lead to overgrowth of bacteria. Depending on which bacteria decides to take over, you can end up with rampant decay or gum disease/bone loss.

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          • Legacy FanL Legacy Fan

            @westside-steve said:

            I could possibly benefit from it. hey legacy fan what's your opinion?

            WSS

            I'm afraid I can't offer much on the way of how it impacts your metabolism other than I know starving yourself causes your body to conserve fat and smoke your muscle mass.

            In your mouth, lack of salivary production (induced by sight, smell, & tasting food) will lead to overgrowth of bacteria. Depending on which bacteria decides to take over, you can end up with rampant decay or gum disease/bone loss.

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            @legacy-fan said:

            I'm afraid I can't offer much on the way of how it impacts your metabolism other than I know starving yourself causes your body to conserve fat and smoke your muscle mass.

            In your mouth, lack of salivary production (induced by sight, smell, & tasting food) will lead to overgrowth of bacteria. Depending on which bacteria decides to take over, you can end up with rampant decay or gum disease/bone loss.

            I don't want to flame you dude so I'm saying this respectfully ok? But you're completely wrong on the smoking of muscle mass. There's plenty of studies out there on fasted individuals. They did one on Muslim rugby players who still excercised during Ramadan fasts. It took 3 or 4 days to impact muscle mass. The body releases massive amts of growth hormone to preserve muscle mass.

            That's how humans used to survive, they wouldn't eat big cooked meals for days...just survive on water and some berries shit like that and then go out hunting every few days.

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              I'd like to see some studies on the manner

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                I'd like to see some studies on the manner

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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                @mld-woody said:

                I'd like to see some studies on the manner

                No idea how reputable, but here's one I found with 10 seconds of googling...

                http://esciencecentral.org/ebooks/effects-of-ramadan-fasting/pdf/ramadan-fasting-sport-performance.pdf

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  yeah google fasting and growth hormone, you'll see a study that shows a 2000% in GH starting at roughly the 12 hour mark and continuing for 36 or so hours. Just fasting dinner to dinner though give you at least a couple hours in the prime zone for GH production.

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                  • C Clevfan4life

                    @legacy-fan said:

                    I'm afraid I can't offer much on the way of how it impacts your metabolism other than I know starving yourself causes your body to conserve fat and smoke your muscle mass.

                    In your mouth, lack of salivary production (induced by sight, smell, & tasting food) will lead to overgrowth of bacteria. Depending on which bacteria decides to take over, you can end up with rampant decay or gum disease/bone loss.

                    I don't want to flame you dude so I'm saying this respectfully ok? But you're completely wrong on the smoking of muscle mass. There's plenty of studies out there on fasted individuals. They did one on Muslim rugby players who still excercised during Ramadan fasts. It took 3 or 4 days to impact muscle mass. The body releases massive amts of growth hormone to preserve muscle mass.

                    That's how humans used to survive, they wouldn't eat big cooked meals for days...just survive on water and some berries shit like that and then go out hunting every few days.

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                    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by Legacy Fan
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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    I don't want to flame you dude so I'm saying this respectfully ok? But you're completely wrong on the smoking of muscle mass. There's plenty of studies out there on fasted individuals. They did one on Muslim rugby players who still excercised during Ramadan fasts. It took 3 or 4 days to impact muscle mass. The body releases massive amts of growth hormone to preserve muscle mass.

                    That's how humans used to survive, they wouldn't eat big cooked meals for days...just survive on water and some berries shit like that and then go out hunting every few days.

                    Those Ramadan fasts are sunup to sundown. Water/ food available/ consumed when the sun goes down. (This would explain any gains in muscle mass)

                    I was referring to the weeklong several week kind. (Google anorexia as an example of the extreme)

                    Also growth hormone is categorized as a stress hormone. Like cortisol and the catecholamines. Extended, excessive release of these always have deleterious effects.

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                    • Legacy FanL Legacy Fan

                      @clevfan4life said:

                      I don't want to flame you dude so I'm saying this respectfully ok? But you're completely wrong on the smoking of muscle mass. There's plenty of studies out there on fasted individuals. They did one on Muslim rugby players who still excercised during Ramadan fasts. It took 3 or 4 days to impact muscle mass. The body releases massive amts of growth hormone to preserve muscle mass.

                      That's how humans used to survive, they wouldn't eat big cooked meals for days...just survive on water and some berries shit like that and then go out hunting every few days.

                      Those Ramadan fasts are sunup to sundown. Water/ food available/ consumed when the sun goes down. (This would explain any gains in muscle mass)

                      I was referring to the weeklong several week kind. (Google anorexia as an example of the extreme)

                      Also growth hormone is categorized as a stress hormone. Like cortisol and the catecholamines. Extended, excessive release of these always have deleterious effects.

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                      @legacy-fan said:

                      Also growth hormone is categorized as a stress hormone. Like cortisol and the catecholamines. Extended, excessive release of these always have deleterious effects.

                      I've never heard that, ever. Growth Hormone is the master hormone, without it we make nothing. I can see synthetic GH as having deleterious effects in abundance. But the body left to it's own devices will never make more or less than it needs. Fasting isn't going to make you Andre the Giant and enlarge your heart.

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                      • C Clevfan4life

                        @legacy-fan said:

                        Also growth hormone is categorized as a stress hormone. Like cortisol and the catecholamines. Extended, excessive release of these always have deleterious effects.

                        I've never heard that, ever. Growth Hormone is the master hormone, without it we make nothing. I can see synthetic GH as having deleterious effects in abundance. But the body left to it's own devices will never make more or less than it needs. Fasting isn't going to make you Andre the Giant and enlarge your heart.

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                        Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        I've never heard that, ever. Growth Hormone is the master hormone, without it we make nothing.

                        This is debatable.
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                          @clevfan4life said:

                          I've never heard that, ever. Growth Hormone is the master hormone, without it we make nothing.

                          This is debatable.
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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          @legacy-fan said:

                          This is debatable.

                          Is it? I've always read that we wouldn't make any of the other hormones without growth hormone first. It's not a "direct" precursor to the other hormones..well except for IGF. But without GH none of the other systems that made the other hormones would function properly. This has always been my understanding and I've done a lot of reading on this throughout the years. In my 20's I took synthetic GH and IGF so I made sure I knew what I was taking. After a major health scare I stopped all willful intake of anything synthetic including vitamins. Any synthetic substances in my body are there from the environment, can't be helped. But I try to minimize it as best I can.

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