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You betcha it's true. Obamao is a rogue, undermining America president

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  • I didn't read the whole article? Interesting, considering I was talking about statistics mentioned at the bottom. Must be excellent guesswork - perhaps I should play the lottery.

    Anyway, the point trying to be made in the article was "GDP growth is negative, the economy is in reverse, we're heading for cloward-piven" - what I was doing was saying that the economy isn't in reverse, apart from the first quarters, and is in fact in quite a healthy shape when compared to other major developed-country economies.

    "Capitalism dies as a majority of Americans wind up hooked on welfare, food stamps, free healthcare and government checks like a drug addict is hooked on heroin, crack cocaine, or crystal meth. Obama is America’s drug dealer. But his drug of choice is government dependency."

    Now, how is that only referring to the fiscal first quarter of Obamao? HOW? Chris's "responses" are EXACTLY what I

    was talking about - emotional knee jerk - dissing one part of the entire article, first quarter, and ignoring/not reading the entire

    article as a whole.

    The whole point of the article is based around poor first quarter performances, using that to scare people.

  • I don't really care about your illegal immigrants - your problem, not mine, we have our own issues to deal with. What i'm talking about is the economy, as it's something I have more knowledge than the average person.

  • Therefore, Chris, cherry picking from one point of the entire article is pretty

    disingenuous, and very liberal kneejerkish.

    Our country is headed towards a point of being completely overwhelmed with entitlements.

    And you can bet that all those supported by our gov programs will be voting for socialist Obamao.

    What a plan.

  • Just so I'm following here

    You're saying that Chris's posts were the "emotional knee jerk", not yours. Correct? Because that isn't the vibe I'm getting here...

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    Just so I'm following here

    You're saying that Chris's posts were the "emotional knee jerk", not yours. Correct? Because that isn't the vibe I'm getting here...

    @mld-woody said:

    Just so I'm following here

    You're saying that Chris's posts were the "emotional knee jerk", not yours. Correct? Because that isn't the vibe I'm getting here...

    What's ironic is that Cal's response to someone disagreeing with him is apparently to call them a knee-jerk emotional liberal, in an extremely knee-jerk emotional way.

  • well, then, why do you care to pipe up in this thread? Our economy is our problem, not yours.

    Our politics are our problem, not yours. Sounds to me like you are trying to provide cover for

    your cherry picked emotional knee jerk.

    The whole point is lost on you when you intentionally ignore all the other points in the post.

    I gave examples of the runaway problems we are headed for, and the dishonest attempts of

    the obamao regime to raise more and more money with regulatory power.

    Not only outrageous fines for the smallest thing like a perfectly legal pond....

    but hidden in the obamaocare bill - is a gigantic money maker for the obamao gov - money

    for entitlements that will never be enough.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/02/obamacare-brings-new-taxes-fees-for-2014/

  • Boy, do I have you and your little woodypeckerhead nailed.

    I'm explaining the big picture. The article also refers to the big picture.

    You are being contrarian emotionally kneejerky by attacking one point of

    the article - that first quarter, and ignoring everything else.

    Then you defend your cherry picking by saying that "x" isn't your problem.

    hahaha. That's funny. Chris - have you ever read up on the Cloward-piven philosophy?

    Ever? Freaking ever one time in your lalaland liberal existence?

    And naturally, woodypecker head rides another lib's coattails again.

  • I'm always glad to have Chris's input. We do need to understand he's coming from a different culture though with even higher taxes, less personal liberty, more government spending (at least probably on social programs) and, I'm assuming, more free shit. Of course that's the goal of our present administration here in the US. It's a way of life over there so there's no transition to worry about. It's not our way of life. Yet.

    WSS

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  • here we go again with another of cals emotional estrogen fired outbursts about improbable narratives where facts have been routinely mis analyzed. Another flaring up of conservative yeast infection.

  • C Clevfan4life

    here we go again with another of cals emotional estrogen fired outbursts about improbable narratives where facts have been routinely mis analyzed. Another flaring up of conservative yeast infection.

    @clevfan4life said:

    here we go again with another of cals emotional estrogen fired outbursts about improbable narratives where facts have been routinely mis analyzed. Another flaring up of conservative yeast infection.

    You tell em; estrogen he must be a damn queer!

    Why do you hate the gay community so badly?

    WSS

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  • What if I were to tell you that welfare spending has in fact gone down since 2010?

    http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_2003_2023USb_16s2li111mcn_40t

  • He's a hater. He hates everything and everybody. Cleve is like a foot fungus,

    he's just nasty, ugly, rubs everybody with any sense the wrong way, and his

    posts stink up the board.

    Nasty. Cleve - a gay foot fungus liberal - who woulda thunk it?

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  • I see that, Chris, but the projections are, imho, understated, and they will be a

    whole lot higher.

    That's my point. It's the direction we are headed in, and your own link's projections say it too.

    The truth is more like this:

    gftChrisG C 2 Replies

  • Now, you add increased dependence on entitlements, and the giant

    addition of illegals getting benefits, maybe it's just me? haha,

    but I see higher than that 75 percent figure.

    That is very, very bad. That is what I'm talking about.

  • http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/recent_spending
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  • C calfoxwc

    I see that, Chris, but the projections are, imho, understated, and they will be a

    whole lot higher.

    That's my point. It's the direction we are headed in, and your own link's projections say it too.

    The truth is more like this:

    @calfoxwc said:

    I see that, Chris, but the projections are, imho, understated, and they will be a

    whole lot higher.

    That's my point. It's the direction we are headed in, and your own link's projections say it too.

    The truth is more like this:

    Those are absolute amounts. It's difficult to find exact figures, but the projections look to be growing by a fairly small amount, I wonder how it relates to GDP growth?

  • Good question, heck if I know. But entitlements are a growing problem, and

    GDP could be unstable, and fall. I don't think anybody sees entitlements falling.

    Say, here is some "frightening" emotional stuff about it:

    I have to go get to work outside, haven't read much of it....

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-27/40-frightening-facts-fall-us-economy

    gftChrisG 1 Reply
  • W Westside Steve
    http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/recent_spending

    @westside-steve said:

    That's pretty much right - spending is, in sensible terms, in line with previous governments - as a percentage of GDP, it's around the same, and is coming back in to line moreso as we move away from the crash of 2008.

  • C calfoxwc

    Good question, heck if I know. But entitlements are a growing problem, and

    GDP could be unstable, and fall. I don't think anybody sees entitlements falling.

    Say, here is some "frightening" emotional stuff about it:

    I have to go get to work outside, haven't read much of it....

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-27/40-frightening-facts-fall-us-economy

    @calfoxwc said:

    Good question, heck if I know. But entitlements are a growing problem, and

    GDP could be unstable, and fall. I don't think anybody sees entitlements falling.

    GDP is generally stable, and will be for some time now, as investors err on the side of caution in the post-crash environment. Another 20 years and maybe things start getting carried away, but there'll be plenty more presidents to blame for the world's problems between now and then.

    Entitlements as a whole won't fall, but the bigger problem than welfare, IMHO, is pensions. When you think about it, a pension scheme is essentially a ponzi scheme - pay the people who signed up yesterday with today's money, and get as many people to join until the money runs out. It's fine when you have an expanding population, but when it's contracting as in the developed world, you end up running out of money.

  • Statistics can be misleading. Taking it to the bottom line, this country through higher taxes by Obama has brought in a record amount of money into the government but that has not stopped the growth of the national debt now over 18 trillion dollars. How can that not mean we don't have a spending problem?

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