You betcha it's true. Obamao is a rogue, undermining America president
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I see that, Chris, but the projections are, imho, understated, and they will be a
whole lot higher.
That's my point. It's the direction we are headed in, and your own link's projections say it too.
The truth is more like this:
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Now, you add increased dependence on entitlements, and the giant
addition of illegals getting benefits, maybe it's just me? haha,
but I see higher than that 75 percent figure.
That is very, very bad. That is what I'm talking about.
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I see that, Chris, but the projections are, imho, understated, and they will be a
whole lot higher.
That's my point. It's the direction we are headed in, and your own link's projections say it too.
The truth is more like this:
I see that, Chris, but the projections are, imho, understated, and they will be a
whole lot higher.
That's my point. It's the direction we are headed in, and your own link's projections say it too.
The truth is more like this:
Those are absolute amounts. It's difficult to find exact figures, but the projections look to be growing by a fairly small amount, I wonder how it relates to GDP growth?
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Good question, heck if I know. But entitlements are a growing problem, and
GDP could be unstable, and fall. I don't think anybody sees entitlements falling.
Say, here is some "frightening" emotional stuff about it:
I have to go get to work outside, haven't read much of it....
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-27/40-frightening-facts-fall-us-economy
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That's pretty much right - spending is, in sensible terms, in line with previous governments - as a percentage of GDP, it's around the same, and is coming back in to line moreso as we move away from the crash of 2008.
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Good question, heck if I know. But entitlements are a growing problem, and
GDP could be unstable, and fall. I don't think anybody sees entitlements falling.
Say, here is some "frightening" emotional stuff about it:
I have to go get to work outside, haven't read much of it....
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-27/40-frightening-facts-fall-us-economy
Good question, heck if I know. But entitlements are a growing problem, and
GDP could be unstable, and fall. I don't think anybody sees entitlements falling.
GDP is generally stable, and will be for some time now, as investors err on the side of caution in the post-crash environment. Another 20 years and maybe things start getting carried away, but there'll be plenty more presidents to blame for the world's problems between now and then.
Entitlements as a whole won't fall, but the bigger problem than welfare, IMHO, is pensions. When you think about it, a pension scheme is essentially a ponzi scheme - pay the people who signed up yesterday with today's money, and get as many people to join until the money runs out. It's fine when you have an expanding population, but when it's contracting as in the developed world, you end up running out of money.
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Statistics can be misleading. Taking it to the bottom line, this country through higher taxes by Obama has brought in a record amount of money into the government but that has not stopped the growth of the national debt now over 18 trillion dollars. How can that not mean we don't have a spending problem?
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Statistics can be misleading. Taking it to the bottom line, this country through higher taxes by Obama has brought in a record amount of money into the government but that has not stopped the growth of the national debt now over 18 trillion dollars. How can that not mean we don't have a spending problem?
Statistics can be misleading. Taking it to the bottom line, this country through higher taxes by Obama has brought in a record amount of money into the government but that has not stopped the growth of the national debt now over 18 trillion dollars. How can that not mean we don't have a spending problem?
Suppose I get a mortgage and buy a house. Now I'm in debt, but paying it off. I now want to buy a car, which pushes me further in debt, but i'm paying it off also. Do I have a spending problem?
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Statistics can be misleading. Taking it to the bottom line, this country through higher taxes by Obama has brought in a record amount of money into the government but that has not stopped the growth of the national debt now over 18 trillion dollars. How can that not mean we don't have a spending problem?
Suppose I get a mortgage and buy a house. Now I'm in debt, but paying it off. I now want to buy a car, which pushes me further in debt, but i'm paying it off also. Do I have a spending problem?
Suppose I get a mortgage and buy a house. Now I'm in debt, but paying it off. I now want to buy a car, which pushes me further in debt, but i'm paying it off also. Do I have a spending problem?
If you buy a house over your financial means and a new car you can't afford the answer is yes.
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I see that, Chris, but the projections are, imho, understated, and they will be a
whole lot higher.
That's my point. It's the direction we are headed in, and your own link's projections say it too.
The truth is more like this:
I see that, Chris, but the projections are, imho, understated,
So were you an economist cal? Cause you sound like you have no idea what you're talking about, which is indicative of someone who spent his professional years on the subject. Oh wait it's the other way around isn't it?
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He's a hater. He hates everything and everybody. Cleve is like a foot fungus,
he's just nasty, ugly, rubs everybody with any sense the wrong way, and his
posts stink up the board.
Nasty. Cleve - a gay foot fungus liberal - who woulda thunk it?
He's a hater. He hates everything and everybody. Cleve is like a foot fungus,
he's just nasty, ugly, rubs everybody with any sense the wrong way, and his
posts stink up the board.
Nasty. Cleve - a gay foot fungus liberal - who woulda thunk it?
more conservative emotional instability.
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So were you an economist cal? Cause you sound like you have no idea what you're talking about, which is indicative of someone who spent his professional years on the subject. Oh wait it's the other way around isn't it?
So were you an economist cal? Cause you sound like you have no idea what you're talking about, which is indicative of someone who spent his professional years on the subject. Oh wait it's the other way around isn't it?
I have always thought if you put 10 different economists in a room you will get 10 different theories on the economy. I am not sure anyone really has a handle on it?
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Conservatives do have a point though on govt spending. Of course they only bring up that point when a dem is in office. And that's where they lose me. What was wrong with Clintons surplus's? I never really liked the guy but why can't we run surplus's till we have a rainy day? Why is that if the govt gets by with spending less they feel the need to start spending that surplus on the special interests that got them in office? You see how dysfunctional we are? This country ain't no family, never was. Everybody is just out for their own and in reality give a flying fuck about each other but go out on sundays and pass the basket around to make a show of it and feel better about themselves. In the end we'll just be another footnote in history. An interesting chapter in some future societies textbooks. And why? Greed . That simple.
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The greater point is this - straight from the article that Chris didn't bother reading.
"Capitalism dies as a majority of Americans wind up hooked on welfare, food stamps, free healthcare and government checks like a drug addict is hooked on heroin, crack cocaine, or crystal meth. Obama is America’s drug dealer. But his drug of choice is government dependency."
Now, how is that only referring to the fiscal first quarter of Obamao? HOW? Chris's "responses" are EXACTLY what I
was talking about - emotional knee jerk - dissing one part of the entire article, first quarter, and ignoring/not reading the entire
article as a whole.
Look at our troubles - our deficit, immigration gone wild, the enormous hidden costs of obamaocare,
regulations in the thousands by this corrupt regime to complicate anything they can, including expanding,
theoretically, their control over waterways ...to ponds, ditches, low spots flooded in fields. You watch fines
start hitting farmers and landowners. The EPA has gone crazy with raising money for Obamao.
Think not ? Want to emotionally knee jerk about that?
Read on:
Family builds wildlife pond:
EPA claims it can garnish wages ...even if a family is only "ACCUSED", and not guilty.
The greater point is this - straight from the article that Chris didn't bother reading.
"Capitalism dies as a majority of Americans wind up hooked on welfare, food stamps, free healthcare and government checks like a drug addict is hooked on heroin, crack cocaine, or crystal meth. Obama is America’s drug dealer. But his drug of choice is government dependency."
Now, how is that only referring to the fiscal first quarter of Obamao? HOW? Chris's "responses" are EXACTLY what I
was talking about - emotional knee jerk - dissing one part of the entire article, first quarter, and ignoring/not reading the entire
article as a whole.
Look at our troubles - our deficit, immigration gone wild, the enormous hidden costs of obamaocare,
regulations in the thousands by this corrupt regime to complicate anything they can, including expanding,
theoretically, their control over waterways ...to ponds, ditches, low spots flooded in fields. You watch fines
start hitting farmers and landowners. The EPA has gone crazy with raising money for Obamao.
Think not ? Want to emotionally knee jerk about that?
Read on:
Family builds wildlife pond:
EPA claims it can garnish wages ...even if a family is only "ACCUSED", and not guilty.
The question in that case is whether he built a dam or not. Neither of us have been on that property and know enough to make an informed comment on this. But would you agree that damning a river or stream should be regulated? Cause if you let some homeowner do that, everyone's gonna do it...and who's gonna build the biggest one? Why corporations of course. Would completely alter our landscape. India and China may one day go to war over China's damning up of rivers...cause India is downstream from all of em and China could theoretically cut off their water. These are complex issues best left to people who know exactly what they're talking about.
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Conservatives do have a point though on govt spending. Of course they only bring up that point when a dem is in office. And that's where they lose me. What was wrong with Clintons surplus's? I never really liked the guy but why can't we run surplus's till we have a rainy day? Why is that if the govt gets by with spending less they feel the need to start spending that surplus on the special interests that got them in office? You see how dysfunctional we are? This country ain't no family, never was. Everybody is just out for their own and in reality give a flying fuck about each other but go out on sundays and pass the basket around to make a show of it and feel better about themselves. In the end we'll just be another footnote in history. An interesting chapter in some future societies textbooks. And why? Greed . That simple.
Conservatives do have a point though on govt spending. Of course they only bring up that point when a dem is in office. And that's where they lose me. What was wrong with Clintons surplus's? I never really liked the guy but why can't we run surplus's till we have a rainy day? Why is that if the govt gets by with spending less they feel the need to start spending that surplus on the special interests that got them in office? You see how dysfunctional we are? This country ain't no family, never was. Everybody is just out for their own and in reality give a flying fuck about each other but go out on sundays and pass the basket around to make a show of it and feel better about themselves. In the end we'll just be another footnote in history. An interesting chapter in some future societies textbooks. And why? Greed . That simple.
We are in new territory with the national debt over 18 trillion dollars (and growing). I have always been for a balanced budget, it just makes sense government should live within it's means.
Yes people are selfish. Many times we see selfishness in others and not so much in ourselves. At least on Sundays many people are striving in the Christian faith to put others ahead of themselves which is what the New Testament teaches.
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Conservatives do have a point though on govt spending. Of course they only bring up that point when a dem is in office. And that's where they lose me. What was wrong with Clintons surplus's? I never really liked the guy but why can't we run surplus's till we have a rainy day? Why is that if the govt gets by with spending less they feel the need to start spending that surplus on the special interests that got them in office? You see how dysfunctional we are? This country ain't no family, never was. Everybody is just out for their own and in reality give a flying fuck about each other but go out on sundays and pass the basket around to make a show of it and feel better about themselves. In the end we'll just be another footnote in history. An interesting chapter in some future societies textbooks. And why? Greed . That simple.
We are in new territory with the national debt over 18 trillion dollars (and growing). I have always been for a balanced budget, it just makes sense government should live within it's means.
Yes people are selfish. Many times we see selfishness in others and not so much in ourselves. At least on Sundays many people are striving in the Christian faith to put others ahead of themselves which is what the New Testament teaches.
We are in new territory with the national debt over 18 trillion dollars (and growing). I have always been for a balanced budget, it just makes sense government should live within it's means.
Yes people are selfish. Many times we see selfishness in others and not so much in ourselves. At least on Sundays many people are striving in the Christian faith to put others ahead of themselves which is what the New Testament teaches.
Perhaps they should do it every other day of the week as well?
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We are in new territory with the national debt over 18 trillion dollars (and growing). I have always been for a balanced budget, it just makes sense government should live within it's means.
Yes people are selfish. Many times we see selfishness in others and not so much in ourselves. At least on Sundays many people are striving in the Christian faith to put others ahead of themselves which is what the New Testament teaches.
Perhaps they should do it every other day of the week as well?
Perhaps they should do it every other day of the week as well?
I strive to brother.
Really we should, it is not just an on Sunday or Easter and Christmas faith it should be practiced daily. Humanists believe we are basically born good while the bible says otherwise, that we are born with a sin nature (that is selfish). I think if you look at human history you can easily see which view is correct. -
Perhaps they should do it every other day of the week as well?
I strive to brother.
Really we should, it is not just an on Sunday or Easter and Christmas faith it should be practiced daily. Humanists believe we are basically born good while the bible says otherwise, that we are born with a sin nature (that is selfish). I think if you look at human history you can easily see which view is correct.I think if you look at human history you can easily see which view is correct.
Greed and selfishness exists in the realm of humanity, but it is indoctrinated from one generation to the next. Of course it's dressed up with fancy words like capitalism, free market mechanics, efficiency etc, etc. That's how each gen is brainwashed.
My own personal belief that after enough lives in this realm it doesn't need to be taught anymore, they are absolutely born that way cause they carry it from one life to the next....the dark side has it's minion. Which is precisely why all of us have to disavow this creation when we pass from here. Be done with it. No god we want any part of made this. Maybe at the beginning..who knows. But not now. Coming back here again and again furthers this bad story. But those are just my personal "beliefs".
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I think if you look at human history you can easily see which view is correct.
Greed and selfishness exists in the realm of humanity, but it is indoctrinated from one generation to the next. Of course it's dressed up with fancy words like capitalism, free market mechanics, efficiency etc, etc. That's how each gen is brainwashed.
My own personal belief that after enough lives in this realm it doesn't need to be taught anymore, they are absolutely born that way cause they carry it from one life to the next....the dark side has it's minion. Which is precisely why all of us have to disavow this creation when we pass from here. Be done with it. No god we want any part of made this. Maybe at the beginning..who knows. But not now. Coming back here again and again furthers this bad story. But those are just my personal "beliefs".
Greed and selfishness exists in the realm of humanity, but it is indoctrinated from one generation to the next. Of course it's dressed up with fancy words like capitalism, free market mechanics, efficiency etc, etc. That's how each gen is brainwashed.
My own personal belief that after enough lives in this realm it doesn't need to be taught anymore, they are absolutely born that way cause they carry it from one life to the next....the dark side has it's minion. Which is precisely why all of us have to disavow this creation when we pass from here. Be done with it. No god we want any part of made this. Maybe at the beginning..who knows. But not now. Coming back here again and again furthers this bad story. But those are just my personal "beliefs".
My wife did day care for many years. You see that selfish nature in small children. it is a part of the human condition and not something that needs to get indoctrinated or taught.
As a Christian I am for capitalism because it has shown it produces the highest standard of living in the world. Is it based on greed, yes. And yet I want the person who has made enough money to last hundreds of lifetimes to have a desire to make even more money, to grow a company further, add employees invest in new equipment to increase their profits. The reason is we all benefit from these people and I don't want to see them punished for success because they are the ones paying most of the taxes and building the roads and bridges. A rising tide does raise all the boats. Class warfare which the democrats play is destructive to our democracy. Why should I hate someone who is more successful than me or worked harder and smarter than me?
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