Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Yes and that wasn't my "original" post on the topic. Nor was it my first go-to word for what I was describing. I said edge originally IIRC.Zombo said:
Please refer to Post 93 on page 5 of this thread where the term "bad boy QB" was introduced.
Just go ahead and own it, it'll be easier for you.
Zombo
Yes and that wasn't my "original" post on the topic. Nor was it my first go-to word for what I was describing. I said edge originally IIRC.
Zombo said:
It may not be where you started but you went there all by yourself.
.....It seems like you just think Johnnys cool and took 20 posts to articulate it.....and you assume that since you think JFF is cool, that EVERYBODY else must agree.....(and, somehow, JERSEYS are the proof....cause everybody buys jerseys based upon "cool factor")(which I think is very wrong...normally, its kids who buy based upon cool factor)
The videos you posted are of JFF getting a penalty for running his mouth....and a video of him tea bagging(disrespecting) an opponent....etc.....and then you claim this is edgy bad boy type stuff we should all like and want from our leader... while many of us just consider it childish immature stuff we dont like....see?........
Heck.... there are kids who love Beiber and think he's cool too....and they arent able to understand why so many people mock him......BUT, as they grow up, it becomes more obvious to them......takes time....
In the end....it's about polarity....the traits that make him so popular are the exact same traits that so many hate....
My analogy.....Johnny is like a pair of sagging pants......some think it's super cool......others laugh and think it's stupid.....
And no one will ever agree.......polarity 101......
Talking about Johnny is like debating abortion, climate change, politics and religion.....there are too many delusional extremists on both sides that wont even allow it to be a reasonable discussion....
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...so Manziel is Slim Shady?
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
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All is well in Brownsville. Season can't get started soon enough.
And if you don't agree with that then all, including Tour, don't have a clue.
There's the Ag we all love...
Ok I'll grant you that but it's not exactly checkmate kind of info.
Agree... just check.
2. I'm not going by their gameplan, I'm going by the general sentiment that seems to be floating around this board. I can't keep track of how many times I've read "strong defense, great running game, game manager at QB" as a rebuttal to the idea of having a franchise quarterback. Fact of the matter is that many posters in here are longing for days long past. You certainly need a strong defense, you definitely need a strong running game...but you also have to have a strong quarterback.
Top Jersey Sales by player 2014-2015
10. Johnny Manziel, Cleveland Browns
Not only is Manziel in the top 10, he's the only Brown in the top 50.
Which tells me that Manziel fans and not Browns fans made the difference. All we heard after the draft from "the influx" was how JM Browns' jerseys were hard to keep in stock in Texas. While there is an intersection of the two circles of fans (remember your set theory or Boolean algebra?) I do not think it is that large. Not yet anyway... and it has not exactly been growing.
Without regional data we are both hand-waving.
On the QB... I don't think it is so much a rebuttal as it is the available path. As we've agreed before:
D+RunningGame+FranchiseQB > D+RunningGame+GameManagaingPlaceholder
And someday we will get a Franchise QB.
But until then we build what we can in the other two areas.
Simple...
There's the Ag we all love...
We aim to please all the clueless fans here. LOL!!
Speaking of which, Mik, you know damn well you would not have lasted the 15 min. before calling security. You'd of had that kid under water in 5 min. with someone dialing 911 to save his life.
And you have now all had the benefit of two days of a non-functioning router at my home and can thank my smarter kid for getting my Browns-fan-abuser working again.
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There's the Ag we all love...
We aim to please all the clueless fans here. LOL!!
Speaking of which, Mik, you know damn well you would not have lasted the 15 min. before calling security. You'd of had that kid under water in 5 min. with someone dialing 911 to save his life.
And you have now all had the benefit of two days of a non-functioning router at my home and can thank my smarter kid for getting my Browns-fan-abuser working again.
:lol:Speaking of which, Mik, you know damn well you would not have lasted the 15 min. before calling security. You'd of had that kid under water in 5 min. with someone dialing 911 to save his life.
shit AG i'm too old to be getting in fights let alone go stand around and watch a bunch of dudes teeing off and putting.
now the pool-side bar is another story............still too many people for my liking.
you know what i've learned? you can't get kicked out of your own house watching your own tv drinking your own drink. (uh wait, i take that back.)
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Speaking of which, Mik, you know damn well you would not have lasted the 15 min. before calling security. You'd of had that kid under water in 5 min. with someone dialing 911 to save his life.
shit AG i'm too old to be getting in fights let alone go stand around and watch a bunch of dudes teeing off and putting.
now the pool-side bar is another story............still too many people for my liking.
you know what i've learned? you can't get kicked out of your own house watching your own tv drinking your own drink. (uh wait, i take that back.)
now the pool-side bar is another story............still too many people for my liking.
you know what i've learned? you can't get kicked out of your own house watching your own tv drinking your own drink. (uh wait, i take that back.)
HA!....Hilarious......I bet there's some good there....like she was a bitch AND you got a new TV?.....right?
And I hate crowds too....if I was a rich millionaire, I wouldnt be pool side anywhere or just anywhere public(just not my thing).....Id be 100% awol....completely invisible......probably is some super sleak, super private oasis soaking up the quiet, plush lifestyle......maybe in a remote mountain chalet somewhere....(with everything I need BUT no idiots or prying eyes)
And definitely would be dealing with how to handle my own comfort, babes, food and drinks.....as opposed to dealing with pesky drunk 18yr olds who love me.....
I honestly honestly think "being famous" would completely suck rocks......and THATS why Ive decided to be common instead of world famous.....
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I had plenty of complaints about Manziel last season but for me he is starting off with a clean slate now after completing rehab. I give him credit for getting himself into counseling and all indications have been he has had a great work ethic since his return. That is all I can ask out of him.
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I had plenty of complaints about Manziel last season but for me he is starting off with a clean slate now after completing rehab. I give him credit for getting himself into counseling and all indications have been he has had a great work ethic since his return. That is all I can ask out of him.
I had plenty of complaints about Manziel last season but for me he is starting off with a clean slate now after completing rehab. I give him credit for getting himself into counseling and all indications have been he has had a great work ethic since his return. That is all I can ask out of him.
All we can ask is that he plays like an NFL QB and wins some fucking games. So far he hasn't done shit.
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I had plenty of complaints about Manziel last season but for me he is starting off with a clean slate now after completing rehab. I give him credit for getting himself into counseling and all indications have been he has had a great work ethic since his return. That is all I can ask out of him.
All we can ask is that he plays like an NFL QB and wins some fucking games. So far he hasn't done shit.
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now the pool-side bar is another story............still too many people for my liking.
you know what i've learned? you can't get kicked out of your own house watching your own tv drinking your own drink. (uh wait, i take that back.)
HA!....Hilarious......I bet there's some good there....like she was a bitch AND you got a new TV?.....right?
And I hate crowds too....if I was a rich millionaire, I wouldnt be pool side anywhere or just anywhere public(just not my thing).....Id be 100% awol....completely invisible......probably is some super sleak, super private oasis soaking up the quiet, plush lifestyle......maybe in a remote mountain chalet somewhere....(with everything I need BUT no idiots or prying eyes)
And definitely would be dealing with how to handle my own comfort, babes, food and drinks.....as opposed to dealing with pesky drunk 18yr olds who love me.....
I honestly honestly think "being famous" would completely suck rocks......and THATS why Ive decided to be common instead of world famous.....
I honestly honestly think "being famous" would completely suck rocks......and THATS why Ive decided to be common instead of world famous.....
You too!! Damn I thought I was the only one except maybe Mik. Tour's already living in some Godforsaken place in East Texas. That almost qualifies as Infamous. π₯·
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now the pool-side bar is another story............still too many people for my liking.
you know what i've learned? you can't get kicked out of your own house watching your own tv drinking your own drink. (uh wait, i take that back.)
HA!....Hilarious......I bet there's some good there....like she was a bitch AND you got a new TV?.....right?
And I hate crowds too....if I was a rich millionaire, I wouldnt be pool side anywhere or just anywhere public(just not my thing).....Id be 100% awol....completely invisible......probably is some super sleak, super private oasis soaking up the quiet, plush lifestyle......maybe in a remote mountain chalet somewhere....(with everything I need BUT no idiots or prying eyes)
And definitely would be dealing with how to handle my own comfort, babes, food and drinks.....as opposed to dealing with pesky drunk 18yr olds who love me.....
I honestly honestly think "being famous" would completely suck rocks......and THATS why Ive decided to be common instead of world famous.....
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Yes and that wasn't my "original" post on the topic. Nor was it my first go-to word for what I was describing. I said edge originally IIRC.
Zombo said:
It may not be where you started but you went there all by yourself.
.....It seems like you just think Johnnys cool and took 20 posts to articulate it.....and you assume that since you think JFF is cool, that EVERYBODY else must agree.....(and, somehow, JERSEYS are the proof....cause everybody buys jerseys based upon "cool factor")(which I think is very wrong...normally, its kids who buy based upon cool factor)
The videos you posted are of JFF getting a penalty for running his mouth....and a video of him tea bagging(disrespecting) an opponent....etc.....and then you claim this is edgy bad boy type stuff we should all like and want from our leader... while many of us just consider it childish immature stuff we dont like....see?........
Heck.... there are kids who love Beiber and think he's cool too....and they arent able to understand why so many people mock him......BUT, as they grow up, it becomes more obvious to them......takes time....
In the end....it's about polarity....the traits that make him so popular are the exact same traits that so many hate....
My analogy.....Johnny is like a pair of sagging pants......some think it's super cool......others laugh and think it's stupid.....
And no one will ever agree.......polarity 101......
Talking about Johnny is like debating abortion, climate change, politics and religion.....there are too many delusional extremists on both sides that wont even allow it to be a reasonable discussion....
.....It seems like you just think Johnnys cool and took 20 posts to articulate it.....and you assume that since you think JFF is cool, that EVERYBODY else must agree.....(and, somehow, JERSEYS are the proof....cause everybody buys jerseys based upon "cool factor")(which I think is very wrong...normally, its kids who buy based upon cool factor)
The videos you posted are of JFF getting a penalty for running his mouth....and a video of him tea bagging(disrespecting) an opponent....etc.....and then you claim this is edgy bad boy type stuff we should all like and want from our leader... while many of us just consider it childish immature stuff we dont like....see?........
Heck.... there are kids who love Beiber and think he's cool too....and they arent able to understand why so many people mock him......BUT, as they grow up, it becomes more obvious to them......takes time....
In the end....it's about polarity....the traits that make him so popular are the exact same traits that so many hate....
My analogy.....Johnny is like a pair of sagging pants......some think it's super cool......others laugh and think it's stupid.....
And no one will ever agree.......polarity 101......
Talking about Johnny is like debating abortion, climate change, politics and religion.....there are too many delusional extremists on both sides that wont even allow it to be a reasonable discussion....
It was more than just kids that loved him at A&M.
I posted the clips because Zombo's delusional self tried to act like he was a total wuss on the field (because 6 quarters against 3 quality defenses OBVIOUSLY cancelled out 26 college games).
The average A&M fan....went to A&M. The average NFL fan has a bit less of an academic resume. But we were all just a bunch of little schoolgirls and we can count on the ΓΌber enlightened and mature NFL fans to set us all straight? Come on.
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.....It seems like you just think Johnnys cool and took 20 posts to articulate it.....and you assume that since you think JFF is cool, that EVERYBODY else must agree.....(and, somehow, JERSEYS are the proof....cause everybody buys jerseys based upon "cool factor")(which I think is very wrong...normally, its kids who buy based upon cool factor)
The videos you posted are of JFF getting a penalty for running his mouth....and a video of him tea bagging(disrespecting) an opponent....etc.....and then you claim this is edgy bad boy type stuff we should all like and want from our leader... while many of us just consider it childish immature stuff we dont like....see?........
Heck.... there are kids who love Beiber and think he's cool too....and they arent able to understand why so many people mock him......BUT, as they grow up, it becomes more obvious to them......takes time....
In the end....it's about polarity....the traits that make him so popular are the exact same traits that so many hate....
My analogy.....Johnny is like a pair of sagging pants......some think it's super cool......others laugh and think it's stupid.....
And no one will ever agree.......polarity 101......
Talking about Johnny is like debating abortion, climate change, politics and religion.....there are too many delusional extremists on both sides that wont even allow it to be a reasonable discussion....
It was more than just kids that loved him at A&M.
I posted the clips because Zombo's delusional self tried to act like he was a total wuss on the field (because 6 quarters against 3 quality defenses OBVIOUSLY cancelled out 26 college games).
The average A&M fan....went to A&M. The average NFL fan has a bit less of an academic resume. But we were all just a bunch of little schoolgirls and we can count on the ΓΌber enlightened and mature NFL fans to set us all straight? Come on.
It was more than just kids that loved him at A&M.
I posted the clips because Zombo's delusional self tried to act like he was a total wuss on the field (because 6 quarters against 3 quality defenses OBVIOUSLY cancelled out 26 college games).
The average A&M fan....went to A&M. The average NFL fan has a bit less of an academic resume. But we were all just a bunch of little schoolgirls and we can count on the ΓΌber enlightened and mature NFL fans to set us all straight? Come on.
Jesus, my boss, the manager of inside sales, our R & D manager and a bunch of engineers thought Johnny was finer than sliced bread. I loved watching him both games against 'Bama (loved shutting him out in the second half twice when he played us).
He was stupid last year, one of those wanh wanh they're forcing me to change my style . . . I agree putting a square peg in a round hole won't work. Design the offense around his strengths and turn him loose.
BTW, here's real intelligence, McCown will lead us to the promised land - He might be a Texas boy but he sure don't play QB like one.
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Hey whatever happened to that defensive mastermind that was Johnny kryptonite in college anyway?
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thanks edwardjew.
only way manziel sees the field this year would be due to injury.
what does it mean to play QB like you're from texas, put on some spurs, do a square dance and butt fuck the hairy cheerleaders?
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Hey whatever happened to that defensive mastermind that was Johnny kryptonite in college anyway?
Hey whatever happened to that defensive mastermind that was Johnny kryptonite in college anyway?
He took the money and ran. Maybe he will bring a semblance of a D to Aggieland.
I'm interested in watching what Steele does with what he has to work with.
I'm still worried that Miles will be turned on again by Jennings.
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What were your thoughts on Haley? I wanted him or Orgeron and instead we moved our bum of a LB coach to DT. Insane.
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