Jonathan Paul Manziel
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thanks edwardjew.
only way manziel sees the field this year would be due to injury.
what does it mean to play QB like you're from texas, put on some spurs, do a square dance and butt fuck the hairy cheerleaders?
No dude, it means to play like Drew Brees or Andrew Luck or Andy Dalton Chase Daniel or Nick Foles or RGIII. Oh I'm sorry WAR - Ryan TannehillThe Browns have had 3 (losers), both McCowns and that idiot from U.T.
BTW, the A & M cheerleaders are probably the hottest and quite possibly the loosest in college football.I can say that and I went to LSU.
BTW, the A & M cheerleaders are probably the hottest and quite possibly the loosest in college football.I can say that
I might be wrong, but arent they all men?
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bruce jenner type men.
and doesn't A and M stand for ass and munch?
(sorry AG and wargo...hee hee).
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BTW, the A & M cheerleaders are probably the hottest and quite possibly the loosest in college football.I can say that
I might be wrong, but arent they all men?
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bruce jenner type men.
and doesn't A and M stand for ass and munch?
(sorry AG and wargo...hee hee).
bruce jenner type men.
and doesn't A and M stand for ass and munch?
(sorry AG and wargo...hee hee).
Don't need to be sorry to me. I'm one of the few old men that think having Ice Cream Men (they dress in all white ice cream men uniforms and all they need is a cap) as cheerleaders is a throwback to the middle ages. We need to hire Kate Upton to choose our cheerleaders for us,.
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I agree....There are some who would want that and actually feel good about it...just so they can say "I told you so".....but I think they are the minority////
Most of us would be elated if he played well.....and even more so if he did it with some class and professionalism....
I agree....There are some who would want that and actually feel good about it...just so they can say "I told you so".....but I think they are the minority////
Most of us would be elated if he played well.....and even more so if he did it with some class and professionalism....
I hope you're right and hell I could be wrong but I just don't get that vibe as much as you do. It doesn't matter though when Thad "the champ" Lewis beats everyone else out and leads us to the promise land. Right? Anyone?
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bruce jenner type men.
and doesn't A and M stand for ass and munch?
(sorry AG and wargo...hee hee).
Don't need to be sorry to me. I'm one of the few old men that think having Ice Cream Men (they dress in all white ice cream men uniforms and all they need is a cap) as cheerleaders is a throwback to the middle ages. We need to hire Kate Upton to choose our cheerleaders for us,.
Don't need to be sorry to me. I'm one of the few old men that think having Ice Cream Men (they dress in all white ice cream men uniforms and all they need is a cap) as cheerleaders is a throwback to the middle ages. We need to hire Kate Upton to choose our cheerleaders for us,.
So letting a civilian become a Yell Leader wasn't enough for you?
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I agree....There are some who would want that and actually feel good about it...just so they can say "I told you so".....but I think they are the minority////
Most of us would be elated if he played well.....and even more so if he did it with some class and professionalism....
I hope you're right and hell I could be wrong but I just don't get that vibe as much as you do. It doesn't matter though when Thad "the champ" Lewis beats everyone else out and leads us to the promise land. Right? Anyone?
I hope you're right and hell I could be wrong but I just don't get that vibe as much as you do. It doesn't matter though when Thad "the champ" Lewis beats everyone else out and leads us to the promise land. Right? Anyone?
I like Connor Shaw but his negative is lack of arm strength. I have read a couple articles on working on improving throwing strength and some say it can be developed through training while others say it basically is something after a certain age you either have it or you don't.
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I hope you're right and hell I could be wrong but I just don't get that vibe as much as you do. It doesn't matter though when Thad "the champ" Lewis beats everyone else out and leads us to the promise land. Right? Anyone?
I like Connor Shaw but his negative is lack of arm strength. I have read a couple articles on working on improving throwing strength and some say it can be developed through training while others say it basically is something after a certain age you either have it or you don't.
I like Connor Shaw but his negative is lack of arm strength. I have read a couple articles on working on improving throwing strength and some say it can be developed through training while others say it basically is something after a certain age you either have it or you don't.
Arm strength is a combination of things, some of which can be taught, some can't. You need wrist snap, you need shoulder and elbow snap - you can train your quick-twitch muscles to some degree, but some people just have more aptitude than others. You can train all your life and not crack a 10-second 100m; Usain Bolt can train one day a week and do that for the next 5 years easy.
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I like Connor Shaw but his negative is lack of arm strength. I have read a couple articles on working on improving throwing strength and some say it can be developed through training while others say it basically is something after a certain age you either have it or you don't.
Arm strength is a combination of things, some of which can be taught, some can't. You need wrist snap, you need shoulder and elbow snap - you can train your quick-twitch muscles to some degree, but some people just have more aptitude than others. You can train all your life and not crack a 10-second 100m; Usain Bolt can train one day a week and do that for the next 5 years easy.
Arm strength is a combination of things, some of which can be taught, some can't. You need wrist snap, you need shoulder and elbow snap - you can train your quick-twitch muscles to some degree, but some people just have more aptitude than others. You can train all your life and not crack a 10-second 100m; Usain Bolt can train one day a week and do that for the next 5 years easy.
agreed....its about way more than strength.....
Id think it was a lot like swinging a ball bat or golf club....motion and speed control distance as much or more than pure strength
A natural motion will get you more power than any weight training will.....and I think it's hard to develop that.....
I love Connor Shaw...but am willing to accept he likely wont suddenly develop the physical tools needed to be a great passer......
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Arm strength is a combination of things, some of which can be taught, some can't. You need wrist snap, you need shoulder and elbow snap - you can train your quick-twitch muscles to some degree, but some people just have more aptitude than others. You can train all your life and not crack a 10-second 100m; Usain Bolt can train one day a week and do that for the next 5 years easy.
agreed....its about way more than strength.....
Id think it was a lot like swinging a ball bat or golf club....motion and speed control distance as much or more than pure strength
A natural motion will get you more power than any weight training will.....and I think it's hard to develop that.....
I love Connor Shaw...but am willing to accept he likely wont suddenly develop the physical tools needed to be a great passer......
agreed....its about way more than strength.....
Id think it was a lot like swinging a ball bat or golf club....motion and speed control distance as much or more than pure strength
A natural motion will get you more power than any weight training will.....and I think it's hard to develop that.....
I love Connor Shaw...but am willing to accept he likely wont suddenly develop the physical tools needed to be a great passer......
I'd take a clone of Brian Hoyer though, he could be an excellent backup to JFF in a few years...
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Kinda feel for Hoyer right now......Last year, he was so preoccupied and discombobulated by JFF and the high profile QB competition that he couldn't just settle in an focus....and now, somehow, he's gotten himself back into another one.....and it's on hard knocks to boot.....ha!
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Kinda feel for Hoyer right now......Last year, he was so preoccupied and discombobulated by JFF and the high profile QB competition that he couldn't just settle in an focus....and now, somehow, he's gotten himself back into another one.....and it's on hard knocks to boot.....ha!
Kinda feel for Hoyer right now......Last year, he was so preoccupied and discombobulated by JFF and the high profile QB competition that he couldn't just settle in an focus....and now, somehow, he's gotten himself back into another one.....and it's on hard knocks to boot.....ha!
Oh that slipped by me! I saw it was the texans, but didn't register that it was Hoyer vs Mallett. Should be interesting.
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.....It seems like you just think Johnnys cool and took 20 posts to articulate it.....and you assume that since you think JFF is cool, that EVERYBODY else must agree.....(and, somehow, JERSEYS are the proof....cause everybody buys jerseys based upon "cool factor")(which I think is very wrong...normally, its kids who buy based upon cool factor)
The videos you posted are of JFF getting a penalty for running his mouth....and a video of him tea bagging(disrespecting) an opponent....etc.....and then you claim this is edgy bad boy type stuff we should all like and want from our leader... while many of us just consider it childish immature stuff we dont like....see?........
Heck.... there are kids who love Beiber and think he's cool too....and they arent able to understand why so many people mock him......BUT, as they grow up, it becomes more obvious to them......takes time....
In the end....it's about polarity....the traits that make him so popular are the exact same traits that so many hate....
My analogy.....Johnny is like a pair of sagging pants......some think it's super cool......others laugh and think it's stupid.....
And no one will ever agree.......polarity 101......
Talking about Johnny is like debating abortion, climate change, politics and religion.....there are too many delusional extremists on both sides that wont even allow it to be a reasonable discussion....
It was more than just kids that loved him at A&M.
I posted the clips because Zombo's delusional self tried to act like he was a total wuss on the field (because 6 quarters against 3 quality defenses OBVIOUSLY cancelled out 26 college games).
The average A&M fan....went to A&M. The average NFL fan has a bit less of an academic resume. But we were all just a bunch of little schoolgirls and we can count on the รผber enlightened and mature NFL fans to set us all straight? Come on.
I posted the clips because Zombo's delusional self tried to act like he was a total wuss on the field
What? What did I say about him on the field?
Zombo
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I posted the clips because Zombo's delusional self tried to act like he was a total wuss on the field
What? What did I say about him on the field?
Zombo
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I hope you're right and hell I could be wrong but I just don't get that vibe as much as you do. It doesn't matter though when Thad "the champ" Lewis beats everyone else out and leads us to the promise land. Right? Anyone?
I like Connor Shaw but his negative is lack of arm strength. I have read a couple articles on working on improving throwing strength and some say it can be developed through training while others say it basically is something after a certain age you either have it or you don't.
I like Connor Shaw but his negative is lack of arm strength. I have read a couple articles on working on improving throwing strength and some say it can be developed through training while others say it basically is something after a certain age you either have it or you don't.
I'm definitely on the latter side of that equation for sure. College is the time to figure out mechanics, hone arm strength and develop footwork. It's very rare (and I'm sure there's instances before someone spouts it off) that QB's drastically increase arm strength in the NFL. Shaw is who he is and I think he's got the makings to be a journeyman back-up, but that's it.
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Don't need to be sorry to me. I'm one of the few old men that think having Ice Cream Men (they dress in all white ice cream men uniforms and all they need is a cap) as cheerleaders is a throwback to the middle ages. We need to hire Kate Upton to choose our cheerleaders for us,.
So letting a civilian become a Yell Leader wasn't enough for you?
So letting a civilian become a Yell Leader wasn't enough for you?
Not a difficult choice at all for me.
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Johnny Manziel will be MVP.................
.400+ hitter and infielder in HS who was a late rounder for San Diego Padres (not Chargers). LOL!
All kidding aside-I really like Joe Haden-the team leader in so many ways for the Browns both on and off the field!!
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Johnny Manziel will be MVP.................
.400+ hitter and infielder in HS who was a late rounder for San Diego Padres (not Chargers). LOL!
All kidding aside-I really like Joe Haden-the team leader in so many ways for the Browns both on and off the field!!
All kidding aside-I really like Joe Haden-the team leader in so many ways for the Browns both on and off the field!!
Everybody likes Haden!.....(Im pretty sure)......and Joe Thomas too......which, I think, is the point we are all trying to make.....
WHY?......first, because they are great players......BUT what makes them REALLY loved is that they are class guys......total professionals....civic minded.....active in the community....and GREAT team mates......(on top of being great players)...
Haden is in the news almost daily.....highly visible...a pretty stylish playa.....at all the Cavs games....on social media....etc etc etc and it's ALWAYS good.....always.....
Yet, I keep hearing we should embrace(and actually prefer) the bad boy thing .........
Given the choice, who wouldn't prefer a player with the "whole package" over one who plays great, but detracts in other ways????
Examples.....(assuming the players were about equal and I know some arent)...but who would you prefer...
a guy like T.O..... or Jerry Rice?
a guy like A. Suh.. or AJ Watt?
a guy like Manziel...or Russell Wilson?
a guy like M. Lynch....or Walter Payton?
And Ive heard "if he plays great, then suddenly you'll all love him"......well, I remember Albert Belle all too well......I did like his homers, but never liked him.....and never was a "fan" of his......all my love goes to Thome......why?.....cause I LIKED him and he played great....thats why........no love for Bell though....and he played GREAT!.....why?...because he was an asshole and constantly embarrassed his team, our city and fans.......over and over again......
Look....Cleveland is has been a whipping boy for decades....especially the Browns ....we dont need it anymore and JFF adds to the "clevelands a joke" thing on a weekly(or mnthly) basis.....
So, excuse me if I dont get excited about the prospect of my QB(great or not) teabagging opposing players.....talking back to refs.....and generally being a rooster on AND off the field........especially one who is unwilling to sacrifice his personal fun time to achieving at a career most of could only dream of.....
So, for the ones who love him "no matter what" .....be prepared for some to still not like him, even if he gets great, unless he learns some of the people skills that guys like Thomas and Haden have.........
You all act so freaking upset that people talk about him, yet THAT was the whole issue coming in from day #1....shoulda seen this coming, cause we did.....you got your boy, but just dont want to deal with the stink we all knew was swirling around him......
Remember Charlie Browns buddy Pigpen?...probably a nice guy with good traits, but man, peeee yewwww.......
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I posted the clips because Zombo's delusional self tried to act like he was a total wuss on the field
What? What did I say about him on the field?
Zombo
Zombo said:
What? What did I say about him on the field?
Zombo
"You know he's not a real "bad boy", right? Real bad boys don't "flip off" guys, go to rehab and throw water bottles.
Bad boys drink tequila, shit fire, fuck your wife, and don't explain anything.
IF, they throw something ... it's not water, it doesn't happen at a country club pool, it's not at a 18 year old boy, and they don't miss."
Let me guess "that's not about him on the field"? You are a semantics and hair splitting legend.
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If the talent level is about equal (as you stipulated), I'll take Lynch over Payton all day. Fun dude to watch. Wilson is really good. Love him on the field. but yes he is really boring off it.
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