Browns trade for Pro-bowl punter
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Lanning finished 17th in the NFL last season with 39.2 net yards per kick. Lee finished 15th in that category with a net of 39.6 yards.
Looks like we gained 18 inches.
So in essence we drafted a 32 yo punter. While we needed to upgrade the position, I'm not sure about the route we took.
Lanning finished 17th in the NFL last season with 39.2 net yards per kick. Lee finished 15th in that category with a net of 39.6 yards.
Looks like we gained 18 inches.
English major?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Lanning finished 17th in the NFL last season with 39.2 net yards per kick. Lee finished 15th in that category with a net of 39.6 yards.
Looks like we gained 18 inches.
Lanning finished 17th in the NFL last season with 39.2 net yards per kick. Lee finished 15th in that category with a net of 39.6 yards.
Looks like we gained 18 inches.
ahhh, but thats net yardage.....more of a coverage stat than a kickers stat....
Lee actually had a net of 40.2 vs Lannings 39.2 (a full yard).....then add to that the difference in special teams coverage(which is really what net yardage is about.....coverage)....
Browns allowed 5 yds avg VS SF allowing 7.5 yds avg.....giving him +2,5 yds more.... meaning we gained 3.5 yds(which is a lot actually)......
Lee way out distances him in yards per kick...and more importantly...hang time.......and now it's up to our special team gunners to make sure they dont bring it back......
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So in essence we drafted a 32 yo punter. While we needed to upgrade the position, I'm not sure about the route we took.
Lanning finished 17th in the NFL last season with 39.2 net yards per kick. Lee finished 15th in that category with a net of 39.6 yards.
Looks like we gained 18 inches.
English major?
So in essence we drafted a 32 yo punter. While we needed to upgrade the position, I'm not sure about the route we took.
Oh damn....perspective......I hate when you do that.....
I guess spending a draft pick on punter isnt always a great idea.....especially an old punter......but, if you want to win now AND you know the punter is already one of the better ones in the league.....then?.....I say ok......
Honestly think there is still another trade in the tank....dont know why, but I do......and instead of getting more players,we will recoup a pick or 2 for the future perhaps......
Thinking it's possible for a DL or RB to be moving on before it's all said and done.....
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Lanning finished 17th in the NFL last season with 39.2 net yards per kick. Lee finished 15th in that category with a net of 39.6 yards.
Looks like we gained 18 inches.
ahhh, but thats net yardage.....more of a coverage stat than a kickers stat....
Lee actually had a net of 40.2 vs Lannings 39.2 (a full yard).....then add to that the difference in special teams coverage(which is really what net yardage is about.....coverage)....
Browns allowed 5 yds avg VS SF allowing 7.5 yds avg.....giving him +2,5 yds more.... meaning we gained 3.5 yds(which is a lot actually)......
Lee way out distances him in yards per kick...and more importantly...hang time.......and now it's up to our special team gunners to make sure they dont bring it back......
Browns allowed 5 yds avg VS SF allowing 7.5 yds avg.....giving him +2,5 yds more.... meaning we gained 3.5 yds(which is a lot actually)......
And we punted 93 times, so that is 325 yards.
In reality, we picked a better all-around veteran punter on the downside of his career.
I'm OK with a 7th rounder to upgrade the position for a year or two.
Zombo
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LOL... Usually you're the one handing out doses of reality.
Farmer can recoup a 7th anytime he wants to and not hurt his draft at all, and Punters often punt effectively into their mid-thirties.
Better?
EDIT: Plus if his pattern holds he won't have a punt blocked the next two years.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LeexAn20.htm
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
LOL... Usually you're the one handing out doses of reality.
Farmer can recoup a 7th anytime he wants to and not hurt his draft at all, and Punters often punt effectively into their mid-thirties.
Better?
EDIT: Plus if his pattern holds he won't have a punt blocked the next two years.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LeexAn20.htm
LOL... Usually you're the one handing out doses of reality.
Farmer can recoup a 7th anytime he wants to and not hurt his draft at all, and Punters often punt effectively into their mid-thirties.
Better?
Ha!....yes, better....
When you think about it.....Farmer has completely revamped the skill positions on the kicking squads......
New punter.....new place kicker......new long snapper......and new holder.......plus, just watched a Dawg Pound Report and they said the Browns are working on getting some different guys returning kicks.....OH JOY!!!!!!
OTA's had Tramon Williams, Benji and Duke as the punt returners......and Gilbert, Duke and Benji as the kick returners....so....Oh joy again!!!
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Browns allowed 5 yds avg VS SF allowing 7.5 yds avg.....giving him +2,5 yds more.... meaning we gained 3.5 yds(which is a lot actually)......
And we punted 93 times, so that is 325 yards.
In reality, we picked a better all-around veteran punter on the downside of his career.
I'm OK with a 7th rounder to upgrade the position for a year or two.
Zombo
Zombo said:
And we punted 93 times, so that is 325 yards.
And, ironically, we had 5200 yds of total offense last year......divide that by 16 games = 325 yds per game of offense(exactly)...
Which means, just by switching punters, we have in literally gained a full games worth of offense(and field position).....
To me....that sounds a lot better than 18".....
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Any position on the field can change games. I was sick of Lanning, so good move. Anybody want to kick for us?
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So in essence we drafted a 32 yo punter. While we needed to upgrade the position, I'm not sure about the route we took.
Lanning finished 17th in the NFL last season with 39.2 net yards per kick. Lee finished 15th in that category with a net of 39.6 yards.
Looks like we gained 18 inches.
English major?
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To use a late round pick to objectively upgrade a position is fine with me no matter the position played. Sure this might be a 2-4 year deal but there's not much downside to this at all.
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Zombo said:
And we punted 93 times, so that is 325 yards.
And, ironically, we had 5200 yds of total offense last year......divide that by 16 games = 325 yds per game of offense(exactly)...
Which means, just by switching punters, we have in literally gained a full games worth of offense(and field position).....
To me....that sounds a lot better than 18".....
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Punter Spencer Lanning tweets classy message to Browns fans after being released
That was a nice gesture and wishing the best for him in the future.
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Punter Spencer Lanning tweets classy message to Browns fans after being released
That was a nice gesture and wishing the best for him in the future.
Punter Spencer Lanning tweets classy message to Browns fans after being released
That was a nice gesture and wishing the best for him in the future.
Lanning hasn't been awful, I feel pretty good he'll get picked up by another team in training camp.
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Verifies what one of the guys on NFL Network was saying couple of day ago after that last retirement, SF is falling apart and "it's not over yet". Must have had inside information on this trade coming.
Verifies what one of the guys on NFL Network was saying couple of day ago after that last retirement, SF is falling apart and "it's not over yet". Must have had inside information on this trade coming.
Great on Farmers or Tabor's part IMO. 49'ers drafted a punter in the 5th ROUND when they had a 3 time Pro Bowler at that position. Good move on their part to see the red flag and Deal..
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Because we plan on punting early and often.
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Because we plan on punting early and often.
Because we plan on punting early and often.
Can Mccown do what he is being called on doing being a game manager? I think he can. He will have one of the best O lines in the league which is a huge boost to any qb. He will have some good running backs. If the Browns establish a running game it will open everything else up. We are counting on ball control and conrolling the time of possession. Too many 3 and outs and no matter how good our defense is they will get worn down. If Lee's punting can pin opposing team's offenses in bad field position that is only going to benefit our defense. If other teams try stacking the line to stop our run game and force us to throw I think this team with McCown has the ability to make them pay for it. It is not like we won't have any passing game.
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Can we get one with a 7th round pick?
It would have to be a high 7th
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LOL... Usually you're the one handing out doses of reality.
Farmer can recoup a 7th anytime he wants to and not hurt his draft at all, and Punters often punt effectively into their mid-thirties.
Better?
Ha!....yes, better....
When you think about it.....Farmer has completely revamped the skill positions on the kicking squads......
New punter.....new place kicker......new long snapper......and new holder.......plus, just watched a Dawg Pound Report and they said the Browns are working on getting some different guys returning kicks.....OH JOY!!!!!!
OTA's had Tramon Williams, Benji and Duke as the punt returners......and Gilbert, Duke and Benji as the kick returners....so....Oh joy again!!!
lol...
New punter.....new place kicker......new long snapper......and new holder.......plus, just watched a Dawg Pound Report and they said the Browns are working on getting some different guys returning kicks.....OH JOY!!!!!!
OTA's had Tramon Williams, Benji and Duke as the punt returners......and Gilbert, Duke and Benji as the kick returners....so....Oh joy again!!!
Definitely more attention being paid to the 3rd phase this year.
I just like stronger guys returning kicks... Duke - yes; Gilbert/ Benji - not so much.
LOL....ok....I see the mistake....3.6 is the factor. Actually, History. Anything but math, so point taken.
You're a good sport...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Because we plan on punting early and often.
Can Mccown do what he is being called on doing being a game manager? I think he can. He will have one of the best O lines in the league which is a huge boost to any qb. He will have some good running backs. If the Browns establish a running game it will open everything else up. We are counting on ball control and conrolling the time of possession. Too many 3 and outs and no matter how good our defense is they will get worn down. If Lee's punting can pin opposing team's offenses in bad field position that is only going to benefit our defense. If other teams try stacking the line to stop our run game and force us to throw I think this team with McCown has the ability to make them pay for it. It is not like we won't have any passing game.
Can Mccown do what he is being called on doing being a game manager? I think he can. He will have one of the best O lines in the league which is a huge boost to any qb. He will have some good running backs. If the Browns establish a running game it will open everything else up. We are counting on ball control and conrolling the time of possession. Too many 3 and outs and no matter how good our defense is they will get worn down. If Lee's punting can pin opposing team's offenses in bad field position that is only going to benefit our defense. If other teams try stacking the line to stop our run game and force us to throw I think this team with McCown has the ability to make them pay for it. It is not like we won't have any passing game.
The faith that I have is moreso in our offensive line, runningbacks and offensive coordinator. I think McCown can have a season somewhere between what we saw in Chicago and what we saw in Tampa, but I don't expect even lower-level greatness out of him. I expect a very similar performance to what we saw from Hoyer, although McCown will be working to groom Manziel more than Hoyer ever did...and that's where his benefit lies.
People like to credit our offensive line and say "why can't McCown have a Chicago-like season?"
The answer - we don't have Forte, Alshon, Marshall and Bennett.
We may have equivalent talent in Johnson, Mayle and Housler, but that's top level homerism at it's finest. I expect Housler to surprise, I expect Mayle to develop into a receiver akin to what Greg Little could have been, and I think Johnson has the ability to become a very dynamic receiving back ( a la Forte). But I don't expect that this year.
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