Redskins lose Trademark Registration
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It's a myth that they're "peeved off" about it. They've never even complained about it until a couple years ago when this entire hubbub started. To grant their request now would be to implicitly grant license to anyone to begin complaining about anything NFL-related with the knowledge that the NFL will soon enough cave.
Page 1 of the liberal playbook: complain until you get your way. No coincidence these are the same techniques used by small children.
No one cares except the rainbow warrior crowd.
So you've talked to many Native Americans and asked their opinion on it? So I should tell my Native American friends who, ya know, live and work with other Native Americans and have always been opposed to the slur they don't actually feel that way? Get your head out of your ass for 2 seconds and realize the world is a big place. Just because you feel like it shouldn't offend anyone doesn't mean jack shit. It's not "liberal" or "PC" to change things that marginalize huge groups of people, it's the right thing to do.
Fuck you and your 'native american friends'. I don't give a rats ass.
Fuck you and your 'native american friends'. I don't give a rats ass.
....Thank you, my friend for putting my point exactly into words.
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Hey look... they're taking down the Army of Northern Virginia battle flag at the South Carolina state capitol as I type this.
Times change folks.
Movements that dare consider the rights/needs/sensibilities of others tend to gain support over time.
Always have...
Always will.
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Hey look... they're taking down the Army of Northern Virginia battle flag at the South Carolina state capitol as I type this.
Times change folks.
Movements that dare consider the rights/needs/sensibilities of others tend to gain support over time.
Always have...
Always will.
Hey look... they're taking down the Army of Northern Virginia battle flag at the South Carolina state capitol as I type this.
Times change folks.
Movements that dare consider the rights/needs/sensibilities of others tend to gain support over time.
Always have...
Always will.
And they changed your original posting of Sweet Home Alabama so the cover no longer has the Confederate Battle Flag. PC has lost it entirely.
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Lyrics to the A&M 12th Man song have changed now too, "Texas Agriculturalists down In agricultural land, we've got agricultural spirit to a man/woman/child/transexual/gay/lesbian/etc."
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Haven't had time to read the whole thread, but being the PC antagonistic Bastard that I am I'm tempted to load up on the Red Skins gear and bandy it about here in Liberal PC Seahawk land just tweak their PC asses . . .
I F'n' hate PC Bullshit, and this reeks of it . . . .
Shit is Shit, and sugar coating doesn't change that . . . GTFO'er it . . . it's just like the stupid Confederate Flag Bullshit running down in S.C. - it wasn't about Slavery dumb asses, get over it.
Talk about Waggin' The Fuckin' Dog to misdirect the masses . . .
If I tweaked your noses with my (Liberal) comments . . . I'm seriously not sorry,
I'v had the BS Opened Minded (so much that their Brains have fallen out) Bullshit rammed down my throat in both Madison WI & here in WA that I just can't get over how stupid people are . . .
Zombo, if you want to delete my Account over this, feel free . . . enough is enough.
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JAF, I've actually thought about getting Redskins gear too.
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could be a great investment......buy some stuff with the name on it and just stash it away.....might become a rare collectible....
could be a great investment......buy some stuff with the name on it and just stash it away.....might become a rare collectible....
Not in our lifetime, Redskins gear has been around for decades, it'll be a looonnnngggg time before it becomes rare.
I'd think it would be more likely for the beanie baby market to swing back around.
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I've been watching Treme lately. Boy I hope the Native Americans never come against Mardi Gras.
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Haven't had time to read the whole thread, but being the PC antagonistic Bastard that I am I'm tempted to load up on the Red Skins gear and bandy it about here in Liberal PC Seahawk land just tweak their PC asses . . .
I F'n' hate PC Bullshit, and this reeks of it . . . .
Shit is Shit, and sugar coating doesn't change that . . . GTFO'er it . . . it's just like the stupid Confederate Flag Bullshit running down in S.C. - it wasn't about Slavery dumb asses, get over it.
Talk about Waggin' The Fuckin' Dog to misdirect the masses . . .
If I tweaked your noses with my (Liberal) comments . . . I'm seriously not sorry,
I'v had the BS Opened Minded (so much that their Brains have fallen out) Bullshit rammed down my throat in both Madison WI & here in WA that I just can't get over how stupid people are . . .
Zombo, if you want to delete my Account over this, feel free . . . enough is enough.
Haven't had time to read the whole thread, but being the PC antagonistic Bastard that I am I'm tempted to load up on the Red Skins gear and bandy it about here in Liberal PC Seahawk land just tweak their PC asses . . .
I F'n' hate PC Bullshit, and this reeks of it . . . .
Shit is Shit, and sugar coating doesn't change that . . . GTFO'er it . . . it's just like the stupid Confederate Flag Bullshit running down in S.C. - it wasn't about Slavery dumb asses, get over it.
Talk about Waggin' The Fuckin' Dog to misdirect the masses . . .
If I tweaked your noses with my (Liberal) comments . . . I'm seriously not sorry,
I'v had the BS Opened Minded (so much that their Brains have fallen out) Bullshit rammed down my throat in both Madison WI & here in WA that I just can't get over how stupid people are . . .
Zombo, if you want to delete my Account over this, feel free . . . enough is enough.
Because you don't like PC bullshit?
You're going to have to a lot better than that to get deleted.
Zombo
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Here's the question. Does anyone here believe when the professional football team was named the Redskins it was in order to make fun of, demean or belittle a race of people or do you believe that name was chosen because they wished to associate their team with a proud strong and noble group? Pick one.
WSS
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They chose the Redskins name as an honor. If American Indians were offended though I would be for removing the Redskins name even if the purpose was to honor them. I want to be respectful but the polling data I saw showed about 90 percent of American Indians were not offended over the Redskins name so if they are not offended I don't care about non Indians who take up the offended cause for them.
In 2004, the National Annenberg Election Survey asked 768 people who identified themselves as Indian whether they found the name “Washington Redskins” offensive. Almost 90 percent said it did not bother them.
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Here's the question. Does anyone here believe when the professional football team was named the Redskins it was in order to make fun of, demean or belittle a race of people or do you believe that name was chosen because they wished to associate their team with a proud strong and noble group? Pick one.
WSS
Here's the question. Does anyone here believe when the professional football team was named the Redskins it was in order to make fun of, demean or belittle a race of people or do you believe that name was chosen because they wished to associate their team with a proud strong and noble group? Pick one.
WSS
The guy that chose the name: George Preston Marshall.....was an avowed racist. He did not allow black players onto his team until the 60s when the Civil Rights Act was passed and he was threatened with being disallowed to play in the government owned stadium there in DC. He acquiesced, but it was not done voluntarily.
And by all accounts, despite what he says, I do not think his attitude toward Native Americans was any better than his attitude toward blacks.
So.....yes, given who chose the name.....there certainly theoretically could have been a racist element to the selection....but you are right, it seems incongruous that he would purposely choose a demeaning name. It is likely he did so out of ignorance more than anything else.
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They chose the Redskins name as an honor. If American Indians were offended though I would be for removing the Redskins name even if the purpose was to honor them. I want to be respectful but the polling data I saw showed about 90 percent of American Indians were not offended over the Redskins name so if they are not offended I don't care about non Indians who take up the offended cause for them.
In 2004, the National Annenberg Election Survey asked 768 people who identified themselves as Indian whether they found the name “Washington Redskins” offensive. Almost 90 percent said it did not bother them.
They chose the Redskins name as an honor. If American Indians were offended though I would be for removing the Redskins name even if the purpose was to honor them. I want to be respectful but the polling data I saw showed about 90 percent of American Indians were not offended over the Redskins name so if they are not offended I don't care about non Indians who take up the offended cause for them.
In 2004, the National Annenberg Election Survey asked 768 people who identified themselves as Indian whether they found the name “Washington Redskins” offensive. Almost 90 percent said it did not bother them.
That may mean simply that they did not take umbrage to the name....not that it is not offensive.
Example.....it really doesn't bother me if someone were to call me a Honky, Cracker or some such because I am white. Or that they would call me a Mick because I am of Irish descent.
Just because I do not take offense...does not mean that it is not offensive.
Again, remember, if you buy the theory that the Browns are named for Joe Louis the Brown Bomber then you are accepting that "our" team too is essentially the "Brownskins"
Fortuneatly we have an out by saying it is really named after Paul Brown...not Joe Louis. (and it probably really is named after Paul Brown....but the counter theory exists.
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They chose the Redskins name as an honor. If American Indians were offended though I would be for removing the Redskins name even if the purpose was to honor them. I want to be respectful but the polling data I saw showed about 90 percent of American Indians were not offended over the Redskins name so if they are not offended I don't care about non Indians who take up the offended cause for them.
In 2004, the National Annenberg Election Survey asked 768 people who identified themselves as Indian whether they found the name “Washington Redskins” offensive. Almost 90 percent said it did not bother them.
They chose the Redskins name as an honor. If American Indians were offended though I would be for removing the Redskins name even if the purpose was to honor them. I want to be respectful but the polling data I saw showed about 90 percent of American Indians were not offended over the Redskins name so if they are not offended I don't care about non Indians who take up the offended cause for them.
In 2004, the National Annenberg Election Survey asked 768 people who identified themselves as Indian whether they found the name “Washington Redskins” offensive. Almost 90 percent said it did not bother them.
Just so you know, that study has been HEAVILY criticized and really, to me anyway, is largely irrelevant. Here's a pretty practical article that really highlights that:
A more recent (and more complete) study found that 67% find it offensive, and only 20% disagreeing:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/lindseyadler/native-americans-offended-by-racial-slur#.ut9Kg9GOKn
To repeat myself here, I wouldn't even argue that the world is over correcting some to a PC society. However, I will never be opposed to names, landmarks or other materials that lend themselves to overtly racist principles being removed.
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Haven't had time to read the whole thread, but being the PC antagonistic Bastard that I am I'm tempted to load up on the Red Skins gear and bandy it about here in Liberal PC Seahawk land just tweak their PC asses . . .
I F'n' hate PC Bullshit, and this reeks of it . . . .
Shit is Shit, and sugar coating doesn't change that . . . GTFO'er it . . . it's just like the stupid Confederate Flag Bullshit running down in S.C. - it wasn't about Slavery dumb asses, get over it.
Talk about Waggin' The Fuckin' Dog to misdirect the masses . . .
If I tweaked your noses with my (Liberal) comments . . . I'm seriously not sorry,
I'v had the BS Opened Minded (so much that their Brains have fallen out) Bullshit rammed down my throat in both Madison WI & here in WA that I just can't get over how stupid people are . . .
Zombo, if you want to delete my Account over this, feel free . . . enough is enough.
Because you don't like PC bullshit?
You're going to have to a lot better than that to get deleted.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Because you don't like PC bullshit?
You're going to have to a lot better than that to get deleted.
Zombo
Thanks Zombo, I can always count on you for a laugh when I need one.
But to the comment, you can never tell if folks in the area have sense or not.
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Here's the question. Does anyone here believe when the professional football team was named the Redskins it was in order to make fun of, demean or belittle a race of people or do you believe that name was chosen because they wished to associate their team with a proud strong and noble group? Pick one.
WSS
The guy that chose the name: George Preston Marshall.....was an avowed racist. He did not allow black players onto his team until the 60s when the Civil Rights Act was passed and he was threatened with being disallowed to play in the government owned stadium there in DC. He acquiesced, but it was not done voluntarily.
And by all accounts, despite what he says, I do not think his attitude toward Native Americans was any better than his attitude toward blacks.
So.....yes, given who chose the name.....there certainly theoretically could have been a racist element to the selection....but you are right, it seems incongruous that he would purposely choose a demeaning name. It is likely he did so out of ignorance more than anything else.
Of course you're assuming that the guy who didn't like blacks would also dislike Indians, correct? So it doesn't sound reasonable he would pick that name for something that meant a lot to him like a football team. I don't think those two prejudices necessarily go hand in hand.The guy that chose the name: George Preston Marshall.....was an avowed racist. He did not allow black players onto his team until the 60s when the Civil Rights Act was passed and he was threatened with being disallowed to play in the government owned stadium there in DC. He acquiesced, but it was not done voluntarily.
And by all accounts, despite what he says, I do not think his attitude toward Native Americans was any better than his attitude toward blacks.
So.....yes, given who chose the name.....there certainly theoretically could have been a racist element to the selection....but you are right, it seems incongruous that he would purposely choose a demeaning name. It is likely he did so out of ignorance more than anything else.
And the Joe Lewis Cleveland Browns hook just sounds ridiculous to me.
The Brown Bommber might make sense had there actually been any black people on the team and somebody really wanted to honor Joe but...
WSS
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