Is this a good Omen?
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After having rewatched our first 5 games from last year (also known as "the healthy Alex Mack period"), I find it hard to believe McCown is going to be better than Hoyer was during that stretch. Yes he had some terrible throws, but he really did flash some brilliance. I kind of question why we cut him after watching these games, honestly.
After having rewatched our first 5 games from last year (also known as "the healthy Alex Mack period"), I find it hard to believe McCown is going to be better than Hoyer was during that stretch. Yes he had some terrible throws, but he really did flash some brilliance. I kind of question why we cut him after watching these games, honestly.
He wasn't cut. He left as a free agent. With the right deal the Browns very well may have kept him.
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One quality I liked about Hoyer was that he had an ability to lead the team back from a deficit. Hoyer also made a big impression on me when he started in the 2013 season after Weeden got hurt and the same offense which under Weeden was struggling suddenly looked good under Hoyer and the Browns reeled off 3 straight wins until Hoyer got injured and was out for the rest of the season and the team faltered after that and won only one more game the rest of the season.
I hated to see Hoyer let go but I see why the Browns did and brought in McCown. As much as I liked Hoyer I didn't see him as the long term answer. McCown is a bridge quarterback capable of being a game managing qb and will go out of his way to help develop Manziel.
One quality I liked about Hoyer was that he had an ability to lead the team back from a deficit. Hoyer also made a big impression on me when he started in the 2013 season after Weeden got hurt and the same offense which under Weeden was struggling suddenly looked good under Hoyer and the Browns reeled off 3 straight wins until Hoyer got injured and was out for the rest of the season and the team faltered after that and won only one more game the rest of the season.
I hated to see Hoyer let go but I see why the Browns did and brought in McCown. As much as I liked Hoyer I didn't see him as the long term answer. McCown is a bridge quarterback capable of being a game managing qb and will go out of his way to help develop Manziel.
Or the next kid in line of JMZ can't cut it.....which is clearly a 50/50 proposition right now.
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Hoyer: In his Home State, was no way going to mentor any QB in his career at this point after sitting behind Brady and Weedon, why the hell should he? Manziel did himself in last season and Hoyer as a FA did the right thing for himself. Going into this season, QB is the question mark and Hoyer and Josh would look better than Josh, JM and Shaw but here we are. IMO I still hate the Manziel pick, but as a humbled Johnny I am interested to see him prove himself or not, like Gilbert. Either way as Hoyer found out, it's all about this OL staying healthy and we were ranked 13th with 31 sacks in 2014 and it still feels like half of those were at home with Cinny with Johnny holding the ball and a banged up OL that got beat up all day. 7 solid OL man at Jets and all in on Josh being the trusted starting QB. Go Browns!!
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After having rewatched our first 5 games from last year (also known as "the healthy Alex Mack period"), I find it hard to believe McCown is going to be better than Hoyer was during that stretch. Yes he had some terrible throws, but he really did flash some brilliance. I kind of question why we cut him after watching these games, honestly.
He wasn't cut. He left as a free agent. With the right deal the Browns very well may have kept him.
He wasn't cut. He left as a free agent. With the right deal the Browns very well may have kept him.
Really don't think with the right deal Hoyer would have stayed. Manziel pick(hometown mentor?). FO Felt Not the long term Guy (agree). I stick with Farmer and Haslem lost Hoyer when a good OL went Bad due to injury and a idiot named Shanny ,than They tossed Hoyer under a bus.
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After having rewatched our first 5 games from last year (also known as "the healthy Alex Mack period"), I find it hard to believe McCown is going to be better than Hoyer was during that stretch. Yes he had some terrible throws, but he really did flash some brilliance. I kind of question why we cut him after watching these games, honestly.
Because he wasn't willing to be mentor for Johnny. It was either him or Johnny.
McCown will attempt to be as serviceable as Hoyer while also helping progress Johnny.
Because he wasn't willing to be mentor for Johnny. It was either him or Johnny.
McCown will attempt to be as serviceable as Hoyer while also helping progress Johnny.
Thought of that. But to believe that would be to concede that these guys are actually, to some degree, making decisions based on Johnny. And no one seems to believe that.
At the same price (for both McCown and Hoyer), who would you take?
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Because he wasn't willing to be mentor for Johnny. It was either him or Johnny.
McCown will attempt to be as serviceable as Hoyer while also helping progress Johnny.
Thought of that. But to believe that would be to concede that these guys are actually, to some degree, making decisions based on Johnny. And no one seems to believe that.
At the same price (for both McCown and Hoyer), who would you take?
At the same price (for both McCown and Hoyer), who would you take?
I myself take McCown, because I now know what Brian has to offer while under center for the Browns, and it wasn't good enough. I like Brian, but at this point I'll take the unknown hope vs the known failure (maybe a bit harsh, but it is what is it).
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But it was good enough when the middle of his OL wasn't Swiss cheese.
Furthermore, when talking known vs unknown, there's really no comparison between Mccown and Hoyer....
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Hoyer had lost serious zip on his passes. I don't know what was up with that,
but Bernie Kosar could have thrown better, stronger passes with his left arm.....
It was time. Hoyer wanted to go back near home anyways. He completed
less than 56 % of his passes, turned the ball over.....more ints than td's....
season rating was 31st in the NFL...Good luck to him.
But McCown still has the zip on the ball, and a lot more starting experience.
I believe he will surprise a lot of fans.
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Regardless Hoyer is gone, we have McGown.
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Because he wasn't willing to be mentor for Johnny. It was either him or Johnny.
McCown will attempt to be as serviceable as Hoyer while also helping progress Johnny.
Thought of that. But to believe that would be to concede that these guys are actually, to some degree, making decisions based on Johnny. And no one seems to believe that.
At the same price (for both McCown and Hoyer), who would you take?
Thought of that. But to believe that would be to concede that these guys are actually, to some degree, making decisions based on Johnny. And no one seems to believe that.
At the same price (for both McCown and Hoyer), who would you take?
I think they are making some decisions around developing a QB, whoever he might be. Hoyer wanted to be the locked-in starter for a full contract period, probably at least five years (purely speculation based off of what I've read). There wasn't interest in being a stop-gap.
McCown doesn't have the longevity to be a full-term starter. He has maybe three years left in the tank, total. Maybe two as a starter.
I think the FO looked at it as an opportunity to grow Johnny or, if he doesn't grow, get the next best guy in the draft.
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I was a big supporter of Hoyer and loved the beginning of the season, last year. But I can't explain what happened to him in the second half. He suddenly became inaccurate with his passes and they lacked zip. Even the easy passes were frustratingly thrown in the dirt and he missed wide-open receivers, taking safer options. They say it was Mack's injury but I think it was Hoyer's performance that impacted our W/L record. So I'm ready to move into the McCown era. Now I may still be wearing my brown colored glasses, but I think McCown is going to beat expectations this year. The team is pretty solid, save for receivers and a veteran, skilled QB could rejuvenate his career with such a group.
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