Out of the Doghouse 2015?
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the desir story is something movies are made of. i'm pulling for both these kids (as well as every other one on our roster). just keep the friggin injury bug away and i think the browns will surprise EVERYONE.
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the desir story is something movies are made of. i'm pulling for both these kids (as well as every other one on our roster). just keep the friggin injury bug away and i think the browns will surprise EVERYONE.
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As much as I love Gilberts obvious skill set, I shutter a little every time I hear him talk.....something is just not right with this guy....
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Simple, he's from the Big 12
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As much as I love Gilberts obvious skill set, I shutter a little every time I hear him talk.....something is just not right with this guy....
As much as I love Gilberts obvious skill set, I shutter a little every time I hear him talk.....something is just not right with this guy....
I saw some of what I think bothers you... seemed to lack any spark early, but he was answering MKC "areyougoingtosuckasbadthisyear" questions.
Then spark came with question about Tabor and getting to return this year.
Then gone again with MKC's second round...
Two things he said bothered me:
1. The weight... should have added some muscle by now.
2. Q: Is it still your goal to start this year? A: We'll see what happens.
Make that three or four:
3. Kick offs, but not punts?
4. Motivation?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
As much as I love Gilberts obvious skill set, I shutter a little every time I hear him talk.....something is just not right with this guy....
I saw some of what I think bothers you... seemed to lack any spark early, but he was answering MKC "areyougoingtosuckasbadthisyear" questions.
Then spark came with question about Tabor and getting to return this year.
Then gone again with MKC's second round...
Two things he said bothered me:
1. The weight... should have added some muscle by now.
2. Q: Is it still your goal to start this year? A: We'll see what happens.
Make that three or four:
3. Kick offs, but not punts?
4. Motivation?
I saw some of what I think bothers you... seemed to lack any spark early, but he was answering MKC "areyougoingtosuckasbadthisyear" questions.
Then spark came with question about Tabor and getting to return this year.
Then gone again with MKC's second round...
Two things he said bothered me:
1. The weight... should have added some muscle by now.
2. Q: Is it still your goal to start this year? A: We'll see what happens.
Make that three or four:
3. Kick offs, but not punts?
4. Motivation?
"Well see what happens"?!?!??......THAT one knocked me outta my chair.....she asked about "goals" buddy....
And, yep.....seems happy about returning kick offs(which is good).....but a huge NO on the punt thing.....ok.....skeered?
Seemed only to be repeating what he must be hearing from the coaches....which is basically "show us you want to be here"...
Hoping his level of enthusiasm isnt contagious....
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I saw some of what I think bothers you... seemed to lack any spark early, but he was answering MKC "areyougoingtosuckasbadthisyear" questions.
Then spark came with question about Tabor and getting to return this year.
Then gone again with MKC's second round...
Two things he said bothered me:
1. The weight... should have added some muscle by now.
2. Q: Is it still your goal to start this year? A: We'll see what happens.
Make that three or four:
3. Kick offs, but not punts?
4. Motivation?
"Well see what happens"?!?!??......THAT one knocked me outta my chair.....she asked about "goals" buddy....
And, yep.....seems happy about returning kick offs(which is good).....but a huge NO on the punt thing.....ok.....skeered?
Seemed only to be repeating what he must be hearing from the coaches....which is basically "show us you want to be here"...
Hoping his level of enthusiasm isnt contagious....
"Well see what happens"?!?!??......THAT one knocked me outta my chair.....she asked about "goals" buddy....
And, yep.....seems happy about returning kick offs(which is good).....but a huge NO on the punt thing.....ok.....skeered?
Seemed only to be repeating what he must be hearing from the coaches....which is basically "show us you want to be here"...
Hoping his level of enthusiasm isnt contagious....
you can just feel the level of arrogance in that dude which it's clear hasn't changed. Ya know, arrogance isn't necessarily a bad thing in the NFL if you play at a elite level. Say what you will about say Dez Bryant but that dude at least backs up his words. If this dude doesn't get humbled in a hurry he can enjoy his rookie contract cause it'll be the last one he gets. Good on this club though for not caving into that crap.
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"Well see what happens"?!?!??......THAT one knocked me outta my chair.....she asked about "goals" buddy....
And, yep.....seems happy about returning kick offs(which is good).....but a huge NO on the punt thing.....ok.....skeered?
Seemed only to be repeating what he must be hearing from the coaches....which is basically "show us you want to be here"...
Hoping his level of enthusiasm isnt contagious....
you can just feel the level of arrogance in that dude which it's clear hasn't changed. Ya know, arrogance isn't necessarily a bad thing in the NFL if you play at a elite level. Say what you will about say Dez Bryant but that dude at least backs up his words. If this dude doesn't get humbled in a hurry he can enjoy his rookie contract cause it'll be the last one he gets. Good on this club though for not caving into that crap.
you can just feel the level of arrogance in that dude which it's clear hasn't changed.
I'm not getting "arrogance" so much as I am "numbness"... at least that what I get when it's not being obscured by annoyance.
And, yep.....seems happy about returning kick offs(which is good).....but a huge NO on the punt thing.....ok.....skeered?
Gotta be catching the ball on punts because to a man of his size and gifts, I'd think the broken field often presented on a punt return would have to be preferable to the wall he'd see returning kicks.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Kickoffs any more is 1.watching it go over your head, touchback. Or 2. having to make a good decision on bringing it out 8 yards deep. After watching video, god I hope he can catch a punt or the leader of the depth chart is benji if we keep him around and next is Poyer and that's like watching Jim Leonard catch fair catch's all over again. Yawn. Yawn. beer run to fridge could start at a kicking formation, let me know what I miss.
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Kickoffs any more is 1.watching it go over your head, touchback. Or 2. having to make a good decision on bringing it out 8 yards deep. After watching video, god I hope he can catch a punt or the leader of the depth chart is benji if we keep him around and next is Poyer and that's like watching Jim Leonard catch fair catch's all over again. Yawn. Yawn. beer run to fridge could start at a kicking formation, let me know what I miss.
Kickoffs any more is 1.watching it go over your head, touchback. Or 2. having to make a good decision on bringing it out 8 yards deep. After watching video, god I hope he can catch a punt or the leader of the depth chart is benji if we keep him around and next is Poyer and that's like watching Jim Leonard catch fair catch's all over again. Yawn. Yawn. beer run to fridge could start at a kicking formation, let me know what I miss.
Word is that Benji is looking much improved......live action will tell soon enough.....
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you can just feel the level of arrogance in that dude which it's clear hasn't changed.
I'm not getting "arrogance" so much as I am "numbness"... at least that what I get when it's not being obscured by annoyance.
And, yep.....seems happy about returning kick offs(which is good).....but a huge NO on the punt thing.....ok.....skeered?
Gotta be catching the ball on punts because to a man of his size and gifts, I'd think the broken field often presented on a punt return would have to be preferable to the wall he'd see returning kicks.
I'm not getting "arrogance" so much as I am "numbness"... at least that what I get when it's not being obscured by annoyance.
I think we are on the same page, it just seems like the guy is still going through the motions (and that's what some people are reporting too). It seems like he still thinks his high draft status and athletic ability will get him by when it's clear it won't.
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I'm not getting "arrogance" so much as I am "numbness"... at least that what I get when it's not being obscured by annoyance.
I think we are on the same page, it just seems like the guy is still going through the motions (and that's what some people are reporting too). It seems like he still thinks his high draft status and athletic ability will get him by when it's clear it won't.
I think we are on the same page, it just seems like the guy is still going through the motions (and that's what some people are reporting too). It seems like he still thinks his high draft status and athletic ability will get him by when it's clear it won't.
Well if anyone can turn him around it would be Aaron Glenn, undersized corner who performed at all-pro level because his head was always in the game. And he never pouted a second when beat. Just got ready to make a great play the next time it came his way.
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Justin Gilbert looking like another Browns bust
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 5, 2015, 12:41 PM EDT
Great attention has been paid to Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel, a 2014 first-round pick who was a major disappointment as a rookie and isn’t expected to start this year. But Manziel may not have been the biggest bust of the Browns’ 2014 draft class.That honor could go instead to cornerback Justin Gilbert, who was chosen eighth overall last year (14 spots ahead of Manziel) and has also been a huge disappointment.Gilbert spent most of his time on the bench last year amid talk that he wasn’t working hard enough in practice and hadn’t earned the respect of veteran teammates. He was deactivated for Week 17 because he showed up late to a team meeting.This year in training camp, Gilbert is buried on the depth chart: Even when starting cornerbacks Tramon Williams and Joe Haden were given off days, Gilbert didn’t get first-string reps, according to ESPNCleveland.com. Pierre Desier, a fourth-round pick last year, is the cornerback moving onto the first team when the veteran starters are out of practice.Asked if his goal is to earn a starting job, Gilbert answered, “We’ll see what happens.”What it appears will happen is that Gilbert will remain a backup who doesn’t get much playing time. That was clearly not the plan when the Browns used a Top 10 pick on Gilbert. It’s looking like Gilbert will go down as another Browns bust. -
more fluff from the media who have nothing else to write about. if by year's end he hasn't shown improvement and has an attitude problem, THEN i'll concede he was a wasted pick but these reports are a week into TC and they are already burying people or lifting them to demi-god status. they know jack shit.
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Kickoffs any more is 1.watching it go over your head, touchback. Or 2. having to make a good decision on bringing it out 8 yards deep. After watching video, god I hope he can catch a punt or the leader of the depth chart is benji if we keep him around and next is Poyer and that's like watching Jim Leonard catch fair catch's all over again. Yawn. Yawn. beer run to fridge could start at a kicking formation, let me know what I miss.
Kickoffs any more is 1.watching it go over your head, touchback.
Thus the wisdom of spending a 1st round on a returner...
I think we are on the same page...
Yeah... a page called disappointed.
Well if anyone can turn him around it would be Aaron Glenn, undersized corner who performed at all-pro level because his head was always in the game.
I thought it would have been because he's a former student...
I think that catches me up on my emoticon quota...
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more fluff from the media who have nothing else to write about. if by year's end he hasn't shown improvement and has an attitude problem, THEN i'll concede he was a wasted pick but these reports are a week into TC and they are already burying people or lifting them to demi-god status. they know jack shit.
more fluff from the media who have nothing else to write about. if by year's end he hasn't shown improvement and has an attitude problem, THEN i'll concede he was a wasted pick but these reports are a week into TC and they are already burying people or lifting them to demi-god status. they know jack shit.
Sure, but the interview quote is real and perplexing...
Where's the fire?
It's as if the kid does not know that Mudfly's rep is at stake here...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
or mine. i was hoping like hell we'd land gilbert in the draft. now i wish it'd been my second choice which was evans.
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His "we'll see what happens" quote is troubling to say the least.
i know and that pisses me off big time. i'm just wondering if he doesn't want to be on this team?
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So, he can return kicks and we had five #1s in three years:
Richardson, Weeden
Mingo
Gilbert, Manziel
None of them are starting and two of them are gone.
I'm pretty sure ... OK, absolutely sure ... no team has ever fucked up five first round picks in three years like us.
But we won the rest of the draft and we will make the playoffs with McCown, so there's that ...
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