Jonathan Paul Manziel
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A good knowledge of the offense? He was able to run around like a Retard 90% of the time until he threw a 50/50 ball for Evans or Swope. In fact his knowledge of the offense might not be the issue. His understanding of defense cost him dearly against LSU and UF.
Yes, he knew the offense. Of the almost 8,000 yards of passing, Johnny completed maybe 5 or 6 "50/50" balls at A&M.
UF was his first ever college football game. LSU had his number, no doubt. LSU's defense has lots of team's numbers.
I'm hoping his second pro year mirrors his second year in college, his redshirt freshman year. For this to happen, he has to get his confidence back. He looked like a scared kid against Cincy, something I hated seeing. That was clearly due to his not knowing the playbook and not being able to read an NFL defense. The more time he has to do this, and the more dedicated he is doing it, will lead to his confidence being built back up, similar to what happened after his disastrous first year in college.
I really like the McCown hire, I've always liked that guy, and with the talent this Browns team has, they could be successful with him in there.
Yes, he knew the offense. Of the almost 8,000 yards of passing, Johnny completed maybe 5 or 6 "50/50" balls at A&M.
Ok there, guy.
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Yes, he knew the offense. Of the almost 8,000 yards of passing, Johnny completed maybe 5 or 6 "50/50" balls at A&M.
Ok there, guy.
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Yes, he knew the offense. Of the almost 8,000 yards of passing, Johnny completed maybe 5 or 6 "50/50" balls at A&M.
Ok there, guy.
Ok what?Ok there, guy.
This is a common misconception and false claim about Johnny Manziel. It's funny, too, because on one hand you call me a Johnny fanboy because I'm an Aggie fan, then you turn around and dispute my knowledge of Aggie football.
So here is a list of 50/50 balls completed by Johnny. You mentioned Swope. Johnny never threw a single 50/50 ball or jump ball to Swope.
Ole Miss 2012 Evans
Bama 2013 Evans , Pope
Arky 2013 Evans td
That's 4 I can remember. There's probably a couple more, but you act like he won the Heisman by throwing the ball up for grabs 10 times a game. Just stupid. He was a 70% passer, you don't get that by not knowing the offense, not reading the defense, and just throwing the ball up for grabs.
Johnny highlights are all over YouTube. Feel free to look them up and show me all these 50/50 balls to Swope you're talking about.
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I feel the hysteria beginning to build. Just relax. We haven't even played our first pre-season game yet.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
There were just a few more to Evans than that IIRC.
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There were just a few more to Evans than that IIRC.
If you're talking true jump balls, tell me when they were because I've looked. If you're talking back shoulder fades that are contested, those shouldn't be included.
Glad you agree there were no Swope jump balls.
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What about to Pope Bama 2013?
Swope definitely wasn't a toss-it-up-to-him-kinda guy.
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I included Pope. The Evans td I mentioned was actually from Arky 2013. I got the years wrong too, so I corrected below.
Yes, we both know that about Swope because we actually watched the games.
Ole Miss 2012 Evans
Bama 2013 Evans , Pope
Arky 2013 Evans td
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I feel the hysteria beginning to build. Just relax. We haven't even played our first pre-season game yet.
I feel the hysteria beginning to build.
No marching band, but...
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I feel the hysteria beginning to build.
No marching band, but...
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I look forward to the day the Browns draft a QB in the first round and it's not big news that he had "a good day of practice" in his second year and that there is hope because he is "starting to look like a football player".
Bridgewater & Carr ready to lead THEIR team to the next level.
Our guy drafted ahead of them "looked good in the shotgun today" while politely not pushing our 35 yo journeyman starter.
Zombo
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Zombo reading Johnny news in the worst possible light instead of just being happy for the kid. Shocked I tell you.
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Can't we be happy with the progress he's been displaying? Good lord it's as if some of you want to see him fail.
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Herewego...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Z didn't like being burned last year. Can't blame him a bit. Neither did I after going way out on a limb to suggest JM could overcome JF and be a very good pro QB.
But here I am again out on a limb with articles like this. Real hope in all this with the realistic notion staff thoroughly understands it's a long progression from JFF to JM the Pro.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/08/johnny_manziel_if_i_play_well.html
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progress is good. We like that.
But, Happy will happen wayyy down the road, when he establishes that he's actually a good starter(and one we can count on)......that'll take a good while.....And since he's pretty much lost everyones trust and confidence, it'll take more than some good practices to earn it back....
In the mean while, most of us are taking a "wait and see"....and liking it so far.....
My main fear is all the knob slobberers are on their way back, now thats he's had a couple good practices.....
So I say.....lets support him and his recent efforts.....complaining about the past gets old....
At the same time......if theres a sudden influx of Jff fanboys and a bunch of knob licking based only on practice, then expect a BUNCH of push back, followed by a dark miserable spiral back into "Johnny Blah Blah Blah" purgatory.....
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Thanks Tour. Glad to be back. Football is back. Johnny's looking better.
HA!....Fixed.....
Best to just own it ABF....
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