Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Woah woah woah Miss Lippy... are you serious? Did Pettine say that?
Don't get too excited, Pettine is pretty much rotating all the players through the 1st Team.
Basically the same situation for Pryor before he got hurt.
I am pleased to see that JM is actually looking somewhat like a Football Player this year in contrast to what we got dealt last year.
Still a ways to go though, but there is some encouraging progress.
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practice is in and the JFF report says........(wait for it).....he killed it today!
3 passing tds and 1 rushing.....body language says he's feeling it right now......
3 days......and counting.....
Yup settle down Ags... McCown is just going to have an early night and leave some reps with the 1's on the table.
But no doubt that JM has earned whatever ones come his way.practice is in and the JFF report says........(wait for it).....he killed it today!
3 passing tds and 1 rushing.....body language says he's feeling it right now......and... wait for it... he followed it up with his first presser...
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Johnny-Manziel-Full-Press-Conference---807/2fe70ab8-cb7b-4d2c-b5a6-4e4630859e22
While I wish he'd continued to lay low, it's pretty good stuff all in all... only a couple points bothered me:- At 1:50-ish mark he laid some blame for last year on the hype that was around him.
- Dodging the 4:30-ish question around contrast with last year.
- Is it just me or are his shoulders significantly asymmetrical? I'm used to seeing asymmetry in tennis players forearms, but never noticed it in QBs or pitchers before.
On the plus side:
- Good answer on spending time with Gruden.
- Good brush-off of MKC's "off-season" question... She has no pride.
- Admission-ish answer about getting wrapped up in starter thing last year.
Not sure what to make about last question and the abrupt ending... so I won't make anything of it.
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NFL Limitations. Let's just see where this goes. Manziel looks ready to play football in a serious manner since he's been here is all I see. And that's a good place for him right now. Handled media well imo, "Football we talk and personal and past not up for debate it's all about football" that's a great step. Stay the Course to prove himself next up, Got no problem with it. Not getting the Jersey back out of the closet yet.(Damn sister love ya).
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I like this Johnny better than last years Johnny. So far so good regarding his media handling.
I like this Johnny better than last years Johnny. So far so good regarding his media handling.
This Johnny is more like the 2012 JM that won the trophy. Seldom talked (not allowed really) but was supercompetitive and much faster than the following year when he was trying to convert to the pro game more. The one sprint for yards yesterday is the JM we knew in 2012. I'm glad they are bringing him along slowly. Has a far better chance to be the QB he wants to be.
Quote taken by writer Kevin Jones is I feel a very telling statement by Pettine:
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In Pettineβs eyes, Manziel has taken a big mental leap during this training camp.
βThe one play he made where defense was a heavy blitz look, he walked up, changed the protection, stepped up in the pocket and threw a touchdown pass,β Pettine said. βThat was probably, start to finish, his best play of camp β¦ It was more preparation than anything else. I just think he has so much more of an intimate knowledge of what weβre doing.β
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Now that sounds very promising.
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A good knowledge of the offense? He was able to run around like a Retard 90% of the time until he threw a 50/50 ball for Evans or Swope. In fact his knowledge of the offense might not be the issue. His understanding of defense cost him dearly against LSU and UF.
Yes, he knew the offense. Of the almost 8,000 yards of passing, Johnny completed maybe 5 or 6 "50/50" balls at A&M.
UF was his first ever college football game. LSU had his number, no doubt. LSU's defense has lots of team's numbers.
I'm hoping his second pro year mirrors his second year in college, his redshirt freshman year. For this to happen, he has to get his confidence back. He looked like a scared kid against Cincy, something I hated seeing. That was clearly due to his not knowing the playbook and not being able to read an NFL defense. The more time he has to do this, and the more dedicated he is doing it, will lead to his confidence being built back up, similar to what happened after his disastrous first year in college.
I really like the McCown hire, I've always liked that guy, and with the talent this Browns team has, they could be successful with him in there.
Yes, he knew the offense. Of the almost 8,000 yards of passing, Johnny completed maybe 5 or 6 "50/50" balls at A&M.
Ok there, guy.
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Yes, he knew the offense. Of the almost 8,000 yards of passing, Johnny completed maybe 5 or 6 "50/50" balls at A&M.
Ok there, guy.
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Yes, he knew the offense. Of the almost 8,000 yards of passing, Johnny completed maybe 5 or 6 "50/50" balls at A&M.
Ok there, guy.
Ok what?Ok there, guy.
This is a common misconception and false claim about Johnny Manziel. It's funny, too, because on one hand you call me a Johnny fanboy because I'm an Aggie fan, then you turn around and dispute my knowledge of Aggie football.
So here is a list of 50/50 balls completed by Johnny. You mentioned Swope. Johnny never threw a single 50/50 ball or jump ball to Swope.
Ole Miss 2012 Evans
Bama 2013 Evans , Pope
Arky 2013 Evans td
That's 4 I can remember. There's probably a couple more, but you act like he won the Heisman by throwing the ball up for grabs 10 times a game. Just stupid. He was a 70% passer, you don't get that by not knowing the offense, not reading the defense, and just throwing the ball up for grabs.
Johnny highlights are all over YouTube. Feel free to look them up and show me all these 50/50 balls to Swope you're talking about.
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I feel the hysteria beginning to build. Just relax. We haven't even played our first pre-season game yet.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.β - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
There were just a few more to Evans than that IIRC.
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There were just a few more to Evans than that IIRC.
If you're talking true jump balls, tell me when they were because I've looked. If you're talking back shoulder fades that are contested, those shouldn't be included.
Glad you agree there were no Swope jump balls.
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What about to Pope Bama 2013?
Swope definitely wasn't a toss-it-up-to-him-kinda guy.
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I included Pope. The Evans td I mentioned was actually from Arky 2013. I got the years wrong too, so I corrected below.
Yes, we both know that about Swope because we actually watched the games.
Ole Miss 2012 Evans
Bama 2013 Evans , Pope
Arky 2013 Evans td
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I feel the hysteria beginning to build. Just relax. We haven't even played our first pre-season game yet.
I feel the hysteria beginning to build.
No marching band, but...
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I feel the hysteria beginning to build.
No marching band, but...
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I look forward to the day the Browns draft a QB in the first round and it's not big news that he had "a good day of practice" in his second year and that there is hope because he is "starting to look like a football player".
Bridgewater & Carr ready to lead THEIR team to the next level.
Our guy drafted ahead of them "looked good in the shotgun today" while politely not pushing our 35 yo journeyman starter.
Zombo
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Zombo reading Johnny news in the worst possible light instead of just being happy for the kid. Shocked I tell you.
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Can't we be happy with the progress he's been displaying? Good lord it's as if some of you want to see him fail.
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