Good riddance Jon Stewart
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I stand corrected.
I didn't realize there were people dumb enough to take Rush that seriously.
But you easily accept the idea there are people dumb enough to take Jon Stewart seriously?I stand corrected.
I didn't realize there were people dumb enough to take Rush that seriously.
And just for fun on a which issues do you strongly disagree with Limbaugh?
WSS
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I would have jon stewarts supposed "brainwashing" any day over the kind of right wing gutter scum trash that taught that kid to sing a song titled ain't no homo's gonna make it heaven. At least in the world brainfucked by Jon Stewart people wouldn't be perfect obviously but they would by and large be decent, kind and ultimately respectful people. Right wing whackjobs in this country are flirting with becoming some of the worst people in the world not flying an Isis flag. I mean look how you all dutifully felate a man to the root who talks about women like Trump does...even calls conservative women who "dare" stand up to him, bimbo's and hoores. And you all take his cock down your throats like spineless little jellyfish without an ounce of masculine essence. You've essentially all been neutered. Physical, intellectual and spiritual geldings.
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Actually if you think about it for a minute, and I don't have any facts and figures just a hunch, but in general do you think conservative kids are more likely to go into fields like medicine mathematics science Engineering etc? And liberal kids might be more drawn to say, Theater, English literature, creative writing, art history? Just a guess.
WSS
Actually if you think about it for a minute, and I don't have any facts and figures just a hunch, but in general do you think conservative kids are more likely to go into fields like medicine mathematics science Engineering etc? And liberal kids might be more drawn to say, Theater, English literature, creative writing, art history? Just a guess.
WSS
All of these hard science jobs are out on the coasts, which are reknowned liberal bastions. Does that answer your query? You think the more "conservative" the kid, the more he's going to gravitate towards science's that contradict what he's been raised on his whole youth?
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He makes 40 mil a year and he lives in a 17.5 million dollar double gated Manhattan penthouse
He's so fucking out of touch with the average American, fuck Jon Stewart
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Actually if you think about it for a minute, and I don't have any facts and figures just a hunch, but in general do you think conservative kids are more likely to go into fields like medicine mathematics science Engineering etc? And liberal kids might be more drawn to say, Theater, English literature, creative writing, art history? Just a guess.
WSS
All of these hard science jobs are out on the coasts, which are reknowned liberal bastions. Does that answer your query? You think the more "conservative" the kid, the more he's going to gravitate towards science's that contradict what he's been raised on his whole youth?
All of these hard science jobs are out on the coasts, which are reknowned liberal bastions. Does that answer your query? You think the more "conservative" the kid, the more he's going to gravitate towards science's that contradict what he's been raised on his whole youth?
So do you think I'm wrong or are you just talking out your ass?
WSS
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All of these hard science jobs are out on the coasts, which are reknowned liberal bastions. Does that answer your query? You think the more "conservative" the kid, the more he's going to gravitate towards science's that contradict what he's been raised on his whole youth?
So do you think I'm wrong or are you just talking out your ass?
WSS
So do you think I'm wrong or are you just talking out your ass?
WSS
I didn't see you offer an opinion...just asking which do people think is the case. If you think that the more conservative you are the more you're drawn to the higher math and physics science's...than you don't understand the creative chastity belt that an ultra conserative upbringing imposes on a young persons mind. Those people are proven to go more the business routes, making money..screwing people over etc, etc.
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Actually I don't think that the sciences mathematics and engineering are necessarily creative avenues. So again your point?
And are you trying to draw a comparison between upbringing and ideology?
WSS
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Actually I don't think that the sciences mathematics and engineering are necessarily creative avenues. So again your point?
And are you trying to draw a comparison between upbringing and ideology?
WSS
Actually I don't think that the sciences mathematics and engineering are necessarily creative avenues. So again your point?
And are you trying to draw a comparison between upbringing and ideology?
WSS
The best phycisists and mathematicians are extremely creative people. Making an exaggerated point here, but do you think someone brought up on the notion that the earth was flat and the sky was some kind of heavenly mural beckoning us onward, would have made the intuitive leaps that have brought us to where we are now in our understanding of the universe?
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Actually if you think about it for a minute, and I don't have any facts and figures just a hunch, but in general do you think conservative kids are more likely to go into fields like medicine mathematics science Engineering etc? And liberal kids might be more drawn to say, Theater, English literature, creative writing, art history? Just a guess.
WSS
Actually if you think about it for a minute, and I don't have any facts and figures just a hunch, but in general do you think conservative kids are more likely to go into fields like medicine mathematics science Engineering etc? And liberal kids might be more drawn to say, Theater, English literature, creative writing, art history? Just a guess.
WSS
Well, I can only speak to my experience here. Among scientists, mathematicians and engineers (STEM basically), I don't think there is much political talk at all. There are more important things to be worried about. In my time going to school with these types of people, working with these types of people, most of my friends being these types of people, and being one myself, I can tell you politics never really comes up. At no point is it "lets go to the pro life / pro choice rally!" No one gives a shit about student govt either. You barely needed any votes to get elected to the engineering student board. Politics isn't that important of a topic.
This is probably also tied to the younger generations disdain for politics in general, but it is even less important, from what I've seen, in these STEM majors.
It is also important to distinguish between social conservatism and financial / other conservatism too. As far as social conservatism goes, a lot of those principles can have a religious backbone. The education you've received, the less likely you are to be religious. That isn't supporting your case for STEM embracing conservatism. Then on topics like Climate Change... Well... Yeah.
Financial matters are different.
You just seem to go straight to "hippie tree hugger, stereotypical college liberal" for some reason. Which is why you'd imagine their college opposite, STEM majors, would be conservative
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More anecdotal evidence here, but I was raised in a home that wasn't political. We stopped going to church after a while too. I was never really told how to think one way or another. And we all know (for the most part) my views.
I would wager to bet a higher percentage of young conservatives are the result of their parents influence than young liberals. And again, I'm talking mostly social policy.
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I would bet, anecdotally, that an astronomically higher proportion of liberals become conservative than conservatives become liberal later in life.
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I would bet, anecdotally, that an astronomically higher proportion of liberals become conservative than conservatives become liberal later in life.
I would bet, anecdotally, that an astronomically higher proportion of liberals become conservative than conservatives become liberal later in life.
Ideas that were once liberal, become common place or conservative. New ideas take that place as liberal. Again, I'm talking social.
For example, it is "liberal" to want gay marriage legalized. The majority of my generation have this now liberal view. As we get older, we aren't going to all of a sudden say gays shouldn't get married. We're going to keep these beliefs, and they'll become common place.
Compare it to interracial marriage or women voting. At one point these were liberal views. If you look around today though, the vast majority of people share the belief that they're ok.
Get it?
Financially is a little different. Not every young adult has the same experience with money. Not all ate as versed in it. As they get older though, they will be. Plus, the longer you pay taxes, the more you lose to taxes, thr easier it is to say less taxes.
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woody's right, eventually pecker sucking will go conservative. You heard it here first.
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Actually I don't think that the sciences mathematics and engineering are necessarily creative avenues. So again your point? Steve
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More liberal diversion from subject by Cleve and Woody.
Cleve says they are creative, because scientists are curious about
the nature of earth being flat or not.
And Woody feels that scientists are not very political at all.
Meanwhile, the subject was mathematical and engineering sciences being creative avenues.
Smart enough to know all sorts of words, though, not able to keep to a simple subject.
Just random emotional knee jerky.
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Actually I don't think that the sciences mathematics and engineering are necessarily creative avenues. So again your point?
And are you trying to draw a comparison between upbringing and ideology?
WSS
The best phycisists and mathematicians are extremely creative people. Making an exaggerated point here, but do you think someone brought up on the notion that the earth was flat and the sky was some kind of heavenly mural beckoning us onward, would have made the intuitive leaps that have brought us to where we are now in our understanding of the universe?
I will assume there is a creative streak in the top 1 or 2 percent of any skilled field. More likely to be found across the board jn theater music and literature.The best phycisists and mathematicians are extremely creative people. Making an exaggerated point here, but do you think someone brought up on the notion that the earth was flat and the sky was some kind of heavenly mural beckoning us onward, would have made the intuitive leaps that have brought us to where we are now in our understanding of the universe?
WSS
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Actually I don't think that the sciences mathematics and engineering are necessarily creative avenues. So again your point?
And are you trying to draw a comparison between upbringing and ideology?
WSS
Actually I don't think that the sciences mathematics and engineering are necessarily creative avenues. So again your point?
And are you trying to draw a comparison between upbringing and ideology?
WSS
Creativity doesn't have to be painting a pretty picture or writing a catchy song. Creativity exists outside of the Fine Arts
Engineers are given a problem and a set of constraints. It is then on you (and/or your team) to find a solution. There is a lot of creativity involved in this process. I'm not sure how you could not see the creativity involved in these areas.
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There are artists that do nothing but paint the same picture a dozen times a day and make a good living selling them to the starving artist sales.
WSS
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There are artists that do nothing but paint the same picture a dozen times a day and make a good living selling them to the starving artist sales.
WSS
There are artists that do nothing but paint the same picture a dozen times a day and make a good living selling them to the starving artist sales.
WSS
...ok? And?
The point was you trying to say STEM wasn't a creative field. I disagree with that.
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There are artists that do nothing but paint the same picture a dozen times a day and make a good living selling them to the starving artist sales.
WSS
...ok? And?
The point was you trying to say STEM wasn't a creative field. I disagree with that.
...ok? And?
The point was you trying to say STEM wasn't a creative field. I disagree with that.
I actually agree with woody. There's a lot of creativity to engineering.
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I believe Steve is thinking its all equations and number crunching. That is just the format (in a sense) of some engineering courses like Heat Transfer or Fluid Dynamics (excluding labs).
These courses just give the base of knowledge to solve the problems I talked about earlier. There is obviously some variation among different positions, but it is the same idea.
Creativity is used to solve these problems. It could take a knowledge of Fluid Dynamics and a level of creativity to design some new product, or solve a manufacturing issue, etc.
Either way, there is creativity involved.
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