Which receivers make this team?
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It's all about who wants to be a weapon in this Offense and its slim right now. It's Benji, Hartline, Bibbs, Wynn and Jennings and some Lenz. Hawk and Gabe no shows?? The Size that fits is Bowe and Pryor and nobody knows, the other size is Mayle and he needs PS or IR with those hands. I hope for the Best of what we got in TB but we got no Dez nor Megatron in this future. Farmer your move..
agreed...dont see mayle in the 53 this year......heard a radio rumor that the cards are seriously hurting for D line and shopping Michael Floyd.....phil taylor and a late pick?....Id say yes....
agreed...dont see mayle in the 53 this year......heard a radio rumor that the cards are seriously hurting for D line and shopping Michael Floyd.....phil taylor and a late pick?....Id say yes....
Mayle hurt himself last night but I still think they may use "injury" as a way to hide him.
Big Phil & a late pick or another DL for Floyd or Floyd & a pick.....OH YEAH!
Mike
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Hawkins and Benjamin have the speed just lack the size on those 50/50 balls. Unfortunately after that you've got possession WRs in Hartline and Gabriel and possibly a washed up Bowe. Can only hope Josh Gordon can stay clean and come back next year with previous form.
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I see Pryor as the third TE to save a roster spot at WR
The odd man out to me is the TE Housler...or
Its not looking good for Housler right now.....I agree....
He's listed third and Bibbs(who is 4th) is clearly outperforming him at camp....the scrimmage.....and game 1......
And now I see that the Redskins just lost their 2nd TE this week(both are out for the season)......I say the farmer should get on the phone with them tomorrow and get us a late draft pick and some extra cap room.....
Its not looking good for Housler right now....
And now I see that the Redskins just lost their 2nd TE this week(both are out for the season)......I say the farmer should get on the phone with them tomorrow and get us a late draft pick and some extra cap room.....
Well, dont say I didnt tip ya off Farmer.....woulda, coulda, shoulda got a 4th rounder.....easy.......but it's too late now....
.....the Bears and Saints are still looking though.......
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1. Bowe
2. Hartline
3. Hawkins
4. Gabriel
5. Benjamin
6. Pryor
7. Jennings
That's my prediction.
I loved Jennings at UVA and was glad the Browns signed him. Reminded me of Antonio Brown coming out of college.
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Pryor could be cut if Pettine is genuine about keeping guys he knows can produce over potential.
Mayle & Wynn to P.S.
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great potential in lenz. sad to see that there is no room for the kid.
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Still a lot of time till cuts, well not really, but he'll probably make it through the first round. Him Wynn and Jennings were all really solid pick ups. Lenz needs to have a big Game 3. He has been good in practice and the scrimmage but not so much during the games.
great potential in lenz. sad to see that there is no room for the kid.
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Well look what the cat dragged in... Heya, Mikey...
Totally agree on Lenz, Wynn and Jennings... so at least we'll have that.
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Well look what the cat dragged in... Heya, Mikey...
Totally agree on Lenz, Wynn and Jennings... so at least we'll have that.
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This is a bit off topic, but did anyone notice how often Jon Gruden mentioned the amount of injuries Buffalo had, but none of ours. He did mention our secondary, but that's about it.
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This guy isn't very good at his job, but here's one perspective from Pettine's comments today:
#Browns Pettine sounded as if CB Johnson Bademosi and WR Marlon Moore are locks to make team for special teams play. Moore will also play WR
Not a fan of keeping Moore over Jennings or Lenz. Jennings and Lenz can play STs. Tabor can use Poyer or others to fill Moore's spot.
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Things are getting too cordial.
All of you are idiots.
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Things are getting too cordial.
All of you are idiots.
Things are getting too cordial.
All of you are idiots.
Kumbaya Timmy.
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I don't see how Jennings doesn't make the roster. I think Pryor ends up being
qb3/wr ....
But Jennings and Benjamin have been really getting serious notice on special teams.
Jennings is a legit wr, and st ace. Meanwhile, our special teams have been kicking ass
in the preseason so far...except for some dumb penalties.
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Pryor may only want to be concerned about WR roster spot at this point. Viewing threw the preseason games of some of the 3rd string QB's with experience may have Shaw and Lewis both in trouble, take a look, but some talks may begin at cut time if it happens at all.
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Pryor may only want to be concerned about WR roster spot at this point. Viewing threw the preseason games of some of the 3rd string QB's with experience may have Shaw and Lewis both in trouble, take a look, but some talks may begin at cut time if it happens at all.
Pryor may only want to be concerned about WR roster spot at this point. Viewing threw the preseason games of some of the 3rd string QB's with experience may have Shaw and Lewis both in trouble, take a look, but some talks may begin at cut time if it happens at all.
Pettine made it clear that the only way Pryor makes it on the team is to show what he can do in games. Specifically needs to be well enough to play against Tampa.
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Okay, I'm going to throw this back on 2 broken stilts:
1) Bowe - but I'm sort of worried about the drop off in his stats since 2011 showing me at least a lost step or 2 + bad hammy today.
2) Hartline - if my stance above looks crack pipe - I was wondering if we wasted cake on Hartline.
3) Gabriel
4) Hawkins - I read some compelling arguments/questions about why he's a lock; but he practices hard and he remains a Pettine fave.
5) Pryor - He offers us too much to cut. That said, Carolina might need to replace Benjamin enough to part with defensive help we could use.
6) Benjamin
If number 5 above shakes out it opens room for Wynn, Jennings, or Moore. If not, Wynn or Jennings can land on the practice squad.
I think I had a false positive on Lenz after the scrimmage. Everyone matching up with Bademosi seems to have days like that. I really think the coaching staff is trying this cornerback thing to justify a potential decision to choose Bademosi as our STs ace who looks to offer us 2 different positions in the secondary. I wouldn't be comfortable if we ever had to look to him at Safety or Corner right now. The sad thing is Marlon Moore does pretty much everything that's asked of him on offense. He's even willing to throw the final block Manziel scored on or catch the ball when he wasn't causing the STs fumble before we scored. Punt team gunner isn't a position a lot of veterans want to play in this league. It involves staring into a inside-outside double press; and our 2 guys were really good at that for us in 2014.
This is going to get interesting down the stretch. Some of the guys brought in can't shake off nagging injuries while some undrafted FA guys are raising eye brows in just about every small window of opportunity they get. Unfortunately, Vince Mayle didn't have a good night.
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Okay, I'm going to throw this back on 2 broken stilts:
1) Bowe - but I'm sort of worried about the drop off in his stats since 2011 showing me at least a lost step or 2 + bad hammy today.
2) Hartline - if my stance above looks crack pipe - I was wondering if we wasted cake on Hartline.
3) Gabriel
4) Hawkins - I read some compelling arguments/questions about why he's a lock; but he practices hard and he remains a Pettine fave.
5) Pryor - He offers us too much to cut. That said, Carolina might need to replace Benjamin enough to part with defensive help we could use.
6) Benjamin
If number 5 above shakes out it opens room for Wynn, Jennings, or Moore. If not, Wynn or Jennings can land on the practice squad.
I think I had a false positive on Lenz after the scrimmage. Everyone matching up with Bademosi seems to have days like that. I really think the coaching staff is trying this cornerback thing to justify a potential decision to choose Bademosi as our STs ace who looks to offer us 2 different positions in the secondary. I wouldn't be comfortable if we ever had to look to him at Safety or Corner right now. The sad thing is Marlon Moore does pretty much everything that's asked of him on offense. He's even willing to throw the final block Manziel scored on or catch the ball when he wasn't causing the STs fumble before we scored. Punt team gunner isn't a position a lot of veterans want to play in this league. It involves staring into a inside-outside double press; and our 2 guys were really good at that for us in 2014.
This is going to get interesting down the stretch. Some of the guys brought in can't shake off nagging injuries while some undrafted FA guys are raising eye brows in just about every small window of opportunity they get. Unfortunately, Vince Mayle didn't have a good night.
This is going to get interesting down the stretch. Some of the guys brought in can't shake off nagging injuries while some undrafted FA guys are raising eye brows in just about every small window of opportunity they get. Unfortunately, Vince Mayle didn't have a good night.
heck...it's interesting now......and very hard to figure what their strategy is gonna be.......keep the "best"....keep a few of each type....dunno.....
But.....thinking for the long haul and as close as some of these guys seem in talent/production.....Id say the BEST strategy would be to keep as many as possible.....even if it means PS.....
And the guys we can put on PS are Wynn, Mayle, Jennings and Lenz......everyone else either makes the team or gets waived.....period.
IF we keep the youngsters, then we lose the vets.....(Pryor, Hawk, Gabe, Benji, etc).....
So, it makes sense to me to keep the vets and see how they do.... and if not too good, then we can activate someone from PS.....
But the other way around?.....(keep the kids)....then where do we go if or when they fail?.....
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Good thoughts guys. Bottom line is that Farmer & Pettine are REALLY going to be working overtime on many of these decisions, but it beats the easy cut decisions that had to be made in past years.
We'll see.
Mike
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This is going to get interesting down the stretch. Some of the guys brought in can't shake off nagging injuries while some undrafted FA guys are raising eye brows in just about every small window of opportunity they get. Unfortunately, Vince Mayle didn't have a good night.
heck...it's interesting now......and very hard to figure what their strategy is gonna be.......keep the "best"....keep a few of each type....dunno.....
But.....thinking for the long haul and as close as some of these guys seem in talent/production.....Id say the BEST strategy would be to keep as many as possible.....even if it means PS.....
And the guys we can put on PS are Wynn, Mayle, Jennings and Lenz......everyone else either makes the team or gets waived.....period.
IF we keep the youngsters, then we lose the vets.....(Pryor, Hawk, Gabe, Benji, etc).....
So, it makes sense to me to keep the vets and see how they do.... and if not too good, then we can activate someone from PS.....
But the other way around?.....(keep the kids)....then where do we go if or when they fail?.....
heck...it's interesting now......and very hard to figure what their strategy is gonna be.......keep the "best"....keep a few of each type....dunno.....
But.....thinking for the long haul and as close as some of these guys seem in talent/production.....Id say the BEST strategy would be to keep as many as possible.....even if it means PS.....
And the guys we can put on PS are Wynn, Mayle, Jennings and Lenz......everyone else either makes the team or gets waived.....period.
IF we keep the youngsters, then we lose the vets.....(Pryor, Hawk, Gabe, Benji, etc).....
So, it makes sense to me to keep the vets and see how they do.... and if not too good, then we can activate someone from PS.....
But the other way around?.....(keep the kids)....then where do we go if or when they fail?.....
A couple things entered my mind as I read an interesting debate about Hawk being a lock vrs why is he a lock?:
1) Tour brought up some excellent points even though Z reminded that Hawk is a Pettine fave (for good reasons imo).
2) How many times last year with his lack of size in the slot got Hoyer to refrain from throwing a quick slant because of the wing spans/hands in the air from pass rushers ranging from 6-2 to 6-6? Think about it, if the guy is short you can't throw those high and it isn't like we have Randy Moss clearing out underneath for Wes Welker here. If there becomes a reason to insert Manziel - does this get complicated even more?
Cincy decided to upgrade Hawk's lack of height and lack of TDs with taller targets; and nobody made them sorry for doing so. They like their skyline package that Dalton can throw kites to especially in the red zone. In addition, they also drafted a RB like Gio Bernard sort of like us drafting Duke Johnson to attack certain parts of the defense like the flats and grey areas between the flats and hook zones. However, these are areas the QB's passes can clear the pass rushers much easier for shorter/compact targets. Hawk is still a good player to put out there and even consider moving around in certain situations. However, he's not always the best target for our QBs especially if Flip wants to throw a lot of short slant passes this year.
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