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2015 Pre-season Game 3 @ Tampa Bay

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  • @blowe said:

    Shelton did not stand out like he did in weeks 1 and 2 but I that goes for good and bad not standing out. Not bad for a rookie if you don't see those rookie mistakes.

    Can't say for certain but I think he was getting doubled almost all game long.

    It looks to me like he won't be the pass rushing force he was at Washington (maybe he will if we really limit his snaps), but we drafted him to stop the run. Pass rushing was just gravy so if he can't do it at this level we probably still would have drafted him. Anyone else see the same?

    @wargograw said:

    It looks to me like he won't be the pass rushing force he was at Washington (maybe he will if we really limit his snaps), but we drafted him to stop the run. Pass rushing was just gravy so if he can't do it at this level we probably still would have drafted him. Anyone else see the same?

    Shelton last night was only used as a run stopper last night. He was over penetrating RB's the 1st 2 games but last night he was holding up block and chopping down RB's in the hole. This guy is going to be something when he can Rush QB and still look for ball carrier at same speed.

  • Shelton is amazing. He helped make a tackle of a rb...at the sideline. That's scary intensity, folks.

    He was great last night - I don't see any criticism of him at all. You just wait til regular season - what he

    does will get even more appreciation.

  • @blowe said:

    Shelton did not stand out like he did in weeks 1 and 2 but I that goes for good and bad not standing out. Not bad for a rookie if you don't see those rookie mistakes.

    Can't say for certain but I think he was getting doubled almost all game long.

    It looks to me like he won't be the pass rushing force he was at Washington (maybe he will if we really limit his snaps), but we drafted him to stop the run. Pass rushing was just gravy so if he can't do it at this level we probably still would have drafted him. Anyone else see the same?

    @wargograw said:

    It looks to me like he won't be the pass rushing force he was at Washington (maybe he will if we really limit his snaps), but we drafted him to stop the run. Pass rushing was just gravy so if he can't do it at this level we probably still would have drafted him. Anyone else see the same?

    Saw Shelton trotting to the sideline on a few passing down and distance situations. Saw big Phil doubled on one pass rush. Would expect the same, if Shelton is in there. Just opens rush lanes for others...

    Those two are going to wear out the middle of a few O-lines this season.

    @gumby73 said:

    TB had 3 days to prepare. We had 10 days to prep, not that means anything in preseason but we finally start to see our formula to win some games with a tough schedule. Win games up front on offense and defensive lines, don't turn the ball over and create turnovers. Run the ball and run the Clock. Josh Mc Cown is showing this team he is one tough Bitch and has got his teammates on his side on both sides of the ball, but his pocket breaking down skills still is hard to watch and very troublesome. No wonder we dink and dunk and when that gets shut down we maybe screwed such as Hoyer was?

    The prep time difference is a bit sobering, but I doubt we started prepping before Monday to create a "normal" week for the staff. It's their dress rehearsal as well...

    Not too concerned about Josh's pocket presence. His general sense of security seemed very tied to his WR compliment for a given play. No better evidence than his "targets" of Bowe.

  • I wish we could somehow send a Bowe to Carolina. Bibbs should see a lot of time at move te. Screw Gilbert being 4th rounder I'd cut my losses now.

  • I just finished watching the 1st half. There were some good things, some really good things and some bad things. I leave the 1st half thinking McCown took too many hits, and couple of them hard. If he wants to start all 16 games, that needs to stop.

    That being said and all things considered, we looked good in all 3 phases.

  • Flugs, what were you in?

    I think it's time for another "guess the 53" thread. I love those.

    @wargograw said:

    Flugs, what were you in?

    Archie Bunker's old fraternity - Sigma Phi Epsilon.

  • Admittedly I wasn't able to pay too close attention to the game, I was doing a fantasy draft, drinking and shit talking.

    Did big Phil get on the field any snaps? If so, how did he hold up?

  • All right. I'm all in on josh mccown. This cat can still play and our line is helping him out.

  • didn't like seeing Krugs get man handled by a TE on that rushing TD. And no that guys wasn't holding him. Krugs needs to learn how to pop guys off him better, especially TE's who have no business handling him like that.

  • 1. For what McCown is, he fits this team well. Smart, mobile, confident. He knows what his role is, and he can do it.

    2. Where is the below-average part of this team (besides qb)? Maybe receiver, but I think they are solid, esp. if Bowe can reach his potential. My point is the Browns are strong at all levels on defense. Way above average on o-line. Good at rb and te. McCown should feel no pressure to do too much, which he felt all last season with TB. If he plays the game manager role well, no game is UN-winnable.

    3. Not only is the defense stout, but they look like they're gonna get lots of turnovers. They had their hands on several balls last night - Jameis easily could've had 3-4 picks.

    4. Loved seeing Johnny with McCown on the sideline. You can just see the friendship they have and the easiness of their relationship. It's so much better than last season. I'm really hoping that it leads to a special season.

    I know it's pre-season, but I'm excited about this team.

  • Watching the second half of the 3rd and then the 4th, the Meder kid from Ashland that they picked up late last year was making people look stupid. 5 tackles and a sack I think, just driving linemen into the QB.

  • wait, are people in this thread actually expressing disappointment that mccown doesn't look very good? JESUS CHRIST. This is who mccown is. He is terrible. He has proven that for over a decade. He proved that for tampa a ton more last year. You guys actually need to see josh mccown stink it up in a meaningless preseason game to know how bad he is?

    We know going into the season that we are going to be terrible at qb. That's done. set. all figured out. No point in talking about it anymore.

  • Now I know Taco's can give you intestinal diarrhea , I did not realize it could give you oral diarrhea. You learn something every day I guess.

  • McCown vs. TB.

    17-23

    117 yards

    2 td's

    0 int

    Oh. My.. God.

    Worst ever.

  • wait, are people in this thread actually expressing disappointment that mccown doesn't look very good? JESUS CHRIST. This is who mccown is. He is terrible. He has proven that for over a decade. He proved that for tampa a ton more last year. You guys actually need to see josh mccown stink it up in a meaningless preseason game to know how bad he is?

    We know going into the season that we are going to be terrible at qb. That's done. set. all figured out. No point in talking about it anymore.

    @tacosman said:

    wait, are people in this thread actually expressing disappointment that mccown doesn't look very good? JESUS CHRIST. This is who mccown is. He is terrible. He has proven that for over a decade. He proved that for tampa a ton more last year. You guys actually need to see josh mccown stink it up in a meaningless preseason game to know how bad he is?

    We know going into the season that we are going to be terrible at qb. That's done. set. all figured out. No point in talking about it anymore.

    Then shut the fuck up.

  • wait, are people in this thread actually expressing disappointment that mccown doesn't look very good? JESUS CHRIST. This is who mccown is. He is terrible. He has proven that for over a decade. He proved that for tampa a ton more last year. You guys actually need to see josh mccown stink it up in a meaningless preseason game to know how bad he is?

    We know going into the season that we are going to be terrible at qb. That's done. set. all figured out. No point in talking about it anymore.

    @tacosman said:

    wait, are people in this thread actually expressing disappointment that mccown doesn't look very good? JESUS CHRIST. This is who mccown is. He is terrible. He has proven that for over a decade. He proved that for tampa a ton more last year. You guys actually need to see josh mccown stink it up in a meaningless preseason game to know how bad he is?

    We know going into the season that we are going to be terrible at qb. That's done. set. all figured out. No point in talking about it anymore.

    He fuck your boyfriend?

  • @tacosman said:

    wait, are people in this thread actually expressing disappointment that mccown doesn't look very good? JESUS CHRIST. This is who mccown is. He is terrible. He has proven that for over a decade. He proved that for tampa a ton more last year. You guys actually need to see josh mccown stink it up in a meaningless preseason game to know how bad he is?

    We know going into the season that we are going to be terrible at qb. That's done. set. all figured out. No point in talking about it anymore.

    He fuck your boyfriend?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    He fuck your boyfriend?

    As much as I used to hate that, I love it for this douchebag 😆

  • It's a classic...

    Actually could have been in the running for the 2015 T-shirt tag line...

  • McCown vs. TB.

    17-23

    117 yards

    2 td's

    0 int

    Oh. My.. God.

    Worst ever.

    @aggie-brown-fan said:

    McCown vs. TB.

    17-23

    117 yards

    2 td's

    0 int

    Oh. My.. God.

    Worst ever.

    I have only had the pleasure of watching the Bills game but Mccown doesn't look like a guy who should be starting in the NFL