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Survey Wednesday 9/2/15

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  • W wargograw

    Only since 04. Sure VT's been better actually but it was in the Big East before so I don't think you can compare although regardless, Clemson won its NC in the 90s.

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    Only since 04. VT was in the Big East before so I don't think you can compare although regardless, Clemson won its NC in the 90s.

    All time records, for what this is worth:

    Va. Tech 676/435/44 11-17 in bowls

    Clemson 669/448/44 18-18 in bowls

    And here are their respective final AP Rankings since 2000:

    Year Va. Tech.....Clemson

    2000 6.................16

    2001 18........unranked

    2002 18........unranked

    2003 unranked....22

    2004 10..........unranked

    2005 7...............21

    2006 19.........unranked

    2007 9................21

    2008 13.........unranked

    2009 10........24

    2010 16........unranked

    2011 21.......22

    2012 unranked....22

    2013 unranked....11

    2014 unranked....15

    I think overall during this period Va. Tech has been the higher ranked program evidenced by the higher rank in bold....with the exception of the last 3 years.

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      W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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      It was better program. Then better program in the last 25 years. Now we're in some weird 2004/2000 (whichever makes Clemson look worse) cutoff.

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        It was better program. Then better program in the last 25 years. Now we're in some weird 2004/2000 (whichever makes Clemson look worse) cutoff.

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        @wargograw said:

        It was better program. Then better program in the last 25 years. Now we're in some weird 2004/2000 (whichever makes Clemson look worse) cutoff.

        If you go back into the 80s Clemson was the better program....won a national tltle. Since about 1990 though, as I said, I think they are pretty equal.

        My point is that Spurrier cannot complain about OSU scheduling non-conference cupcakes. That behavior has been an SEC specialty for decades. And while he plays Clemson, they play Va. Tech.....a very comparable opponent for the non-conf. schedule.

        And it is the Big Ten...not the SEC that has now adopted the policy of not playing FCS schools. (though certainly there enough lower rung FBS programs to fill the cupcake pan.....like TCPO's Coastal Carolina team).

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          1. Brown' first round pick a few years ago Phil Taylor is now gone.......who was the worst Browns first round pick taken since 1999?

          Easy... that'd be Wheezy...

          2. Per CBS sports the following are the over/under in number of wins expected for each AFC North team:

          Ravens 9.0 wins UNDER

          Steelrs 8.5 wins OVER

          Bengals 8.5 wins OVER

          Browns- 6.5 wins OVER

          3. Which 4 teams do you pick to make the College Football Playoffs at the end of the year?

          At this point... no idea... but gun to head: Buckeyes - BAMA - Auburn - TCU

          4. Read this article about Steve Spurrier complaining about Ohio State's schedule:

          http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25286976

          A coach of an SEC team complaining about a weak non-conference schedule by a team from another league. Is he a fucking idiot...or what?

          I have no issue with Spurrier on this specific. The buckeyes' non-conference schedule has been a joke for a long time. At least the in-season schedule...

          That said our Post-season schedule last year was pretty tough... much tougher than Spurrie's...

          5. Which US city would you absolutely stay away from visiting because of perceived danger?

          Parma, Ohio... bunch of badass Polacks run there...

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          Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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          @tour2ma said:

          Parma, Ohio... bunch of badass Polacks run there...

          I just found out Jamie Meder is a Parma boy.

          I know he's a badass, but I don't know if he's from a "certain ethnic" heritage.

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            @tour2ma said:

            Parma, Ohio... bunch of badass Polacks run there...

            I just found out Jamie Meder is a Parma boy.

            I know he's a badass, but I don't know if he's from a "certain ethnic" heritage.

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            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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            @canton-dawg said:

            I just found out Jamie Meder is a Parma boy.

            He graduated from my HS...

            ... the century after I did. 😮

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              @canton-dawg said:

              I just found out Jamie Meder is a Parma boy.

              He graduated from my HS...

              ... the century after I did. 😮

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              @tour2ma said:

              He graduated from my HS...

              ... the century after I did. 😮

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                  Here is this week's survey....give your opinions or answers:

                  1. Brown' first round pick a few years ago Phil Taylor is now gone.......who was the worst Browns first round pick taken since 1999?

                  2. Per CBS sports the following are the over/under in number of wins expected for each AFC North team:

                  Ravens 9 wins

                  Steelers 8.5 wins

                  Bengals 8.5 wins

                  Browns 6.5 wins

                  Say whether you would take the over or under for each of these.

                  3. Which 4 teams do you pick to make the College Football Playoffs at the end of the year?

                  4. Read this article about Steve Spurrier complaining about Ohio State's schedule:

                  http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25286976

                  A coach of an SEC team complaining about a weak non-conference schedule by a team from another league. Is he a fucking idiot...or what?

                  5. Which US city would you absolutely stay away from visiting because of perceived danger?

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                  Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Here is this week's survey....give your opinions or answers:

                  1. Brown' first round pick a few years ago Phil Taylor is now gone.......who was the worst Browns first round pick taken since 1999?

                  Courtney Brown

                  2. Per CBS sports the following are the over/under in number of wins expected for each AFC North team:

                  Ravens 9 wins Over

                  Steelers 8.5 wins Over

                  Bengals 8.5 wins over

                  Browns 6.5 wins under

                  Say whether you would take the over or under for each of these.

                  3. Which 4 teams do you pick to make the College Football Playoffs at the end of the year?

                  Ohio State Alabama Baylor TCU

                  4. Read this article about Steve Spurrier complaining about Ohio State's schedule:

                  http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25286976

                  A coach of an SEC team complaining about a weak non-conference schedule by a team from another league. Is he a fucking idiot...or what? Yes, and he needs to shut up

                  5. Which US city would you absolutely stay away from visiting because of perceived danger?

                  Baltimore
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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by gftChris
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                    1. Brown' first round pick a few years ago Phil Taylor is now gone.......who was the worst Browns first round pick taken since 1999?
                    By talent, Richardson. Though since we got a 1 back for him, not sure.

                    2. Per CBS sports the following are the over/under in number of wins expected for each AFC North team:
                    Ravens 9 wins Over
                    Steelers 8.5 wins Over
                    Bengals 8.5 wins over
                    Browns 6.5 wins under
                    Say whether you would take the over or under for each of these.


                    3. Which 4 teams do you pick to make the College Football Playoffs at the end of the year?
                    OSU, Alabama, then anything could happen


                    4. Read this article about Steve Spurrier complaining about Ohio State's schedule:
                    http://www.cbssports...otball/25286976
                    A coach of an SEC team complaining about a weak non-conference schedule by a team from another league. Is he a fucking idiot...or what? I'm not sure why all conferences aren't the same number of teams, then everyone just plays everyone in their conference (maybe twice) and the best teams progress. But it is what it is and I don't care.

                    5. Which US city would you absolutely stay away from visiting because of perceived danger? - Plenty, though Detroit would be up there.

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                      @canton-dawg said:

                      I just found out Jamie Meder is a Parma boy.

                      He graduated from my HS...

                      ... the century after I did. 😮

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                      @tour2ma said:

                      He graduated from my HS...

                      ... the century after I did. 😮

                      Are you sure that isn't A CENTURY after you did? 😛

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                        T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                        Hey Gipper, you ready to change that Ariz. State prediction yet? 38-17 Ags. Chavis is already impacting the A&M D.

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                          Where'd he pick ASU? That's turrible. What a game. What a night.

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            That Frosh DT #5 looks like a monster in the making...

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                              W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                              Quickest kid off the snap I've ever seen as an underclassman. And he's only about 6'0" and 330. Also, they had to order new weights in the weight room for him to squat. He's a beast.

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                                That Frosh DT #5 looks like a monster in the making...

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                                @tour2ma said:

                                That Frosh DT #5 looks like a monster in the making...

                                I knew a line guy like you would appreciate that guy. That first time he split the line and almost took the handoff was a play of beauty. Saw an interview after the game with Miles Garrett who gave all the credit to Chavis "for putting us in the right positions to make plays". He's gonna be a top 5 pick if he stays healthy. Rare to have a DE that strong with 4.46 40 speed. They were double and sometimes even triple teaming him last night. Also rare to have a DT with the quickness off the ball of #5. Our D won that game last night. First time since the days of RC Slocum.

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                                  W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                                  Actually just since 2010, but who's counting?

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                                    @tour2ma said:

                                    That Frosh DT #5 looks like a monster in the making...

                                    I knew a line guy like you would appreciate that guy. That first time he split the line and almost took the handoff was a play of beauty. Saw an interview after the game with Miles Garrett who gave all the credit to Chavis "for putting us in the right positions to make plays". He's gonna be a top 5 pick if he stays healthy. Rare to have a DE that strong with 4.46 40 speed. They were double and sometimes even triple teaming him last night. Also rare to have a DT with the quickness off the ball of #5. Our D won that game last night. First time since the days of RC Slocum.

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                                    @texasag1969 said:

                                    First time since the days of RC Slocum.

                                    Wrecking Crew II?

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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      First time since the days of RC Slocum.

                                      Wrecking Crew II?

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                                      @tour2ma said:

                                      Wrecking Crew II?

                                      It's the first time I uttered those words without a smirk on my face in years. It says a lot when Chavis says these are he two best DE's he's had at the same time on one team. Add #5 to that mix and it's lethal for QB's.

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                                        Hey Gipper, you ready to change that Ariz. State prediction yet? 38-17 Ags. Chavis is already impacting the A&M D.

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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        Hey Gipper, you ready to change that Ariz. State prediction yet? 38-17 Ags. Chavis is already impacting the A&M D.

                                        A number of people had AZ St. going to the Field of Four........you still never know.....Ohio St. lost its first game last year....and remind me....what happened there? 😳

                                        Hey....if they go undefeated from here on out....winning the Pac12 title game, you never know. Three of the four teams in last year's Field of Four had a loss.

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                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          Hey Gipper, you ready to change that Ariz. State prediction yet? 38-17 Ags. Chavis is already impacting the A&M D.

                                          A number of people had AZ St. going to the Field of Four........you still never know.....Ohio St. lost its first game last year....and remind me....what happened there? 😳

                                          Hey....if they go undefeated from here on out....winning the Pac12 title game, you never know. Three of the four teams in last year's Field of Four had a loss.

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          A number of people had AZ St. going to the Field of Four........you still never know.....Ohio St. lost its first game last year....and remind me....what happened there? 😳

                                          Hey....if they go undefeated from here on out....winning the Pac12 title game, you never know. Three of the four teams in last year's Field of Four had a loss.

                                          They're good enough to win out. Very well balanced team. But they caught a talented D that acquired one of the best D coordinators in the business in the offseason. At least 3 off the line will play in the NFL one of these days. And at least one of those safeties will be there too. Funny thing is that their 2 best LB's did not play, one injured and 1 suspended the first two games.

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