Quinn not NFL caliber
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I sick of the fact that I must keep referencing my thread:
1.First off I would like to request that before responding to this post you watch this video...
2. Secondly I would like you to take a visit to this url, it is Brady Quinns Scout.com profile from college:
http://car.scout.com/a.z?s=123&p=8&...amp;nid=2477577
3. Thirdly read this quote from a quinn interview:
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Ken(Seattle): Brady since the season has ended there have been many questions regarding arm strength and if you can throw the long ball. What would you say to your critics?Brady Quinn: That's the first time I've ever heard anything regarding my arm strength. I've never had any problems throwing the ball down the field."
4. Read this article, it may not say the best things about Quinn, but it does say he has a solid arm
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/VIPIMP/Brady_Quinn/4086
5. John Murphy Yahoo Sports "Quinn overcame questions about his accuracy, pure arm strength and pocket presence a year ago to post one of the best seasons of any quarterback in Notre Dame history. He jumps right back into the fire this Saturday in the Irish's home opener against Penn State, a team that features three of the best linebackers in college football. "
6. In this video you can see Quinn toss two 50 yarders with ease
http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/uncategorize...ady-quinn-38251
I hope this finally shuts the haters up. The Browns kept Quinns throws short because they're testing him out, and then let him work his way up to the bombs. I was at the houston game when he threw the pretty 40 yarder to Braylon, and you can see littered throughout his highlight video at the top that he can make ALL the throws, and accurately. Alot of people are treating him like he cant throw a ball past the 35 yard mark when it is well known that he tops out in the mid 70's. Its B.S. that he is getting the shaft when it comes to talks about his arm because he is consistently compared to the likes of J Russel and Derek Anderson, those guys dont have good arms, they have rocket launchers. Quinns arm is just as good as Tom Brady's and Peyton Mannings. I hope this threat has changed the mind of those who question the distance that quinn can go.
Oh... are you ppl still hungry? Heres some more!
Found it!
Holy shit that was a throw!!
Quinn is an NFL QB, he has a GREAT arm, he is NOT a dink and dunker, and he WILL start for the Browns. He is most likely chillin with Daboll right this second.
I sick of the fact that I must keep referencing my thread:
Oh... are you ppl still hungry? Heres some more!
Quinn is an NFL QB, he has a GREAT arm, he is NOT a dink and dunker, and he WILL start for the Browns. He is most likely chillin with Daboll right this second.
That throw into the back of the truck is basically what the NFL deep ball throw is. You are trying to hit an area the siz of that truck bed that your WR can adjust and make the catch. The fact that Quinn hit that dude standing the truck bed is just impressive.
Of course there was no one coming at him when he threw it
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TheJokersWILD said:
If that's true then why does it seem like they are setting the offense up for Quinn's skill set?It seems that way to you because you are one of Brady's Ladys.
Whether you'll admit it is not relevant.
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If Mangini really thought Quinn was his guy he would have annouced him as the starter end of story, that he has not annouced Quinn as his QB is more telling that he is not that impressed with Brady and he may get rid of both Quinn and Anderson and its not a smoke screen as most Browns fans want to believe.
Really?!?!? Come on Sony. If Mangini did that, with either guy, no matter who he likes, it would hurt their trade value. The new front office hasn't shown any commitment to either guy to protect the trade value of whom ever they plan to trade. Or they may really plan on keeping both and letting them fight it out in camp.
The real fact is that the new front office hasn't said a single real word about either of the QBs. It is all speculation on who they like, don't like, or if they don't like either. There has been nothing telling in any form.
Saying Mangini hasn't named Quinn the start is telling, is like saying Mangini hasn't named Cribbs the starting returner is telling that he'll be gone. But if I were to play the "more telling game", i'd say the following have been more telling that Quinn will have to lose the job to DA, if DA remains on the roster, and that DA is the odd man out:
1. After the firing of RAC and Savage, Lerner trotted out Joe Thomas and Brady Quin as the spokes people for the team. You know that Quinn being put out as the face of the franchise was a topic when Lerner interviewed coach candidates.
2. Mangini come from the BB coaching tree. He was an assistant coach when Weiss was there. So Mangini will have the skinny on Quinn, and Mangini has tried to run the Patriots type O in NY (obviously not so much with Favre).
3. DA is Favre-esc, in that he has a huge arm but makes bad mistakes (DA is not the athlete Favre was and can't get away with them like Favre could). That didn't just work out so well for him.
4. Brian Daboll was a WR coach in NE with Weiss as the O-coordinator. He is gonna end up running an O similar to what NE ran under Weiss. Obviously with his own new twists from other systems. But if the base is Weiss-esc, Quinn is the guy that already knows it, gets it, and had high success in it at the college level.
Masters said:
1. After the firing of RAC and Savage, Lerner trotted out Joe Thomas and Brady Quin as the spokes people for the team. You know that Quinn being put out as the face of the franchise was a topic when Lerner interviewed coach candidates.2. Mangini come from the BB coaching tree. He was an assistant coach when Weiss was there. So Mangini will have the skinny on Quinn, and Mangini has tried to run the Patriots type O in NY (obviously not so much with Favre).
3. DA is Favre-esc, in that he has a huge arm but makes bad mistakes (DA is not the athlete Favre was and can't get away with them like Favre could). That didn't just work out so well for him.
4. Brian Daboll was a WR coach in NE with Weiss as the O-coordinator. He is gonna end up running an O similar to what NE ran under Weiss. Obviously with his own new twists from other systems. But if the base is Weiss-esc, Quinn is the guy that already knows it, gets it, and had high success in it at the college level.
Wow the connection is so simple it only takes a dozen or so sentences to explain it. And at the moment this mystical offense only lives in the minds of BQ nation. But maybe you're onto something here masterbater......
....or then again, BQ Nation has had a tendency to pull this kind of stuff out of its ass and etch it in stone, only to have it found to be wrong.
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I sick of the fact that I must keep referencing my thread:
Oh... are you ppl still hungry? Heres some more!
Quinn is an NFL QB, he has a GREAT arm, he is NOT a dink and dunker, and he WILL start for the Browns. He is most likely chillin with Daboll right this second.
That throw into the back of the truck is basically what the NFL deep ball throw is. You are trying to hit an area the siz of that truck bed that your WR can adjust and make the catch. The fact that Quinn hit that dude standing the truck bed is just impressive.
Of course there was no one coming at him when he threw it
Masters said:
That throw into the back of the truck is basically what the NFL deep ball throw is. You are trying to hit an area the siz of that truck bed that your WR can adjust and make the catch. The fact that Quinn hit that dude standing the truck bed is just impressive.So Quinn's best throw ever was in a parking lot into the back of a truck? Was this at a tailgate party? Was it a NERF ball?
Back to FOOTBALL for a moment....ole weinee arm's only attempt at a deep ball flailed in the air like a punt. 10 mins later his ass was back on the bench.
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did you even watch the video or read the articles xxxxtard?
oh wait, of course you diddnt... I forgot who I was speaking to.
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Masters said:
1. After the firing of RAC and Savage, Lerner trotted out Joe Thomas and Brady Quin as the spokes people for the team. You know that Quinn being put out as the face of the franchise was a topic when Lerner interviewed coach candidates.2. Mangini come from the BB coaching tree. He was an assistant coach when Weiss was there. So Mangini will have the skinny on Quinn, and Mangini has tried to run the Patriots type O in NY (obviously not so much with Favre).
3. DA is Favre-esc, in that he has a huge arm but makes bad mistakes (DA is not the athlete Favre was and can't get away with them like Favre could). That didn't just work out so well for him.
4. Brian Daboll was a WR coach in NE with Weiss as the O-coordinator. He is gonna end up running an O similar to what NE ran under Weiss. Obviously with his own new twists from other systems. But if the base is Weiss-esc, Quinn is the guy that already knows it, gets it, and had high success in it at the college level.
Wow the connection is so simple it only takes a dozen or so sentences to explain it. And at the moment this mystical offense only lives in the minds of BQ nation. But maybe you're onto something here masterbater......
....or then again, BQ Nation has had a tendency to pull this kind of stuff out of its ass and etch it in stone, only to have it found to be wrong.
Wow the connection is so simple it only takes a dozen or so sentences to explain it. And at the moment this mystical offense only lives in the minds of BQ nation. But maybe you're onto something here masterbater......
....or then again, BQ Nation has had a tendency to pull this kind of stuff out of its ass and etch it in stone, only to have it found to be wrong.
As far as playing the "more telling game", yeah, it only takes a few sentances to explain it. It's called logical thinking. Nothing mythical about an offense that already exists (Weiss/NE's style where these coaches come from) and coaching tendancies.
I have etched nothing in stone. Simply pointed out that the logic train points toward Quinn, based on staff and tendancies. Has nothing to do with your make believe BQ Nation you throw people into, when most you chuck in there are Browns fans. They'd be just as happy w/ DA QB'ing if it was good QB'ing and CLE was winning.
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Masters said:
That throw into the back of the truck is basically what the NFL deep ball throw is. You are trying to hit an area the siz of that truck bed that your WR can adjust and make the catch. The fact that Quinn hit that dude standing the truck bed is just impressive.So Quinn's best throw ever was in a parking lot into the back of a truck? Was this at a tailgate party? Was it a NERF ball?
Back to FOOTBALL for a moment....ole weinee arm's only attempt at a deep ball flailed in the air like a punt. 10 mins later his ass was back on the bench.
So Quinn's best throw ever was in a parking lot into the back of a truck? Was this at a tailgate party? Was it a NERF ball?
Back to FOOTBALL for a moment....ole weinee arm's only attempt at a deep ball flailed in the air like a punt. 10 mins later his ass was back on the bench.
Dude, watch the videos if you are gonna comment. I mean Quinn's highlight reel is filled with those good deep ball throws.
Oh, and the video I am talking about is on a NY street with a NFL football, in a dress shirt, pants, and dress shoes.
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did you even watch the video or read the articles xxxxtard?
oh wait, of course you diddnt... I forgot who I was speaking to.
did you even watch the video or read the articles xxxxtard?
oh wait, of course you diddnt... I forgot who I was speaking to.
Wow BQ's college highlight reel for the 10,000th time. Like nobody else has ever had a highlight reel.
Step out of BQ Fantasyland for a moment.....Anderson had 80 career college TDs of his own, and many of them were a hell of a lot better than a effing jump ball to Samardzija.
Hey I got an idea maybe we can put everybody's highlight reel up next to Ken Dorsey's and choose who should be the starter that way? Whaddaya say?
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did you even watch the video or read the articles xxxxtard?
oh wait, of course you diddnt... I forgot who I was speaking to.
Wow BQ's college highlight reel for the 10,000th time. Like nobody else has ever had a highlight reel.
Step out of BQ Fantasyland for a moment.....Anderson had 80 career college TDs of his own, and many of them were a hell of a lot better than a effing jump ball to Samardzija.
Hey I got an idea maybe we can put everybody's highlight reel up next to Ken Dorsey's and choose who should be the starter that way? Whaddaya say?
Wow BQ's college highlight reel for the 10,000th time. Like nobody else has ever had a highlight reel.
Step out of BQ Fantasyland for a moment.....Anderson had 80 career college TDs of his own, and many of them were a hell of a lot better than a effing jump ball to Samardzija.
Hey I got an idea maybe we can put everybody's highlight reel up next to Ken Dorsey's and choose who should be the starter that way? Whaddaya say?
DA had 79 TDs and 57 INTs, completing 50% of his passes in 3+ years at OSU.
Quinn had 95 TDs and 39 INTs, completing 58% of his passes in 4 years at ND.
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mikeyP72 said:
Im new and this is the first timeYes coming out to the world as a Brady Quinn Fag is a very big step for you. Congrats on coming out of the closet.
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Masters already owned the dumbass, but one caveat on the college stuff: DA led all D1 passers in total INT's thrown for the two year period spanning his junior/senior years.
Yes, his decision making problems are systemic.
DA isn't the answer.
Is Quinn? Not sure. Haven't seen enough.
Would I trade Cutler for Quinn? I'd support the staff if they did it.
All I really know is that DA isn't the answer and we need a QB. Pretty simple, but well beyond Lum's ability to comprehend.
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"I know all of Cleveland has great hopes for Quinn, but the general feeling in the NFL is that heβs too inaccurate and too inconsistent to be a full time starter. Quinn slipped in the draft two years ago for a reason, and that reason was his inability to be accurate on all three levels. As Cleveland makes changes to its roster, donβt count out making a move at quarterback."
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/0...he-cutler-saga/
This is so true. Quinn did not impress me whatsoever when he started. I understand that he hurt his "pinky" finger, but really, this is the NFL is it not? There is a reason Quinn was passed over in the draft by so many teams, and left to squirm on National Television. He isn't very good.
This is so true. Quinn did not impress me whatsoever when he started. I understand that he hurt his "pinky" finger, but really, this is the NFL is it not? There is a reason Quinn was passed over in the draft by so many teams, and left to squirm on National Television. He isn't very good.
There is a reason Adrian Peterson was passed up by 7 other teams. It's called 'stupidity'.
There's a reason Anderson was passed up by a lot of teams until the 6th round - it's called 'he sucks'.
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Masters already owned the dumbass, but one caveat on the college stuff: DA led all D1 passers in total INT's thrown for the two year period spanning his junior/senior years.
Yes, his decision making problems are systemic.
DA isn't the answer.
Is Quinn? Not sure. Haven't seen enough.
Would I trade Cutler for Quinn? I'd support the staff if they did it.
All I really know is that DA isn't the answer and we need a QB. Pretty simple, but well beyond Lum's ability to comprehend.
Masters already owned the dumbass, but one caveat on the college stuff: DA led all D1 passers in total INT's thrown for the two year period spanning his junior/senior years.
Yes, his decision making problems are systemic.
DA isn't the answer.
Is Quinn? Not sure. Haven't seen enough.
Would I trade Cutler for Quinn? I'd support the staff if they did it.
All I really know is that DA isn't the answer and we need a QB. Pretty simple, but well beyond Lum's ability to comprehend.
The last two lines are what Lum doesn't get. People aren't about Quinn as much as they are about DA ain't he answer.
I'd take Cutler in a NY minute. I wanted CLE to draft him originally. Dude can flat out play. Unlike DA, Cutler has shown progress throughout his career.
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This is so true. Quinn did not impress me whatsoever when he started. I understand that he hurt his "pinky" finger, but really, this is the NFL is it not? There is a reason Quinn was passed over in the draft by so many teams, and left to squirm on National Television. He isn't very good.
There is a reason Adrian Peterson was passed up by 7 other teams. It's called 'stupidity'.
There's a reason Anderson was passed up by a lot of teams until the 6th round - it's called 'he sucks'.
There is a reason Adrian Peterson was passed up by 7 other teams. It's called 'stupidity'.
There's a reason Anderson was passed up by a lot of teams until the 6th round - it's called 'he sucks'.
Aaron Rogers had to wait while Alex Smith was taken number 1. How has that worked out as well.
Not to mention CLE wasn't the only team trying to move up to grab Quinn when he dropped.
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Masters already owned the dumbass, but one caveat on the college stuff: DA led all D1 passers in total INT's thrown for the two year period spanning his junior/senior years.
Yes, his decision making problems are systemic.
DA isn't the answer.
Is Quinn? Not sure. Haven't seen enough.
Would I trade Cutler for Quinn? I'd support the staff if they did it.
All I really know is that DA isn't the answer and we need a QB. Pretty simple, but well beyond Lum's ability to comprehend.
Masters already owned the dumbass, but one caveat on the college stuff: DA led all D1 passers in total INT's thrown for the two year period spanning his junior/senior years.
Yes, his decision making problems are systemic.
DA isn't the answer.
Is Quinn? Not sure. Haven't seen enough.
Would I trade Cutler for Quinn? I'd support the staff if they did it.
All I really know is that DA isn't the answer and we need a QB. Pretty simple, but well beyond Lum's ability to comprehend.
I agree in most part but I wouldn't trade for Cutler. Nobody knows if Quinn is the answer. There are alot of people who don't agree about Quinn being a good NFL QB but there are alot of people that do agree that he hasn't had enough time to prove himself and if the franchise dismisses him before they find out then they are just throwing a 1st round pick right out the window which is not wise at all.
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There is a reason Adrian Peterson was passed up by 7 other teams. It's called 'stupidity'.
There's a reason Anderson was passed up by a lot of teams until the 6th round - it's called 'he sucks'.
Aaron Rogers had to wait while Alex Smith was taken number 1. How has that worked out as well.
Not to mention CLE wasn't the only team trying to move up to grab Quinn when he dropped.
Masters said:
Not to mention CLE wasn't the only team trying to move up to grab Quinn when he dropped.Another bullsheeeit BQ Nation fantasy.
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Oh by the way.... Everyone knows Kellen Winslow right? That TE of ours who was traded? He was pretty damn good was he not? Diddnt he make it to the pro-bowl with DA as his starting QB?
Really now, he did?
WOW
I wonder why he preferred some kid who everyone is saying "has no arm" and who is "overrated" to his pro bowl QB?
I wonder why Kellen preferred Brady to DA when DA helped him get to the pro bowl?
Maybe im wrong, but diddnt Kellen like winning above all else? (That and money
)Maaaaaayyyybe.... and this is a "BIG what if" Kellen knew that the TEAM would be better off with Quinn in the cockpit than some no talent ass clown shoe wearing motherxxxxer nicknamed DRIVE ASSASIN
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@inspecta said:
It's on the internet so it must be true. Kinda like how DA is only worth a day two pick....man that sounds like starter material to me!!Hahahahahaha......owned again lumdum...
I am not saying I agree, but at this point I don't disagree. Quinn did fall, as we remember him sitting around waiting to be drafted as team after team passed. At some point before we did, if a team though he was really good, they would have selected him, need or not. At some point in the early teens, the value would have to be deemed too great to pass.
Add in a new staff in town, you just don't know how they felt about BQ.
All i can say is at this point, I wouldn't get too attached to any player.....Quinn included.
If what's his name can march in to Denver and not be satisfied with Cutler, it isn't out of the question we might not be interested in Quinn.
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Masters said:
Not to mention CLE wasn't the only team trying to move up to grab Quinn when he dropped.Another bullsheeeit BQ Nation fantasy.
Another bullsheeeit BQ Nation fantasy.
You seem to look at the Quinn/DA situation as a "spy vs. spy" thing when I look at it as a "what's best for the team" thing. DA was a 6th round pick on Baltimore's practice squad and Quinn was thought of enough to be the franchise QB that he was drafted in the 1st round. You can point at Tom Brady all you want and say "well he was taken in the 6th" but I would just have to kill you for even comparing Tom Brady to Anderson. My point is that just because DA had one good season doesn't mean you throw away a guy you drafted high to be your franchise QB. What reason do we have to believe that DA will get ANY better? He had his time now it's Quinn's time. Just because I think that doesn't mean I am a Quinn fan. Just means that I understand how a franchise operates and if it was my team and Quinn failed then I go out and draft another guy. It's just buisness
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