Matchups Browns/Jets
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This is a big game for the Browns' confidence. A road game against a team who is very similar.
It sounds so cliche, but just don't turn the ball over. I hope the Browns play with a chip on their shoulder, the national and even local media are burying them before the season starts. I think they've improved, we'll see.
23-14 Browns
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Doesn't matter who matches how up that way...
This game boils down to the 2 O-lines vs opponents' D-line. Both QBs need PA to be effective, so the team that runs will have the advantage.
I think we have an O-line edge. It helps us that Richardson will not suit up for his one due to suspension.
Anything you do on here the rest of this week, I am going to piss all over it.
You are starting to sound like my wife...."I don't care" "It doesn't matter" "It doesn't interest me" "I don't care".
You know, I can go home and get that shit......and there at least putting up with it every once in a while I might still get laid.
Anything you do on here the rest of this week, I am going to piss all over it.
You are starting to sound like my wife...."I don't care" "It doesn't matter" "It doesn't interest me" "I don't care".
You know, I can go home and get that shit......and there at least putting up with it every once in a while I might still get laid.
Why not start with my game analysis?
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Anything you do on here the rest of this week, I am going to piss all over it.
You are starting to sound like my wife...."I don't care" "It doesn't matter" "It doesn't interest me" "I don't care".
You know, I can go home and get that shit......and there at least putting up with it every once in a while I might still get laid.
Why not start with my game analysis?
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OK... If you want to compare like things how about coaching staffs?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I look at it as which team has the most heart. That says to me, the Browns will win.
One advantage - is surprise. The Browns know what to expect from the Jets, the Jets
don't know the difference in the Browns defense or offense.
My "analysis" is, the jets will end up on their heels on defense, and be surprised at the Browns offense,
and their qb is going to wonder "WTF" on the stunts and pressure and sacks by the Browns defense.
I remember when I was a teen - the Buckeyes played in the Rose Bowl vs Stanford.
All my rowdy friends and other guys knew Ohio State was going to stomp all over Stanford.
A bunch of us were sitting around playing penny poker, etc, and I decided that Stanford was going to win.
Well, that brought the house down, all the laughing hahaha, so I bet all of them that would bet me a dollar.
Oh, they wanted to bet me more, but I smiled and said "I don't want to take all your money, a dollar will do".
And playing sandlot football, our guys vs other guys, some from a local school, I made the same bet.
The Bucks kicked off, and Jim Plunkett at qb, and Randy Vataha, a speedster, ran a reverse I think it was,
and caught the Bucks off guard. Stanford got a FG, and the stage was set for an upset.
And dang it, Stanford won, I won 14 bucks from 14 guys. I still caught begrudging hell. LOL.
They wondered how I figured it, and I said "emotion". Ohio State was a powerhouse, overconfident.
Stanford was fighting mad, and had that underdog fight going for them, and they had the talent to
make Ohio State miserable, and figured they would.
Woody Hayes wasn't a trick play great coach - it was the famous 3 yrds and a cloud of dust" with a
terrific defense. But Stanford had a very good defense, and an offense that had the talent to really
catch Ohio State completely off guard.
And that's what happened.
So, my analysis of the Browns-Jets game - the game is pretty even, but the Browns have the emotion
of being underdogs with something to prove, and the talent now, to surprise the hell out of the Jets.
Browns will win. But it's pro football, and harder to gage the emotion factor, so I'm not betting everybody a dollar this time.
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As tour said, a better way is to look at position droups - OL & RB versus their front 7, QB & receivers versus their secondary, TEs vs LBers etc.
Our OL/Their DL - roughly a wash. Both elite. Crowell can hopefully pick up extra yards after contact, because he'll get contact early. Duke catching screens might be something for us.
Our QB/receivers versus their secondary - we gotta hope that we catch them before they click, because they have the talent to be elite there as well.
Their LB corps doesn't seem all that, hopefully Barnidge and Housler/Bibbs can abuse it for a ton of 8 yard gains.
On the flip side...
Our DL/Their OL - I'd like to give us the edge, but like with their secondary, it might take a few weeks of live action to really come together. Chris Ivory won't scare anybody.
Our secondary vs their receivers - close. With Marshall as #1 (also yes, we should have jumped all of that for a 5th) Decker can be a #2 like in Denver. Fortunately, we have two pro-bowl calibre corners to take care of them. The don't have much outside of that - we do. Edge us, but barely. If Marshall can beat Haden, it goes the other way.
Their TEs - Jeff Cumberland caught like 20 catches for 250 yards last year, and our LBers are actually pretty handy in coverage. Edge us.
All told, this game will be pretty damn close if both teams schemes are around the same level (slight edge us for having an extra year on D), but home advantage might just swing it for the Jets.
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Yep....I think the Browns and Jets are about as closely matched as teams can be. And, apparently, so do the odds makers.....
But, like Chris said, they have the new system and coaches and we(for the first time ever) have the carry over from last season....
I say our D shows up.....stops the Jets on the runway.....and we take the game........20-13(BROWNS) sounds good to me.....
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Yep....I think the Browns and Jets are about as closely matched as teams can be. And, apparently, so do the odds makers.....
But, like Chris said, they have the new system and coaches and we(for the first time ever) have the carry over from last season....
I say our D shows up.....stops the Jets on the runway.....and we take the game........20-13(BROWNS) sounds good to me.....
Yep....I think the Browns and Jets are about as closely matched as teams can be. And, apparently, so do the odds makers.....
But, like Chris said, they have the new system and coaches and we(for the first time ever) have the carry over from last season....
I say our D shows up.....stops the Jets on the runway.....and we take the game........20-13(BROWNS) sounds good to me.....
I think the Jets have been made a 3 point favorite....which essentially means they see them as equal...but give the 3 pt. home field advantage to them.
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Yep....I think the Browns and Jets are about as closely matched as teams can be. And, apparently, so do the odds makers.....
But, like Chris said, they have the new system and coaches and we(for the first time ever) have the carry over from last season....
I say our D shows up.....stops the Jets on the runway.....and we take the game........20-13(BROWNS) sounds good to me.....
I think the Jets have been made a 3 point favorite....which essentially means they see them as equal...but give the 3 pt. home field advantage to them.
I think the Jets have been made a 3 point favorite....which essentially means they see them as equal...but give the 3 pt. home field advantage to them.
Sounds familiar...
All told, this game will be pretty damn close if both teams schemes are around the same level (slight edge us for having an extra year on D), but home advantage might just swing it for the Jets.
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As tour said, a better way is to look at position droups - OL & RB versus their front 7, QB & receivers versus their secondary, TEs vs LBers etc.
Our OL/Their DL - roughly a wash. Both elite. Crowell can hopefully pick up extra yards after contact, because he'll get contact early. Duke catching screens might be something for us.
Our QB/receivers versus their secondary - we gotta hope that we catch them before they click, because they have the talent to be elite there as well.
Their LB corps doesn't seem all that, hopefully Barnidge and Housler/Bibbs can abuse it for a ton of 8 yard gains.
On the flip side...
Our DL/Their OL - I'd like to give us the edge, but like with their secondary, it might take a few weeks of live action to really come together. Chris Ivory won't scare anybody.
Our secondary vs their receivers - close. With Marshall as #1 (also yes, we should have jumped all of that for a 5th) Decker can be a #2 like in Denver. Fortunately, we have two pro-bowl calibre corners to take care of them. The don't have much outside of that - we do. Edge us, but barely. If Marshall can beat Haden, it goes the other way.
Their TEs - Jeff Cumberland caught like 20 catches for 250 yards last year, and our LBers are actually pretty handy in coverage. Edge us.
All told, this game will be pretty damn close if both teams schemes are around the same level (slight edge us for having an extra year on D), but home advantage might just swing it for the Jets.
All told, this game will be pretty damn close if both teams schemes are around the same level (slight edge us for having an extra year on D), but home advantage might just swing it for the Jets.
But I will let you handle that one then....as the Jets are under a whole new regime....and other than the NY media touting Todd Bowles as the next genius I know nothing about their staff.
And I know little more, but as pointed out salient point would be around a 1st-year, Defensive-minded HC with the team. Jets' Defensive personnel do look reasonably well suited to continue style Bowles employed in SEA, but system is new to them.
Offensively the familiar name of Chan Gailey reappears as OC after two years out of the league. Not a name that is going to strike fear into a an opponent's heart. And again new system was just installed.
STs see Bobby April continuing his tour of the NFL now with his 8th NFL team...
We should have a significant coaching edge.
There are a couple familiar Position Coaches on the Jets staff led by old friend Pepper Johnson in the D-line slot.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
All told, this game will be pretty damn close if both teams schemes are around the same level (slight edge us for having an extra year on D), but home advantage might just swing it for the Jets.
But I will let you handle that one then....as the Jets are under a whole new regime....and other than the NY media touting Todd Bowles as the next genius I know nothing about their staff.
And I know little more, but as pointed out salient point would be around a 1st-year, Defensive-minded HC with the team. Jets' Defensive personnel do look reasonably well suited to continue style Bowles employed in SEA, but system is new to them.
Offensively the familiar name of Chan Gailey reappears as OC after two years out of the league. Not a name that is going to strike fear into a an opponent's heart. And again new system was just installed.
STs see Bobby April continuing his tour of the NFL now with his 8th NFL team...
We should have a significant coaching edge.
There are a couple familiar Position Coaches on the Jets staff led by old friend Pepper Johnson in the D-line slot.
And I know little more, but as pointed out salient point would be around a 1st-year, Defensive-minded HC with the team. Jets' Defensive personnel do look reasonably well suited to continue style Bowles employed in SEA, but system is new to them.
I don't think Bowles was in Seattle....that was Quin.....wasnt Bowles in Arizona?
Offensively the familiar name of Chan Gailey reappears as OC after two years out of the league. Not a name that is going to strike fear into a an opponent's heart. And again new system was just installed.
Yea, Chan Gailey...why do some of these guys keep getting jobs?
STs see Bobby April continuing his tour of the NFL now with his 8th NFL team...
Wouldn't that make him Bobby August? (8th month....8th team....gggggguh)
We should have a significant coaching edge.
You convinced me.
There are a couple familiar Position Coaches on the Jets staff led by old friend Pepper Johnson in the D-line slot.
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So many "experts" have the Browns being a dumpster fire. I just don't see it. I think they surprise people. One thing is for sure - if I'm right, then the Browns MUST beat teams like the Jets.
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