Matchups Browns/Jets

nickers

I like the Browns... I Just think we have a better roster, And just maybe, were better coached (remains to be seen). And I think Tour and Gip need a room LOL.(It must be muskrat love) . Anyway.. I like the Browns 21-17.

gftChris

As tour said, a better way is to look at position droups - OL & RB versus their front 7, QB & receivers versus their secondary, TEs vs LBers etc.

Our OL/Their DL - roughly a wash. Both elite. Crowell can hopefully pick up extra yards after contact, because he'll get contact early. Duke catching screens might be something for us.

Our QB/receivers versus their secondary - we gotta hope that we catch them before they click, because they have the talent to be elite there as well.

Their LB corps doesn't seem all that, hopefully Barnidge and Housler/Bibbs can abuse it for a ton of 8 yard gains.

On the flip side...

Our DL/Their OL - I'd like to give us the edge, but like with their secondary, it might take a few weeks of live action to really come together. Chris Ivory won't scare anybody.

Our secondary vs their receivers - close. With Marshall as #1 (also yes, we should have jumped all of that for a 5th) Decker can be a #2 like in Denver. Fortunately, we have two pro-bowl calibre corners to take care of them. The don't have much outside of that - we do. Edge us, but barely. If Marshall can beat Haden, it goes the other way.

Their TEs - Jeff Cumberland caught like 20 catches for 250 yards last year, and our LBers are actually pretty handy in coverage. Edge us.

All told, this game will be pretty damn close if both teams schemes are around the same level (slight edge us for having an extra year on D), but home advantage might just swing it for the Jets.

Mudfly

Yep....I think the Browns and Jets are about as closely matched as teams can be. And, apparently, so do the odds makers.....

But, like Chris said, they have the new system and coaches and we(for the first time ever) have the carry over from last season....

I say our D shows up.....stops the Jets on the runway.....and we take the game........20-13(BROWNS) sounds good to me.....

The Gipper

@tour2ma said:
OK... If you want to compare like things how about coaching staffs?

Fair enough.

But I will let you handle that one then....as the Jets are under a whole new regime....and other than the NY media touting Todd Bowles as the next genius I know nothing about their staff.

The Gipper

@mudfly said:

Yep....I think the Browns and Jets are about as closely matched as teams can be. And, apparently, so do the odds makers.....

But, like Chris said, they have the new system and coaches and we(for the first time ever) have the carry over from last season....

I say our D shows up.....stops the Jets on the runway.....and we take the game........20-13(BROWNS) sounds good to me.....

I think the Jets have been made a 3 point favorite....which essentially means they see them as equal...but give the 3 pt. home field advantage to them.

gftChris

@the-gipper said:
I think the Jets have been made a 3 point favorite....which essentially means they see them as equal...but give the 3 pt. home field advantage to them.

Sounds familiar...

All told, this game will be pretty damn close if both teams schemes are around the same level (slight edge us for having an extra year on D), but home advantage might just swing it for the Jets.

Tour2ma

@gftchris said:
All told, this game will be pretty damn close if both teams schemes are around the same level (slight edge us for having an extra year on D), but home advantage might just swing it for the Jets.

@the-gipper said:
But I will let you handle that one then....as the Jets are under a whole new regime....and other than the NY media touting Todd Bowles as the next genius I know nothing about their staff.

And I know little more, but as pointed out salient point would be around a 1st-year, Defensive-minded HC with the team. Jets' Defensive personnel do look reasonably well suited to continue style Bowles employed in SEA, but system is new to them.

Offensively the familiar name of Chan Gailey reappears as OC after two years out of the league. Not a name that is going to strike fear into a an opponent's heart. And again new system was just installed.

STs see Bobby April continuing his tour of the NFL now with his 8th NFL team...

We should have a significant coaching edge.

There are a couple familiar Position Coaches on the Jets staff led by old friend Pepper Johnson in the D-line slot.

The Gipper

@tour2ma said:

And I know little more, but as pointed out salient point would be around a 1st-year, Defensive-minded HC with the team. Jets' Defensive personnel do look reasonably well suited to continue style Bowles employed in SEA, but system is new to them.

I don't think Bowles was in Seattle....that was Quin.....wasnt Bowles in Arizona?

Offensively the familiar name of Chan Gailey reappears as OC after two years out of the league. Not a name that is going to strike fear into a an opponent's heart. And again new system was just installed.

Yea, Chan Gailey...why do some of these guys keep getting jobs?

STs see Bobby April continuing his tour of the NFL now with his 8th NFL team...

Wouldn't that make him Bobby August? (8th month....8th team....gggggguh)

We should have a significant coaching edge.

You convinced me.

There are a couple familiar Position Coaches on the Jets staff led by old friend Pepper Johnson in the D-line slot.

Tour2ma

Yup, brain fart... Dan Quinn to ATL. He wishes he had something approaching the Jets' talent on D.

Overall Bowles may have better D talent than he left in AZ.

Aggie Brown fan

So many "experts" have the Browns being a dumpster fire. I just don't see it. I think they surprise people. One thing is for sure - if I'm right, then the Browns MUST beat teams like the Jets.