Jonathan Paul Manziel
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"Last season when we were leading the division half way through the season one of the things that struck me was we had a decent running game going. In the last part of the season the running game dropped off and so did the wins."
Ben Tate. Or, Alex Mack? I know who my money's on!
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"A totally different style qb comes in like Manziel over McCown" - did you not notice McCown making plenty of scrambles? he was 3-22, IIRC, so it's not like he's not moving around back there.
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McCown is far more mobile than people think, I'm sure that part of why he came in, because he can scramble
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One of the first things that come to mind with Manziel is that he is a scrambling qb. I don't think that can be said for McCown. It is not that McCown cannot scramble but at his age did the Browns bring him in to be a game manager or a scrambling qb?
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@douche-nozzle said:
To give me the same excuses and explain that you NEVER welch on a bet?
Yes of course that is why i responded, TRY PM'ing me , your profile no longer offers the option.
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2ND HALF 9 Completions 18 Attempts 89 Yards 50.0 % 4.94 yards per attempt 1 Interception 2 Fumbles 3 Sacks 41.2 rating
Did not take Jets long to adjust to Johnny.
Jets were #24 in points allowed last year. We got 10.
Zombo
--so there's that
Zombo said:
2ND HALF 9 Completions 18 Attempts 89 Yards 50.0 % 4.94 yards per attempt 1 Interception 2 Fumbles 3 Sacks 41.2 rating
Did not take Jets long to adjust to Johnny.
Jets were #24 in points allowed last year. We got 10.
Zombo
--so there's that
Jets did not have Williams at DT last year. Major difference I think will play out going forward. Guy is an absolute dominant player as our left side found out the hard way. He owned that side of the line.
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Nice find Diehard. I've been saying for some time, never count this kid out. He does not give up as easy as some fans do. He will give everything he's got to turn the team around. If he makes mistakes it will always be on the side of trying to do too much, unlike some who are there just to collect a paycheck. That's why Josh likes him so much. They are peas in a pod.
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Good God on the way to another 72 pager. There is no OL out there that wants their QB to scramble outside their pocket. Don't hold the ball, see your coverage and throw it. Step up in pocket yes. Yes a pocket can breakdown and when JM rolls out of it is when his troubles begin because he is not protected. This is why Josh is your Starter and this is why the starting OL has no patients with JM cause they don't know if he is even still their. See Ya on page 4

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What happened game one was irrelevant Manziel was in by week 7
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If the kid will keep his eyes downfield while scrambling...... Stay in the pocket when he can and not look to scramble every play...... Protect the damn football....... Maybe. Until then......?
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Manziel reminds me of a lot of borderline guys. If he gets into a good rhythm, and doesn't have to do it all himself, he can be effective. Problem is his margin for error is pretty small.
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Good God on the way to another 72 pager. There is no OL out there that wants their QB to scramble outside their pocket. Don't hold the ball, see your coverage and throw it. Step up in pocket yes. Yes a pocket can breakdown and when JM rolls out of it is when his troubles begin because he is not protected. This is why Josh is your Starter and this is why the starting OL has no patients with JM cause they don't know if he is even still their. See Ya on page 4

Good God on the way to another 72 pager. There is no OL out there that wants their QB to scramble outside their pocket. Don't hold the ball, see your coverage and throw it. Step up in pocket yes. Yes a pocket can breakdown and when JM rolls out of it is when his troubles begin because he is not protected. This is why Josh is your Starter and this is why the starting OL has no patients with JM cause they don't know if he is even still their. See Ya on page 4

I'll wait for tour's report on how well the OL held the pocket for him. Impression in the 2nd half was not very often.
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I thought Manziel looked good scrambling against the Jets. He looked quicker than last season and made some good runs and seemed to know when he had made as much yardage as possible before taking a slide. He threw a great td pass and this time around got behind center like he was in control and running the offense. I don't know if he is the answer or not but his effort during the off season showed in his performance. Manziel was running an offense that was struggling to get the running game going and that always makes it an uphill battle for any qb. Manziel was extending plays, making plays with his feet and showed me the potential he has. He needs to keep mistakes down and not turn the ball over but that might only come by getting playing time.
It doesn't matter if it is Manziel or McCown this team has got to get the running game going or it will be a long season. They have the offensive line and good enough running backs to do it.
It doesn't matter if it is Manziel or McCown this team has got to get the running game going or it will be a long season. They have the offensive line and good enough running backs to do it.
Old minds think alike...
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My mama's a man.
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