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like Green Bay was, while Rodgers sat & learned.
Sorry you don't like some opinions.
Excuse me. I don't remember Rogers in bathrooms with rolled up bills nor floating in pool with beers & bitches nor going to rehab. JM lost his own 1st year. Now lets see set and learn. Sorry I like Rogers a lot but your opinion? really.. Get a Update of how far your boy has come 1st.
Excuse me. I don't remember Rogers in bathrooms with rolled up bills nor floating in pool with beers & bitches nor going to rehab. JM lost his own 1st year. Now lets see set and learn. Sorry I like Rogers a lot but your opinion? really.. Get a Update of how far your boy has come 1st.
Here's an update for ya. He's a Brown. That makes him your boy too.
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Update- Mc Cown still projected to start Sunday. If DHBF & Tonya Harding are sited near locker room area. All bets are off
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Excuse me. I don't remember Rogers in bathrooms with rolled up bills nor floating in pool with beers & bitches nor going to rehab. JM lost his own 1st year. Now lets see set and learn. Sorry I like Rogers a lot but your opinion? really.. Get a Update of how far your boy has come 1st.
UPDATE: Manziel beats Titans- 28-14. McCown gets himself KOed on the first drive of the season. Happy now?
Johnny Boy is most definitely not "my boy". Go back pre draft, look at my posts and see how much I wanted Manziel in a Browns uniform. I'll save you the trouble- it was ZERO. For exactly the reasons you mentioned. I still have my doubts JFF can be a decent quarterback in the NFL, AND I still really don't like him all that much. Even should he win 5 Super Bowls- I will never buy a #2 jersey with his name on it. However- I have even more doubts McCown will be able to win a significant number of games with this roster. Time will tell.
Even should he win 5 Super Bowls- I will never buy a #2 jersey with his name on it. However- I have even more doubts McCown will be able to win a significant number of games with this roster. Time will tell.
If #2 wins just one Superbowl, I will buy every variety of #2 jersey - including pink.
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Even should he win 5 Super Bowls- I will never buy a #2 jersey with his name on it. However- I have even more doubts McCown will be able to win a significant number of games with this roster. Time will tell.
If #2 wins just one Superbowl, I will buy every variety of #2 jersey - including pink.
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Even should he win 5 Super Bowls- I will never buy a #2 jersey with his name on it. However- I have even more doubts McCown will be able to win a significant number of games with this roster. Time will tell.
If #2 wins just one Superbowl, I will buy every variety of #2 jersey - including pink.
If #2 wins just one Superbowl, I will buy every variety of #2 jersey - including pink.
Would you wear a pink one if he just gets us to a Superbowl?
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Would you wear a pink one if he just gets us to a Superbowl?
Hell, I'd wear a pink if he wins us a playoff game.
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Excuse me. I don't remember Rogers in bathrooms with rolled up bills nor floating in pool with beers & bitches nor going to rehab. JM lost his own 1st year. Now lets see set and learn. Sorry I like Rogers a lot but your opinion? really.. Get a Update of how far your boy has come 1st.
UPDATE: Manziel beats Titans- 28-14. McCown gets himself KOed on the first drive of the season. Happy now?
Johnny Boy is most definitely not "my boy". Go back pre draft, look at my posts and see how much I wanted Manziel in a Browns uniform. I'll save you the trouble- it was ZERO. For exactly the reasons you mentioned. I still have my doubts JFF can be a decent quarterback in the NFL, AND I still really don't like him all that much. Even should he win 5 Super Bowls- I will never buy a #2 jersey with his name on it. However- I have even more doubts McCown will be able to win a significant number of games with this roster. Time will tell.
UPDATE: Manziel beats Titans- 28-14. McCown gets himself KOed on the first drive of the season. Happy now?
Johnny Boy is most definitely not "my boy". Go back pre draft, look at my posts and see how much I wanted Manziel in a Browns uniform. I'll save you the trouble- it was ZERO. For exactly the reasons you mentioned. I still have my doubts JFF can be a decent quarterback in the NFL, AND I still really don't like him all that much. Even should he win 5 Super Bowls- I will never buy a #2 jersey with his name on it. However- I have even more doubts McCown will be able to win a significant number of games with this roster. Time will tell.
Well, we know McCown will never win a SB. However, someone needs to be here to teach Johnny. But have you ever thought of the following:
1)Perhaps the coaches have already decided we will need a new QB early in the draft, and neither Johnny or Josh will be that guy
2)If Johnny sits and learns from Josh, he will be ready to take the reigns next year while the new QB sits and learns.
3)This will be very important since we haven't had a QB learning on the job in some time
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So, JFF sits and learns this year, so he can take over next year (when McCown is still under contract), while a new first round QB sits and learns...right.
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UPDATE: Manziel beats Titans- 28-14. McCown gets himself KOed on the first drive of the season. Happy now?
Johnny Boy is most definitely not "my boy". Go back pre draft, look at my posts and see how much I wanted Manziel in a Browns uniform. I'll save you the trouble- it was ZERO. For exactly the reasons you mentioned. I still have my doubts JFF can be a decent quarterback in the NFL, AND I still really don't like him all that much. Even should he win 5 Super Bowls- I will never buy a #2 jersey with his name on it. However- I have even more doubts McCown will be able to win a significant number of games with this roster. Time will tell.
He isn't joking. The Manziel hate power rankings looked something like this...
1. Grossi, Jeff Phelps, Pat McManamon
2. Hoorta and Tour
3. Brian Hoyer
4. Alabama fans
He isn't joking. The Manziel hate power rankings looked something like this...
Mikey, you do know that telling a lie often enough does not make it true...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So, JFF sits and learns this year, so he can take over next year (when McCown is still under contract), while a new first round QB sits and learns...right.
So, JFF sits and learns this year, so he can take over next year (when McCown is still under contract), while a new first round QB sits and learns...right.
Lots of learning...
You can go to college for 4 years and study all about learning software. Write small programs, etc.
Once you get a job writing production software - you'll learn more in 3 months on-the-job than 4 years combined studying.
That's how I see it. Throwing a guy in to the wolves will make him learn faster than sitting around studying and watching.
Although coach P thinks McCown gives us the best chance to win, so I think it's OK to roll with that for now. Nobody can accurately say that "The team knows the future QB isn't on the roster." because nobody knows, including some of the staff I'm sure.
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UPDATE: Manziel beats Titans- 28-14. McCown gets himself KOed on the first drive of the season. Happy now?
Johnny Boy is most definitely not "my boy". Go back pre draft, look at my posts and see how much I wanted Manziel in a Browns uniform. I'll save you the trouble- it was ZERO. For exactly the reasons you mentioned. I still have my doubts JFF can be a decent quarterback in the NFL, AND I still really don't like him all that much. Even should he win 5 Super Bowls- I will never buy a #2 jersey with his name on it. However- I have even more doubts McCown will be able to win a significant number of games with this roster. Time will tell.
He isn't joking. The Manziel hate power rankings looked something like this...
1. Grossi, Jeff Phelps, Pat McManamon
2. Hoorta and Tour
3. Brian Hoyer
4. Alabama fans
He isn't joking. The Manziel hate power rankings looked something like this...
1. Grossi, Jeff Phelps, Pat McManamon
2. Hoorta and Tour
3. Brian Hoyer
4. Alabama fans
Did you forget Merrill Hoge?
What might be interesting....if it hasn't been done already......is to see ESPN do a whole segment with Hoge and Skip Bayless.
Hoge the hater vs. Bayless the Johnny knobgobbler.
Who would be the Burr and who would be the Hamilton?
Or, maybe it could end like this other famous duel:
- Thomas Biddle and Spencer Darwin Pettis — August 26, 1831 — One of the most famous duels to occur on Bloody Island, it is often cited as an example of the theory that "all politics is local." Pettis, a staunch Jacksonian Democrat, challenged Biddle, brother of banker Nicholas Biddle, because Biddle had publicly humiliated Pettis. Because the Code Duello stated that the particulars of the duel were to be decided by the "challengee," Biddle, who was nearsighted, chose Bloody Island and a distance of five feet. It is argued[by whom?] that Biddle thought such a close distance would convince Pettis not to go through with the duel, but Pettis was undeterred. They fired at five feet, and both were killed.
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He isn't joking. The Manziel hate power rankings looked something like this...
1. Grossi, Jeff Phelps, Pat McManamon
2. Hoorta and Tour
3. Brian Hoyer
4. Alabama fans
Did you forget Merrill Hoge?
What might be interesting....if it hasn't been done already......is to see ESPN do a whole segment with Hoge and Skip Bayless.
Hoge the hater vs. Bayless the Johnny knobgobbler.
Who would be the Burr and who would be the Hamilton?
Or, maybe it could end like this other famous duel:
- Thomas Biddle and Spencer Darwin Pettis — August 26, 1831 — One of the most famous duels to occur on Bloody Island, it is often cited as an example of the theory that "all politics is local." Pettis, a staunch Jacksonian Democrat, challenged Biddle, brother of banker Nicholas Biddle, because Biddle had publicly humiliated Pettis. Because the Code Duello stated that the particulars of the duel were to be decided by the "challengee," Biddle, who was nearsighted, chose Bloody Island and a distance of five feet. It is argued[by whom?] that Biddle thought such a close distance would convince Pettis not to go through with the duel, but Pettis was undeterred. They fired at five feet, and both were killed.
Did you forget Merrill Hoge?
What might be interesting....if it hasn't been done already......is to see ESPN do a whole segment with Hoge and Skip Bayless.
Hoge the hater vs. Bayless the Johnny knobgobbler.
Who would be the Burr and who would be the Hamilton?
Or, maybe it could end like this other famous duel:
- Thomas Biddle and Spencer Darwin Pettis — August 26, 1831 — One of the most famous duels to occur on Bloody Island, it is often cited as an example of the theory that "all politics is local." Pettis, a staunch Jacksonian Democrat, challenged Biddle, brother of banker Nicholas Biddle, because Biddle had publicly humiliated Pettis. Because the Code Duello stated that the particulars of the duel were to be decided by the "challengee," Biddle, who was nearsighted, chose Bloody Island and a distance of five feet. It is argued[by whom?] that Biddle thought such a close distance would convince Pettis not to go through with the duel, but Pettis was undeterred. They fired at five feet, and both were killed.
More likely this way though:
July 26, 1847: Albert Pike and John Selden Roane; declared a draw, no injuries.
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Would you wear a pink one if he just gets us to a Superbowl?
Hell, I'd wear a pink if he wins us a playoff game.
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So, JFF sits and learns this year, so he can take over next year (when McCown is still under contract), while a new first round QB sits and learns...right.
Lots of learning...
You can go to college for 4 years and study all about learning software. Write small programs, etc.
Once you get a job writing production software - you'll learn more in 3 months on-the-job than 4 years combined studying.
That's how I see it. Throwing a guy in to the wolves will make him learn faster than sitting around studying and watching.
Although coach P thinks McCown gives us the best chance to win, so I think it's OK to roll with that for now. Nobody can accurately say that "The team knows the future QB isn't on the roster." because nobody knows, including some of the staff I'm sure.
One of many classic screen moments in Cool Hand...
"What we have here... is a failure... to communicate."
Throwing a guy in to the wolves will make him learn faster than sitting around studying and watching.
For many or most, sure, but not everyone in every situation. And then add that as the past two weeks have shown, it's not a binary situation.
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Did you forget Merrill Hoge?
What might be interesting....if it hasn't been done already......is to see ESPN do a whole segment with Hoge and Skip Bayless.
Hoge the hater vs. Bayless the Johnny knobgobbler.
Who would be the Burr and who would be the Hamilton?
Or, maybe it could end like this other famous duel:
- Thomas Biddle and Spencer Darwin Pettis — August 26, 1831 — One of the most famous duels to occur on Bloody Island, it is often cited as an example of the theory that "all politics is local." Pettis, a staunch Jacksonian Democrat, challenged Biddle, brother of banker Nicholas Biddle, because Biddle had publicly humiliated Pettis. Because the Code Duello stated that the particulars of the duel were to be decided by the "challengee," Biddle, who was nearsighted, chose Bloody Island and a distance of five feet. It is argued[by whom?] that Biddle thought such a close distance would convince Pettis not to go through with the duel, but Pettis was undeterred. They fired at five feet, and both were killed.
More likely this way though:
July 26, 1847: Albert Pike and John Selden Roane; declared a draw, no injuries.
More likely this way though:
July 26, 1847: Albert Pike and John Selden Roane; declared a draw, no injuries.
Yea, more likely. A duel between pantywaists.
Would be nothing like this duel:
I understand that Steve Vai played both parts.
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Really, Hoge and Bayless are more like this.......but I am just figuring which is which.
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here's a great analogy (i think?)
you buy a nice looking car from a dealership and salesman (coach pettine) you take it for a test spin, you love it. your wife loves it. everyone in the neighborhood is giving you thumbs up.
next week you run over a nail on the highway and get a flat. put the spare on and rode it for 50 miles and got a bag of chips. take the car back to the dealership (pettine) and ask them to pay for the tire. they do cuz they like you as a customer. you get in the car now and you hate it. for what reason nobody knows except for the bag of chips. still getting the thumbs up. still riding like a brand new car BUT since you know it had a flat and you liked that bag of chips you hate it now, and the dealer.
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So, JFF sits and learns this year, so he can take over next year (when McCown is still under contract), while a new first round QB sits and learns...right.
So, JFF sits and learns this year, so he can take over next year (when McCown is still under contract), while a new first round QB sits and learns...right.
Well, you might as well know for certain if Johnny will be the guy or not. Even if Josh is still under contract. The most important thing is, when we draft another QB, he sits and learns the system. Frankly, I don't believe that Johnny or Josh is the QB we are looking for.
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