On to Oakland...
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Not as bad as the all brown worn in previous years. The stripe on the pants makes it better.......but I still don't think we need the name of the team on there.....just continue the stripe. (do they think people will not know who is playing?)
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Good question. While maybe he didn't fill the stat sheet, I know people were raving about his performance. So maybe stats don't tell the whole story.
Sacks were what was missing. In terms of hits and hurries he was off the chart. When your secondary can't cover receivers for more than two seconds, you're going to struggle to get sacks.
Oh, and, his edge setting was top notch.
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Browns cornerback K'Waun Williams out with concussion
BEREA, Ohio (AP) — Browns starting nickel back K'Waun Williams sustained his third concussion in less than a year and will sit out Sunday against Oakland, forcing changes to Cleveland's secondary.
Coach Mike Pettine said following practice Friday that Williams, who signed with the Browns as an undrafted free agent last year, complained of headaches Thursday and the team placed him in the NFL's concussion protocol. The Browns don't know when Williams suffered his head injury. He practiced the past two days and was not listed on the injury report earlier this week.Williams also suffered a concussion on Oct. 12 last season against Pittsburgh and in the Dec. 28 finale at Baltimore.With Williams out, right cornerback Tramon Williams will likely move into the slot when the Raiders line up three wide receivers and Pierre Desir will play outside. Backup free safety Jordan Poyer has also spent some time in the nickel position.The loss of Williams could be costly for the Browns, who will have to handle Oakland receivers Michael Crabtree and Amari Cooper, both of whom had more than 100 yards receiving last week in a win over Baltimore. Raiders quarterback Derek Carr passed for a career-high 351 yards in the win.Pro Bowl cornerback Joe Haden said Williams will be tough to replace."He means a lot to the secondary," Haden said. "K'Waun's a guy that was undrafted, so he works super-hard. He goes out there, goes hard, knows his assignment, alignment, and he locks up the slot guys. That's his thing."Haden is also concerned about Williams' long-term health."Definitely, man, because that's your head," Haden said. "And K'Waun, he's a young dude. He hasn't been in the league that long, so if he's messed up like that, he felt like he needed to go get himself checked out and make sure everything's OK."Cornerback Justin Gilbert (hamstring) and defensive end Desmond Bryant (shoulder) are questionable for the game Sunday.Gilbert missed Cleveland's first two games with a hip flexor and the former first-round pick, a major disappointment so far, hurt his hamstring in Thursday's practice.Bryant didn't practice at all, and if he can't go, rookie Xavier Cooper will be active for the first time -
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Hope your kidding. Don't even know why we have this dude.
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Well hell. We could use Gilbert.
Actually....more like it is time to see if Desir can step it up.
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Browns cornerback K'Waun Williams out with concussion
BEREA, Ohio (AP) — Browns starting nickel back K'Waun Williams sustained his third concussion in less than a year and will sit out Sunday against Oakland, forcing changes to Cleveland's secondary.
Coach Mike Pettine said following practice Friday that Williams, who signed with the Browns as an undrafted free agent last year, complained of headaches Thursday and the team placed him in the NFL's concussion protocol. The Browns don't know when Williams suffered his head injury. He practiced the past two days and was not listed on the injury report earlier this week.Williams also suffered a concussion on Oct. 12 last season against Pittsburgh and in the Dec. 28 finale at Baltimore.With Williams out, right cornerback Tramon Williams will likely move into the slot when the Raiders line up three wide receivers and Pierre Desir will play outside. Backup free safety Jordan Poyer has also spent some time in the nickel position.The loss of Williams could be costly for the Browns, who will have to handle Oakland receivers Michael Crabtree and Amari Cooper, both of whom had more than 100 yards receiving last week in a win over Baltimore. Raiders quarterback Derek Carr passed for a career-high 351 yards in the win.Pro Bowl cornerback Joe Haden said Williams will be tough to replace."He means a lot to the secondary," Haden said. "K'Waun's a guy that was undrafted, so he works super-hard. He goes out there, goes hard, knows his assignment, alignment, and he locks up the slot guys. That's his thing."Haden is also concerned about Williams' long-term health."Definitely, man, because that's your head," Haden said. "And K'Waun, he's a young dude. He hasn't been in the league that long, so if he's messed up like that, he felt like he needed to go get himself checked out and make sure everything's OK."Cornerback Justin Gilbert (hamstring) and defensive end Desmond Bryant (shoulder) are questionable for the game Sunday.Gilbert missed Cleveland's first two games with a hip flexor and the former first-round pick, a major disappointment so far, hurt his hamstring in Thursday's practice.Bryant didn't practice at all, and if he can't go, rookie Xavier Cooper will be active for the first timeBrowns cornerback K'Waun Williams out with concussion
That news just sucks on so many different levels...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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mack contributing to the raiders stellar record since being drafted. watkins lighting it up in buffalo. bridgewater candidate for the diddly squat award.
anyone else that walter wanted that we passed on that i can say 'oh well'?
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Haden should be fine.....yeah he had a rough game against the Jets, but he certainly didnt forget how to cover all of a sudden....
Usually, its those tall-long receivers where he does well(think AJGreen).....and its the short fast guys who make him struggle(think Antonio Brown)....Id expect him to handle Cooper just fine and maybe even provide a lil schooling to the rookie.....
Haden should be fine.....yeah he had a rough game against the Jets, but he certainly didnt forget how to cover all of a sudden....
Usually, its those tall-long receivers where he does well(think AJGreen).....and its the short fast guys who make him struggle(think Antonio Brown)....Id expect him to handle Cooper just fine and maybe even provide a lil schooling to the rookie.....
Good points about Haden Mud! I think Dalton helps Haden way more than he helps AJ Green in that matchup. I've seen too may examples why to question them at this point.
Unfortunately, a couple matchups have reminded me that a size advantage on the perimeter can even make an elite corner like Joe vulnerable or at least in need of some help. In saying such a thing, I will provide examples. Last year, when we played New Orleans - Sean Payton made an brilliant adjustment that lined Jimmy Graham out wide isolated on the unfair size advantage he had over Haden. It wasn't that he thought Haden sucked as much as he knew he could exploit an unfair size advantage with his accurate QB. The Jets had a similar type of matchup even though it wasn't Drew Brees (it was just a QB clearly better than Andy Dalton). Interestingly enough, when NY threw to Marshall on the other side of formation - our Safety (Gipson) helped out in coverage and intercepted the pass.
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I think Desir will do just fine.....
Though, Id expect him to p/u #2 and play outside, while Williams moves inside for the nickle.....
I think Desir will do just fine.....
Though, Id expect him to p/u #2 and play outside, while Williams moves inside for the nickle.....
Seems to be the consensus move, Mud, but against a team with a big fall off in production after their top 2, I'm not sure that's the best use of Williams.
Kind of the lesser of 2 evils....Williams is probably the better choice at both positions...ha!..... though Id say he has a much larger edge in the slot....while Desir offers a long body to pick up the taller receivers Holmes & Roberts, which is where he excels....
Good points about Haden Mud! I think Dalton helps Haden way more than he helps AJ Green in that matchup.
Ha!....Dalton is my favorite Bengals QB.....everrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!....
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