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  • As I said in another discussion here on the Board, we need to put our efforts heavily on the free agency.

    Getting experience good players, that's what we need to do.

    Taking players in the draft has been hurting us for 15 years. We can't choose the right players and if we do we cannot develop them.

  • As I said in another discussion here on the Board, we need to put our efforts heavily on the free agency.

    Getting experience good players, that's what we need to do.

    Taking players in the draft has been hurting us for 15 years. We can't choose the right players and if we do we cannot develop them.

    @the-italian-dawgpound said:

    As I said in another discussion here on the Board, we need to put our efforts heavily on the free agency.

    Getting experience good players, that's what we need to do.

    Taking players in the draft has been hurting us for 15 years. We can't choose the right players and if we do we cannot develop them.

    I would agree if there wasn't a salary cap. If you were a free agent the only reason to choose Cleveland is because they are overpaying just look at Kruger, Dansby, Whitner and Bowe.

  • As I said in another discussion here on the Board, we need to put our efforts heavily on the free agency.

    Getting experience good players, that's what we need to do.

    Taking players in the draft has been hurting us for 15 years. We can't choose the right players and if we do we cannot develop them.

    @the-italian-dawgpound said:

    As I said in another discussion here on the Board, we need to put our efforts heavily on the free agency.

    Getting experience good players, that's what we need to do.

    Taking players in the draft has been hurting us for 15 years. We can't choose the right players and if we do we cannot develop them.

    Free agency, something we haven't made a splash in.... Ever. When free agency comes up we will say, "we're building this team through the draft" (which means, we blow all 10 picks on guys who are over rated and will be out of the league in 3-4 years).for some reason, regardless of the regime, we avoid free agency. I think it's so we won't embarrass ourselves.

  • @the-italian-dawgpound said:

    As I said in another discussion here on the Board, we need to put our efforts heavily on the free agency.

    Getting experience good players, that's what we need to do.

    Taking players in the draft has been hurting us for 15 years. We can't choose the right players and if we do we cannot develop them.

    I would agree if there wasn't a salary cap. If you were a free agent the only reason to choose Cleveland is because they are overpaying just look at Kruger, Dansby, Whitner and Bowe.

    @baconhound said:

    I would agree if there wasn't a salary cap. If you were a free agent the only reason to choose Cleveland is because they are overpaying just look at Kruger, Dansby, Whitner and Bowe.

    Earlier analysts were saying Drew Bree's contract will have to be renegotiated or Bree's will need to be cut or traded. I say if it's the latter, go after him and let him mold JM. Same build, same skill set. But we won't do it, even if the opportunity were to be gift wrapped. Hell I might look to see what feasibility there is in getting Bree's now.

  • @baconhound said:

    I would agree if there wasn't a salary cap. If you were a free agent the only reason to choose Cleveland is because they are overpaying just look at Kruger, Dansby, Whitner and Bowe.

    Earlier analysts were saying Drew Bree's contract will have to be renegotiated or Bree's will need to be cut or traded. I say if it's the latter, go after him and let him mold JM. Same build, same skill set. But we won't do it, even if the opportunity were to be gift wrapped. Hell I might look to see what feasibility there is in getting Bree's now.

    @brownskidd said:

    Earlier analysts were saying Drew Bree's contract will have to be renegotiated or Bree's will need to be cut or traded. I say if it's the latter, go after him and let him mold JM. Same build, same skill set. But we won't do it, even if the opportunity were to be gift wrapped. Hell I might look to see what feasibility there is in getting Bree's now.

    Drew Brees is a true pocket passer, very different than Manziel, and again would cost a pretty penny to lose

  • uhhh the Raiders have more talent. Clear as day. Only so much a coach can do.

  • Defense is terrible because we don't have talented enough linebackers to run it . . . That and Pettine seems too timid to put pressure on the QB at key times of the game, and especially right before halftime lol. We supposedly have a top tier secondary, but he seems to have little to zero faith in them.

    I'm still annoyed that we had all that talent on the d-line but instead of running a defense that would take advantage of that depth we let a lot of guys go and run a scheme that you need good linebackers to run . . . Which we don't have of course.

  • @brownskidd said:

    Earlier analysts were saying Drew Bree's contract will have to be renegotiated or Bree's will need to be cut or traded. I say if it's the latter, go after him and let him mold JM. Same build, same skill set. But we won't do it, even if the opportunity were to be gift wrapped. Hell I might look to see what feasibility there is in getting Bree's now.

    Drew Brees is a true pocket passer, very different than Manziel, and again would cost a pretty penny to lose

    @baconhound said:

    Drew Brees is a true pocket passer, very different than Manziel, and again would cost a pretty penny to lose

    Might be worth the investment. But we have to get our OL blocking. Don't matter who you have back there when the OL plays like like shit.

  • Well, this is the easiest way to round up all the pussies.

  • Well, this is the easiest way to round up all the pussies.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Well, this is the easiest way to round up all the pussies.

    That's right me tough, me Jaguar fan.

  • W Why

    Defense is terrible because we don't have talented enough linebackers to run it . . . That and Pettine seems too timid to put pressure on the QB at key times of the game, and especially right before halftime lol. We supposedly have a top tier secondary, but he seems to have little to zero faith in them.

    I'm still annoyed that we had all that talent on the d-line but instead of running a defense that would take advantage of that depth we let a lot of guys go and run a scheme that you need good linebackers to run . . . Which we don't have of course.

    @why said:

    Defense is terrible because we don't have talented enough linebackers to run it . . . That and Pettine seems too timid to put pressure on the QB at key times of the game, and especially right before halftime lol. We supposedly have a top tier secondary, but he seems to have little to zero faith in them.

    I'm still annoyed that we had all that talent on the d-line but instead of running a defense that would take advantage of that depth we let a lot of guys go and run a scheme that you need good linebackers to run . . . Which we don't have of course.

    I somewhat disagree. I feel that Pettine overestimates our secondary by playing man coverage all the time. Our linebackers don't get enough pressure on the QB which forces our secondary to be perfect or give up a big play..

  • @why said:

    Defense is terrible because we don't have talented enough linebackers to run it . . . That and Pettine seems too timid to put pressure on the QB at key times of the game, and especially right before halftime lol. We supposedly have a top tier secondary, but he seems to have little to zero faith in them.

    I'm still annoyed that we had all that talent on the d-line but instead of running a defense that would take advantage of that depth we let a lot of guys go and run a scheme that you need good linebackers to run . . . Which we don't have of course.

    I somewhat disagree. I feel that Pettine overestimates our secondary by playing man coverage all the time. Our linebackers don't get enough pressure on the QB which forces our secondary to be perfect or give up a big play..

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    I somewhat disagree. I feel that Pettine overestimates our secondary by playing man coverage all the time. Our linebackers don't get enough pressure on the QB which forces our secondary to be perfect or give up a big play..

    Our LBer's have been one dimensional for years. Kahlil Mack would've been a nice addition.

  • You guys know the only reason pettine has a job with the Browns is/was because was Haslem was DETERMINED NOT to fire/hire another coach. It's a decision on part of the owner to have consistency at the manager position for sake of consistency.

    It's a BS premise.

  • @why said:

    Defense is terrible because we don't have talented enough linebackers to run it . . . That and Pettine seems too timid to put pressure on the QB at key times of the game, and especially right before halftime lol. We supposedly have a top tier secondary, but he seems to have little to zero faith in them.

    I'm still annoyed that we had all that talent on the d-line but instead of running a defense that would take advantage of that depth we let a lot of guys go and run a scheme that you need good linebackers to run . . . Which we don't have of course.

    I somewhat disagree. I feel that Pettine overestimates our secondary by playing man coverage all the time. Our linebackers don't get enough pressure on the QB which forces our secondary to be perfect or give up a big play..

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    I somewhat disagree. I feel that Pettine overestimates our secondary by playing man coverage all the time. Our linebackers don't get enough pressure on the QB which forces our secondary to be perfect or give up a big play..

    I see your point . . . Still feel Pettine goes soft at key points in the game. At least we both agree that our linebackers are sub-par for this system they're trying to run.

  • Well, this is the easiest way to round up all the pussies.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Well, this is the easiest way to round up all the pussies.

    correct- round up the Browns that don't play like a Brown and ship them to the CFL. I'm bringing in the Montreal Alouettes to play the Chargers next week.

  • So glad that stubborn asshole Pettine put Johnny back on the bench so we could watch this abortion by grandpa McCown. Fucking moron will be out of a job next year.

    Defense my fucking cunt. What a passive agressive pussy

    @walterwhite said:

    So glad that stubborn asshole Pettine put Johnny back on the bench so we could watch this abortion by grandpa McCown. Fucking moron will be out of a job next year.

    Defense my fucking cunt. What a passive agressive pussy

    How articulate obviously you are a public speaker. I mean come on I can drop an F bomb with the best of them but who really says "defense my f'ing c*nt"??
  • For better or worse we're stuck with Pettine for years. Firing him even next year retains are status as one of the league's biggest joke stations that no reputable coach would come to. It would take Cowher years to turn this franchise around, know why I'm sure of that? Cause the moment he got here Cowher would likely cut 90% of this roster and start the fuck over. This teams talent level is a joke and frankly I'm blaming the FO more than the coaching staff. Anyone catch who #52 was that was shitting all over our O line, stopping the run and pass rushing like the D-O-double G? Some 2nd year hooha out of Buffalo named Khalil Mack. What a loser. Why would you want a player like that on your team I don't understand. Talent is so overrated. Talented players just bring your whole organization down.

  • W Why

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    I somewhat disagree. I feel that Pettine overestimates our secondary by playing man coverage all the time. Our linebackers don't get enough pressure on the QB which forces our secondary to be perfect or give up a big play..

    I see your point . . . Still feel Pettine goes soft at key points in the game. At least we both agree that our linebackers are sub-par for this system they're trying to run.

    @why said:

    I see your point . . . Still feel Pettine goes soft at key points in the game. At least we both agree that our linebackers are sub-par for this system they're trying to run.

    Our LB'ers are just garbage. Can we all finally just agree on that? They don't stick their heads in there and tackle...they grope at the thigh pads in hopes of slowing the ball carrier down enough for someone else to drop the wood. I'm tired of this shit. These guys are junk. Dansby and Kirksey can get cut for all I care at this point. Mingo too. Robertson was the only guy who's shown half a heart on our LB'ing corp and he's hurt now. It's just a joke. I knew they didn't pass the eye test last year, i fucking knew it. Too many people here were like no dude you're crazy our LB'ers are awesome you should see their PFF's!!!

  • @why said:

    I see your point . . . Still feel Pettine goes soft at key points in the game. At least we both agree that our linebackers are sub-par for this system they're trying to run.

    Our LB'ers are just garbage. Can we all finally just agree on that? They don't stick their heads in there and tackle...they grope at the thigh pads in hopes of slowing the ball carrier down enough for someone else to drop the wood. I'm tired of this shit. These guys are junk. Dansby and Kirksey can get cut for all I care at this point. Mingo too. Robertson was the only guy who's shown half a heart on our LB'ing corp and he's hurt now. It's just a joke. I knew they didn't pass the eye test last year, i fucking knew it. Too many people here were like no dude you're crazy our LB'ers are awesome you should see their PFF's!!!

    @clevfan4life said:

    Our LB'ers are just garbage. Can we all finally just agree on that? They don't stick their heads in there and tackle...they grope at the thigh pads in hopes of slowing the ball carrier down enough for someone else to drop the wood. I'm tired of this shit. These guys are junk. Dansby and Kirksey can get cut for all I care at this point. Mingo too. Robertson was the only guy who's shown half a heart on our LB'ing corp and he's hurt now. It's just a joke. I knew they didn't pass the eye test last year, i fucking knew it. Too many people here were like no dude you're crazy our LB'ers are awesome you should see their PFF's!!!

    from what I can see they just go for the opposing players' dicks on every play. We need men not faggots out there on the field.

  • @why said:

    I see your point . . . Still feel Pettine goes soft at key points in the game. At least we both agree that our linebackers are sub-par for this system they're trying to run.

    Our LB'ers are just garbage. Can we all finally just agree on that? They don't stick their heads in there and tackle...they grope at the thigh pads in hopes of slowing the ball carrier down enough for someone else to drop the wood. I'm tired of this shit. These guys are junk. Dansby and Kirksey can get cut for all I care at this point. Mingo too. Robertson was the only guy who's shown half a heart on our LB'ing corp and he's hurt now. It's just a joke. I knew they didn't pass the eye test last year, i fucking knew it. Too many people here were like no dude you're crazy our LB'ers are awesome you should see their PFF's!!!

    @clevfan4life said:

    Our LB'ers are just garbage. Can we all finally just agree on that? They don't stick their heads in there and tackle...they grope at the thigh pads in hopes of slowing the ball carrier down enough for someone else to drop the wood. I'm tired of this shit. These guys are junk. Dansby and Kirksey can get cut for all I care at this point. Mingo too. Robertson was the only guy who's shown half a heart on our LB'ing corp and he's hurt now. It's just a joke. I knew they didn't pass the eye test last year, i fucking knew it. Too many people here were like no dude you're crazy our LB'ers are awesome you should see their PFF's!!!

    I doubt Jimmah is very happy about the big stinking turd the Browns laid on the hometown crowd today. From the demeanor of Pet's post game presser- he knows it too. Three down, 13 to go.

    I truly have to wonder how long Haslam will put up with yet more "build for the future" games.