Oh Boy Here We Go
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To celebrate Farmers return after Chargers game I would play Austin Davis Whhheeee!! Have a clearer mind after watching the Oakland game at a marina called the Crappy Patty in VB. Davis had a great game in SD with Rams not long ago. Put the whole mess on the table for Farmers return and say later sub GM.
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Glad somebody else brought it up, but I'll say it again; the best QB on roster isn't Johnny nor McCown.
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Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
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Honestly, Johnny needs to sit until mid season this year. Then throw him into the deep end, then he will lose for the rest of the year and probably next season too, then he might be ready. AND they might be able to draft him some weapons.
Problem is, the average Browns fan will give him 3 games, then call for someone else. And want the Coach fired. AND they will draft another QB instead of a WR or TE. Rinse, Wash, Repeat.
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Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
McCown's a nice guy and a good veteran presence to have. He'll never be good enough to be an above average starting QB in the NFL.
It's not like we traded for or signed a quality veteran who has had success in the NFL. He did OK in Chicago with one of the best receiving corps in the NFL and solid run game.
Hoyer was an unknown - which is why I think people were more patient with him (not to mention he won us some games).
Besides, we're not going to lose games because of our quarterback anyway. Nobody will be looking at Manziel's mistakes because they'll be looking at the 15 YDs rushing and 500 YDs our defense gives up.
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Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year ??..... or will you throw him under the bus from day one?
Oh, some will give him a chance....but I guarantee(100%) he'll still be under the bus....and dragged around.....if he doesnt play well and win....
Thats how it goes here....no exceptions....and, Im certain, especially with Mr. Polarocity......
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Glad somebody else brought it up, but I'll say it again; the best QB on roster isn't Johnny nor McCown.
Glad somebody else brought it up, but I'll say it again; the best QB on roster isn't Johnny nor McCown.
At this point, Austin Davis very well could be the best QB on the roster.
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Honestly, Johnny needs to sit until mid season this year. Then throw him into the deep end, then he will lose for the rest of the year and probably next season too, then he might be ready. AND they might be able to draft him some weapons.
Problem is, the average Browns fan will give him 3 games, then call for someone else. And want the Coach fired. AND they will draft another QB instead of a WR or TE. Rinse, Wash, Repeat.
Problem is, the average Browns fan will give him 3 games, then call for someone else. And want the Coach fired. AND they will draft another QB instead of a WR or TE. Rinse, Wash, Repeat.
Right their is the mouthful I have been waiting for all week^^ (rinse) The Defense first half took the fans right out of the game than (wash) moved on to Josh threw out the game. Than what's left? (repeat) All the coaches of course. (fans like none other) Yes sir's.
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At this point, Austin Davis very well could be the best QB on the roster.
Turpin will be our best RB on the roster and would love to see a few touches this week. his vision don't miss holes if his ankle gets him threw it.
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If true, the players should shut up because the rest of them suck no matter who the QB is.
Except Benjamin, who may have a reasonable claim to say he's better when Manziel plays
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Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
Just fucking win the football game like he won the last one.
Z
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53 different personalities in 1 locker room........ Yea, someone feels like this and expressed himself, and to think otherwise is naive. Not saying it's right or wrong, but getting 3 people to agree on something is hard, much less 53.
53 different personalities in 1 locker room........ Yea, someone feels like this and expressed himself, and to think otherwise is naive. Not saying it's right or wrong, but getting 3 people to agree on something is hard, much less 53.
Cut that down to 3 od 11. Remember the article says 3 starting O players, not 53 Browns.
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Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
Just fucking win the football game like he won the last one.
Z
Zombo said:
Just fucking win the football game like he won the last one.
Z
Read: no.
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Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
Just fucking win the football game like he won the last one.
Z
Zombo said:
Just fucking win the football game like he won the last one.
Z
Won't happen if the OL is a protective non-factor and the running game is zilch. But Cleveland is still Cleveland where the scapegoat will always be the QB and it only takes a few games. Not patience enough here to allow a QB to develop into a bona-fide NFL player. Just look at what is happening to Josh right now. His OL played like shit that first half and the playcalling was predictable. What will change for Johnny? The only reason we won is that he became unpredictable. Predictable coaching is highly underrated. LOL!
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This one from Tom Reed:
BEREA, Ohio – The Browns were blindsided by a TMZ report Tuesday anonymously quoting three offensive starters saying they would prefer Johnny Manziel as their quarterback over Josh McCown.
The club has issued no formal statement although receiver Andrew Hawkins took to Twitter calling the report, "%1000 made up."
Here's how bad things are for the Browns, who own a 1-2 record and begin a brutal stretch of their schedule Sunday in San Diego:
The report might act as a blessing because it shifts focus away from other problems ailing the club. Would Manziel's presence Sunday have limited the defense's 14 missed tackles or helped the offensive line block better on a first-and-goal from the 1 against the Raiders?
Many of the Browns' best players and units are underachieving. Some of the schemes coaches are putting them in deserve questioning. The next two days in Berea, however, will be dominated by the TMZ story in part because the Browns are idle on Tuesdays.
Coach Mike Pettine will be grilled on the topic. So will players. McCown or Manziel? Is there dissent inside the locker room? Is McCown impacted by teammates allegedly "furious" over Pettine's decision to return him to the lineup after Manziel helped the Browns beat the Titans, 28-14 with a pair of long touchdown passes to Travis Benjamin?
Let's put aside questions over the validity of the quotes for a second and put on our common-sense hats.
Wouldn't it be human nature for some teammates to think Manziel is the better option, especially with the improvement he's making? In announcing his decision to start McCown last week Pettine acknowledged there "might be some difference of opinions" in a locker room where you're never getting players "100 percent on board" with big choices.
If Manziel's most vocal critic, Merril Hoge, said the Browns should stick with No. 2 you know there are teammates who feel the same way. Pettine isn't paid to make popular decisions, but NEOMG's Mary Kay Cabot reported Tuesday the locker room generally remains behind McCown, citing his experience and veteran leadership.
My take: Manziel becomes the starter within a few weeks assuming the losses continue. The organization will have ample time to evaluate whether he's the Browns' quarterback of the future.
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We're back to quoting media ramblings as FACT? AAAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I call bullshit & I've been pretty accurate about media inaccuracies, gossip, & speculation thus far.
Mike
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