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Carson and Trump, Rising and Falling, 20% and 21%

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  • C calfoxwc

    (carbon dating is wrong, fabricated evidence, etc.). ward

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    Dang, good job, you preempted my usual knee jerk comeback on that one. 🙂

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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    (carbon dating is wrong, fabricated evidence, etc.). ward

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    Dang, good job, you preempted my usual knee jerk comeback on that one. 🙂

    Like us to a yahoo answers page as your source, that will really show us...

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      I understand. But emotionally, there's a mountain of evidence to me,

      that it is impossible for me to have lived to see the sixth grade,

      without the grace of God. Certainly, in the great universal scheme of things,

      it makes no sense to someone else, because they didn't experience

      what I experienced.

      would it be preferable, if Dr. Carson was an atheist, and explained his brilliant successes

      and everything he experienced, on simple science and his "godlike" abilities in being a world-renowned

      great surgeon?

      The Bible is an incredibly brilliant and complex work... and was not written in English, ya know.

      And the divinely inspired writers wrote in the original books in Hebrew and Greek.

      And, personally, I allow for them to have had limited scientific understanding in explaining

      what they were trying to explain in said languages.

      Just a reasonable article on the subject:

      http://stevenmcollins.com/html/earth.html

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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      @calfoxwc said:

      I understand. But emotionally, there's a mountain of evidence to me,

      that it is impossible for me to have lived to see the sixth grade,

      without the grace of God. Certainly, in the great universal scheme of things,

      it makes no sense to someone else, because they didn't experience

      what I experienced.

      would it be preferable, if Dr. Carson was an atheist, and explained his brilliant successes

      and everything he experienced, on simple science and his "godlike" abilities in being a world-renowned

      great surgeon?

      The Bible is an incredibly brilliant and complex work... and was not written in English, ya know.

      And the divinely inspired writers wrote in the original books in Hebrew and Greek.

      And, personally, I allow for them to have had limited scientific understanding in explaining

      what they were trying to explain in said languages.

      Just a reasonable article on the subject:

      http://stevenmcollins.com/html/earth.html

      So you're using "emotional evidence" while you rail against any viewpoint you disagree with as being an "emotional knee jerk"...

      Believe what you want, as long as it doesn't affect me. If we had a president that ignores mountains of scientific evidence to support his religious believes, then it us very easy to see how that could affect me. "The bible says the end times are coming, so I'll go to war." "Science is wrong about the age of the earth, si it must be about climate change too." Etc.

      I don't want any part if that as president.

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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        Again - everybody has emotions. But liberals look at issues

        TOTALLY based on emotion. That's how they elected the most corrupt,

        unConstitutional, lying somebeech racist asswipe president in our country's history.

        And my experiences are FACT. My emotional responses to them are just mine.

        Were it not true, they would have, in the least, voted against Obamao the second time,

        based on his performance and lies and scandals the first four years.

        And making up statements that a Christian pres has never made is another example.

        And that is fear-mongering - a label you libs slap on anybody who is concerned about

        even very legitimate situations with this current corrupt buttock and moochelle Obamao regime.

        And, why should I let an atheist affect me with THEIR decisions? Fearmonger that.

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          It depends on how the atheist is making those decisions.

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            ah, so it's okay for the rest of us to suffer unGodly decisions,

            as long as you don't have to suffer Godly decisions.

            that's the democratic caesar's pecker way of doing things...

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              No, you aren't following along.

              I don't care whether the person making the decisions is Christian, Muslim, Atheist, etc. What is important is HOW they make their decision. I want a leader that gathers evidence and sources, looks through relevant data on the subject, and then takes a problem solving approach, with all of the facts considered, to make a decision. What I don't want is a leader actively ignoring sources of information that conflict with his personal beliefs. A leader that chooses to be ignorant to seem right.

              The most prevalent example of that recently has been Carson and his creationist views. That is not the only situation where this concern is appropriate though. Get it?

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                What difference does it make if he's a creationist? Did this become a political issue I'm not aware of? Who gives a fuck how of why the world exists? It has nothing to do with the day to day of politics

                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  I've already explained. It us the willful ignorance. He's purposely ignoring facts he disagrees with to prop up his personal beliefs. I wouldn't want that in a president.

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    I've decided. 1000 percent voting for Carson if he is the nominee. God bless.

                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      woody has that affect on people.

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        I will probably stay home this election. Once again, I am presented with a bunch of shitty options that I want no part of. I am a fiscally conservative, socially liberal atheist so I have no one to vote for.

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                          I've already explained. It us the willful ignorance. He's purposely ignoring facts he disagrees with to prop up his personal beliefs. I wouldn't want that in a president.

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          I've already explained. It us the willful ignorance. He's purposely ignoring facts he disagrees with to prop up his personal beliefs. I wouldn't want that in a president.

                          Its a completely irrelevant matter. Not once in 250 years has the president been called on to explain why the world exists or how. The guy is a fucking neurosurgeon. I'm sure he understands science whether or not he believes in god or how the earth came to be. God is as good an explanation as the big bang which has plenty of holes on its own.

                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                            @mld-woody said:

                            I've already explained. It us the willful ignorance. He's purposely ignoring facts he disagrees with to prop up his personal beliefs. I wouldn't want that in a president.

                            Its a completely irrelevant matter. Not once in 250 years has the president been called on to explain why the world exists or how. The guy is a fucking neurosurgeon. I'm sure he understands science whether or not he believes in god or how the earth came to be. God is as good an explanation as the big bang which has plenty of holes on its own.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @the-cysko-kid said:

                            Its a completely irrelevant matter. Not once in 250 years has the president been called on to explain why the world exists or how. The guy is a fucking neurosurgeon. I'm sure he understands science whether or not he believes in god or how the earth came to be. God is as good an explanation as the big bang which has plenty of holes on its own.

                            You're getting too caught up on his beliefs. I'm concerned with how he got to his beliefs.

                            He doesn't just believe in divine intervention instead of the big bang or whatever. He beliefs in a 6,000 year old earth poofed into existence as we know it today.

                            To hold a belief like that, and to continue to stand by it, you have to be either ignorant or willfully ignorant. If he was just ignorant it may be a lack of education, which isn't his fault. But that's not the case, he's very educated. He just chooses to through that away to protect his personal beliefs.

                            Why would I want a president that ignores facts and evidence if those things happen to disagree with him? This doesn't even have to be religious. Just the willful ignorance in general.

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              I will probably stay home this election. Once again, I am presented with a bunch of shitty options that I want no part of. I am a fiscally conservative, socially liberal atheist so I have no one to vote for.

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @logicisforsquares said:

                              I will probably stay home this election. Once again, I am presented with a bunch of shitty options that I want no part of. I am a fiscally conservative, socially liberal atheist so I have no one to vote for.

                              Vote Or Die

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                After Dr. Carson reviewed in detail the evidence for design in nature, he concluded, I just dont have enough faith to believe that the living world happened by evolutionary processes. He added that 150 years after Darwin, there is still no evidence for evolution:

                                Its just not there. But when you bring that up to the proponents of Darwinism, the best explanation they can come up with is Welluhits lost!I find it requires too much faith for me to believe that explanation given all the fossils we have found without any fossilized evidence of the direct, step-by-step evolutionary progression from simple to complex organisms or from one species to another species. Shrugging and saying, Well, it was mysteriously lost, and well probably never find it, doesnt seem like a particularly satisfying, objective, or scientific response.

                                Carson concluded that the plausibility of evolution is further strained by Darwins assertion that within fifty to one hundred years of his time, scientists would become geologically sophisticated enough to find the fossil remains of the entire evolutionary tree in an unequivocal step-by-step progression of life from amoeba to man.

                                As a neurosurgeon, he stresses the factors that contribute to the failure to utilize fully the most amazing God-given resource, our brain, such as peer pressure and political correctness, which often limits our willingness, even as objective scientists, to have thoughtful, rational discussions about evolution versus creationism. It is even harder for him to accept how so many people who cant explain how evolution can account for all life claim that it is a fact, while at the same time insisting anyone who wants to consider or discuss creationism as a possibility cannot be a real scientist.

                                I see nothing outrageous or fitting to disqualify him for president in this. If you do I'd like you to point it out.

                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                  It seems like evolutionists rely as much in faith of the re tarded fish frog-squirrel as creationists do on god.

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    Based on what? That article you read above?

                                    You realize there is a ton of evidence to support evolution, right? And to even consider saying it has the same level of evidence to support it as creationism is asinine, right?

                                    But damn, choosing to defend Carsons young earth views is one way to defend his willful ignorance I guess. Maybe not the smartest choice, but you have every right to do it...

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      God Bless Carson.

                                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                        T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                                        What I see is a guy who believes something and a logical reason for him to believe it. I myself don't believe it but I don't get my panties all wadded up toddling about quacking "willful ignorance" because the guy is a candidate who I feel could be an excellent trustworthy thoughtful president and you fucking want hillary clinton.

                                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                          Here's what he's talking about.

                                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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