Marcus Mariota is Terrible

Mike H

@columbusking said:
Nothing I said was wrong lol, and you give no rebutle, you just say Johnny didn't suck total ass, so that's good enough

I gave a rebuttal, because I watched the game and charted Manziel. Looked better than Bridgewater does right now

ColumbusKing

@mike-h said:
I gave a rebuttal, because I watched the game and charted Manziel. Looked better than Bridgewater does right now

McCown looked better then all 3

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@bringbackbrownie2 said:
Mariota? You have been hyping Winston for the past 2 years...

I've been "hyping" both, I guess you could say.

I've been vocal about Winston's off field transgressions being less than what people made them out to be, and how he is almost the perfect prospect.

I've been vocal about how Mariota could have a very similar skill set to Aaron Rodgers, despite some people claiming he's a gimmick.

I'll admit I was higher on Winston than Mariota at first. I was even anti Mariota. But when I actually did my own research and stopped listening to what ESPN told me, I saw more to be excited about and less to be worried about.

Tour2ma

Yes, you got on board early.

Despite our JFF experience, the whole "play call" thing has always seemed overblown to me, but the ease with which MM has added under-center, QB play to his pistol/shotgun repertoire has surprised me.

@miktoxic said:
Mike H has no friends here. 🥷

Beat me to it...

@mike-h said:
I gave a rebuttal, because I watched the game and charted Manziel. Looked better than Bridgewater does right now

Could always just scan and post your chart... Bridgewater's too for comparison. Big time savers...

JM's performance was a very mixed bag to my eye. Early he had successes like a very early hot read and spotting Benji breaking open.

Missing Hawkins was not a product of a ball thrown too high... it was thrown too wide by a QB whose strengths are supposed to include throwing on the run... even to the left.

Then it seemed as if the Jets went to their Defending JM chapter and the good waned.

The INT throw was straight out of 2014... late and to the inside. Not sure, but I think it was a blind throw to an estimated spot.

One of the two fumbles were even more concerning. He set up the one where he bailed to his right and stopped. in doing so he created a total blind side in which he simply stood too long, setting up the strip-sack.

The other fumble was simply a matter of a stronger defender punching the ball from the grip of a weaker player. It was a good, opportunistic defensive play.

BaconHound

I'd like to think after that steaming turd we laid week one that after watching film and being at home the defense will disrupt Mariota. Just hope the offense can sustain drives and keep the defense off the field.

WalterWhite

@douche-nozzle said:
If you think little Johnny was a bright spot you deserve to watch an entire season with him as the starting QB and amassing more negative stats than any QB in history.

He was you fucking nimrod

tiamat63

@walterwhite said:

He was you fucking nimrod

Outside of a deep strike...? No, not really.

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63 comp | 97 att | 63% | 833 yards | 8 TD | 2 INT | 109.2 Rating

8th in yards.

4th in TD's.

7th in rating.

4th in 1st Down %

1st in 20+ yard completions.

Already has one perfect game.

Oh, and guess what? He did all this while still being sacked 12 times, because his offensive line is worse than anything we currently have.

Just your friendly reminder, to those who said he'd be a failure.

I will eat my crow on one thing, however, because Winston is looking plenty mediocre.

WalterWhite

The Titans were NOT giving that pick up unless someone offered 3-4 1st rounders. No prospect is worth that especially after the RG3 debacle.

Mariota is going to be good for a very very long time I'm afraid. Another team lands a FQB and our stubborn head coach won't see if we have one.

Unsympathetic

Incorrect.

The Titans were not giving up that pick -- full stop. No "unless" anything -- they weren't giving up that pick, period.

You can't force anyone to accept something you propose.

WalterWhite

@unsympathetic said:

Incorrect.

The Titans were not giving up that pick -- full stop. No "unless" anything -- they weren't giving up that pick, period.

You can't force anyone to accept something you propose.

You're right. I remember Chip Kelly saying something the asking price was though the roof. Titans weren't budging.

A franchise QB for 10-15 years is invaluable to a franchise.

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@walterwhite said:

The Titans were NOT giving that pick up unless someone offered 3-4 1st rounders. No prospect is worth that especially after the RG3 debacle.

Mariota is going to be good for a very very long time I'm afraid. Another team lands a FQB and our stubborn head coach won't see if we have one.

They were not giving up the pick regardless.

However, the point of this thread is to continually remind those that thought Mariota was a "gimmick QB with no NFL future" that they were wrong. It's not to lament missing out on him, there's enough of that on every other forum on the internet.

Mariota is poised to be a very similar player as Aaron Rodgers. Similar arm talent, vaguely similar demeanor, similar attributes.

Westside Steve

0 and 1 against Johnny Manziel head to head.

WSS

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@westside-steve said:

0 and 1 against Johnny Manziel head to head.

WSS

Also a true stat. If you would have asked me how I would want his season to play out last month, I'd have said as much.

Only difference is that I'd have wanted Manziel to be undefeated to this point.

DieHardBrownsFan

And yet we start McClown............

Suomi

"Mariota is poised to be a very similar player as Aaron Rodgers." Whoa, let the young QB get a few seasons under his belt before he starts getting mentioned in the same breath as the best QB in the NFL. You sound like you're back to believing the ESPN hype.

jcam222

@columbusking said:

13 for 24? Alright sure he is great, I love missing wide open touchdowns, and overthrowing our 6'5 TE, I especially love left handed throws!!

Besides the fact that you can't deny that he is always taking a bee line out of the pocket, he simply can't see.

. I have never been a Johnny fan boy but this post is just stupid. Have you watched Josh's attempts at the long ball?? Were you there to see Johnny dropping dimes on Benji? Actually leading receivers? Did he make some questionable throws? Absolutely but so do vets. I think if we let him throw 30 times in that game he puts up legendary stats. The ONLY thing horrible was ball security.

wargograw

Vince Young won rookie of the year. Let's wait more than 3 games on Mariota. He's played two terrible defenses.

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@suomi said:
"Mariota is poised to be a very similar player as Aaron Rodgers." Whoa, let the young QB get a few seasons under his belt before he starts getting mentioned in the same breath as the best QB in the NFL. You sound like you're back to believing the ESPN hype.

Do you know what the word poised means?

I'll pause while you look it up.

MasterDog

Are you folks serious?

After 3 games he's thrown for 833 yards, 8 TD and 2 INT (one was bounced off of his TE's chest).

That's 277 yards and 2 TD a game.

It amazes me how POOR some of us Brown's fans evaluate QBs. Fock'n piss poor. No wonder the Browns never get it right. We got moron fans pushing for midget QB that can only play school yard football.