STALLWORTH UPDATE
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I agree Flugs...when you really take a honest look at Savage and his moves, it doesn't add up to a pretty picture.
Not to twist this in the direction of half a dozen threads at any given time, but I hope his track record doesn't apply to Quinn. We really need for something good to happen out of the web spun by Phil.
Between guys with questionable ability or questionable behavior, the Savage era might have been worse than Butch.
Anyway, I am going to disregard the last few conversations we have had and go back to thinking of you as the guy 100 miles up the road.
I agree Flugs...when you really take a honest look at Savage and his moves, it doesn't add up to a pretty picture.
Not to twist this in the direction of half a dozen threads at any given time, but I hope his track record doesn't apply to Quinn. We really need for something good to happen out of the web spun by Phil.
Between guys with questionable ability or questionable behavior, the Savage era might have been worse than Butch.
Anyway, I am going to disregard the last few conversations we have had and go back to thinking of you as the guy 100 miles up the road.
Very well said and thank you for that last part. We're cool. For what it's worth, I've always enjoyed reading your posts and I look forward to more of the same in the future.
Let's hope 2009 heads toward upside. I'm excited about April - I have a feeling we're going to be increasing our volume of picks.
- Tom F.
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I agree Flugs...when you really take a honest look at Savage and his moves, it doesn't add up to a pretty picture.
Not to twist this in the direction of half a dozen threads at any given time, but I hope his track record doesn't apply to Quinn. We really need for something good to happen out of the web spun by Phil.
Between guys with questionable ability or questionable behavior, the Savage era might have been worse than Butch.
Anyway, I am going to disregard the last few conversations we have had and go back to thinking of you as the guy 100 miles up the road.
I agree Flugs...when you really take a honest look at Savage and his moves, it doesn't add up to a pretty picture.
Not to twist this in the direction of half a dozen threads at any given time, but I hope his track record doesn't apply to Quinn. We really need for something good to happen out of the web spun by Phil.
Between guys with questionable ability or questionable behavior, the Savage era might have been worse than Butch.
Anyway, I am going to disregard the last few conversations we have had and go back to thinking of you as the guy 100 miles up the road.
The worst part is finding out now how much he locked up into GUARANTEED roster bonuses. Pisses me off to find out that money has to paid whether the guys are on the team or not.
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Report: Stallworth Over Legal Limit, Unconfirmed
An attorney representing Cleveland Browns receiver Donte' Stallworth, along with Miami Beach Police, have said they cannot confirm media reports that Stallworth has been found over the legal limit for driving while intoxicated in connection with a traffic accident that left a Miami man dead on the MacArthur Causeway last weekend.
The report, broadcast at noon on a South Florida television station, cited unnamed sources "close to the investigation" in reporting Stallworth's blood alcohol limit from a test done shortly after the accident, was "slightly over the legal limit."
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kiss him goodbye
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Can we just release him and walk away ? if he goes into the slammer, will we still have to honor the contract and will it count towards our salary cap ?
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Can we just release him and walk away ? if he goes into the slammer, will we still have to honor the contract and will it count towards our salary cap ?
Can we just release him and walk away ? if he goes into the slammer, will we still have to honor the contract and will it count towards our salary cap ?
i think that there is a clause in all professional contracts saying that if the player is convicted of a felony and is sentenced to jail then yes we can cancel the contract and save money.
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so the only positive that might happen is that we just saved a bunch on money by switching to geico ?
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so the only positive that might happen is that we just saved a bunch on money by switching to geico ?
so the only positive that might happen is that we just saved a bunch on money by switching to geico ?
yeah, cutting stallworth could keep us out of the welfare line.
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Any other felons available?
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Any other felons available?
Any other felons available?
call the bengals
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Can we just release him and walk away ? if he goes into the slammer, will we still have to honor the contract and will it count towards our salary cap ?
Can we just release him and walk away ? if he goes into the slammer, will we still have to honor the contract and will it count towards our salary cap ?
Here's where the Browns are and a reason they won't release him. They will only suspend him at this point I would imagine. When he signed with the Browns he was given a signing bonus of about $4.5 million (don't know if that is exact). I know he was guaranteed over $9 million with his contract. He was given another bonus of $4+ million the day before the accident.
Although he was given the signing bonus in cash, that amount was divided equally by the number of years he signed for and that + his salary is the cap hit. If he is released the remainder of the bonus that was spread over the life of the contract will all be applied to this years cap. Know, I don't know if what he was given this year can be canceled or not. so, the problem is guaranteed $$ that have already been received. Since this years was divided into two installments, they may be able to get out of half because of a morals clause in every players contract.
They could suspend him and not have to take anymore additional cap hit and won't have to pay his salary. But if he is released all the bonus money will become cap income since it has already been paid.
Might be better off suspending him so we won't have to pay his salary. If you wait until after June 1st (I believe that's the date) to release him then the cap bonus money can be spread over this year and next year. And, we know that there may not be a cap next year.
So, it isn't about what he is owed, it is about what he has already been paid and hasn't claimed toward the cap yet.
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Source: Donté Stallworth was drunk at time of fatal accident
BY JENNIFER LEBOVICH
Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donté Stallworth was driving drunk -- blood alcohol tests showed he was over the legal limit -- last weekend when he struck and killed a pedestrian with his Bentley in Miami Beach, a source with knowledge of the investigation told The Miami Herald.
Miami Beach police would not confirm Stallworth had a blood alcohol above the legal limit.
''We have not released anything regarding the blood work,'' said Jenny Velazquez, a Miami Beach police spokeswoman. ``We're not confirming anything.''
WSVN-Fox reported Thursday afternoon that Stallwroth's blood alcohol level was .12. The legal limit is .08.
No charges have been filed against Stallworth, 28, who is seen on a video obtained by The Herald being given a sobriety test by two Miami Beach police officers.
Stallworth, who is cooperating with police, issued a statement Wednesday expressing his condolences to the family of Mario Reyes.
''My family and I are grief stricken over the tragic accident which occurred Saturday on Miami Beach where Mario Reyes sadly lost his life,'' Stallworth said in a prepared statement. ``My thoughts and prayers are with the Reyes family during this incredibly difficult time.
''Unfortunately, since this accident is still under police investigation, I cannot comment further on the matter at this time,'' Stallworth said.
Reyes, 59, was getting off work as an overnight crane operator and trying to cross the street to catch a bus home just after 7 a.m. He died at the scene.
Reyes was born in Cuba and left as a teenager for a better life in the United States. He worked numerous construction jobs. He was an avid baseball fan, particularly fond of the Florida Marlins. Reyes is survived by his wife of almost 20 years, Catalina, and the couple's 15-year-old daughter, Daniela.
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If he was really .12, I can't understand why he was released rather than booked on the spot. .12 isn't so close you might fake out the officers......you slur pretty good at that point.
Something just isn't adding up at this point. We will just have to wait and see......but right now, it looks like Dainty is in a pretty hard place right now.
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I think you can fool them at .12 Peen . Really just takes concentration , and old pros can pull it off .
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Browns WR Donte Stallworth's Blood Alcohol Level Over Legal Limit!
Oh no it might be jail time.
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the thing is that a level of .12 affects everyone differently. A person who drinks frequently may be able to drive at .12. a lightweight will probably wreck their car at .12.
He may have seemed sober to the cops because he can handle the alcohol.
It's still wrong, as any amount can affect your ability to drive. But he may be able to function somewhat normally at .12.
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Being a professional athlete, he was probably able to pull off the sobriety tests better than the average drunk
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Being a professional athlete, he was probably able to pull off the sobriety tests better than the average drunk
Being a professional athlete, he was probably able to pull off the sobriety tests better than the average drunk
The story about his BA level is pure speculation at this point.
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