STALLWORTH UPDATE
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Can we just release him and walk away ? if he goes into the slammer, will we still have to honor the contract and will it count towards our salary cap ?
Can we just release him and walk away ? if he goes into the slammer, will we still have to honor the contract and will it count towards our salary cap ?
i think that there is a clause in all professional contracts saying that if the player is convicted of a felony and is sentenced to jail then yes we can cancel the contract and save money.
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so the only positive that might happen is that we just saved a bunch on money by switching to geico ?
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so the only positive that might happen is that we just saved a bunch on money by switching to geico ?
so the only positive that might happen is that we just saved a bunch on money by switching to geico ?
yeah, cutting stallworth could keep us out of the welfare line.
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Any other felons available?
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Any other felons available?
Any other felons available?
call the bengals
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Can we just release him and walk away ? if he goes into the slammer, will we still have to honor the contract and will it count towards our salary cap ?
Can we just release him and walk away ? if he goes into the slammer, will we still have to honor the contract and will it count towards our salary cap ?
Here's where the Browns are and a reason they won't release him. They will only suspend him at this point I would imagine. When he signed with the Browns he was given a signing bonus of about $4.5 million (don't know if that is exact). I know he was guaranteed over $9 million with his contract. He was given another bonus of $4+ million the day before the accident.
Although he was given the signing bonus in cash, that amount was divided equally by the number of years he signed for and that + his salary is the cap hit. If he is released the remainder of the bonus that was spread over the life of the contract will all be applied to this years cap. Know, I don't know if what he was given this year can be canceled or not. so, the problem is guaranteed $$ that have already been received. Since this years was divided into two installments, they may be able to get out of half because of a morals clause in every players contract.
They could suspend him and not have to take anymore additional cap hit and won't have to pay his salary. But if he is released all the bonus money will become cap income since it has already been paid.
Might be better off suspending him so we won't have to pay his salary. If you wait until after June 1st (I believe that's the date) to release him then the cap bonus money can be spread over this year and next year. And, we know that there may not be a cap next year.
So, it isn't about what he is owed, it is about what he has already been paid and hasn't claimed toward the cap yet.
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Source: Donté Stallworth was drunk at time of fatal accident
BY JENNIFER LEBOVICH
Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donté Stallworth was driving drunk -- blood alcohol tests showed he was over the legal limit -- last weekend when he struck and killed a pedestrian with his Bentley in Miami Beach, a source with knowledge of the investigation told The Miami Herald.
Miami Beach police would not confirm Stallworth had a blood alcohol above the legal limit.
''We have not released anything regarding the blood work,'' said Jenny Velazquez, a Miami Beach police spokeswoman. ``We're not confirming anything.''
WSVN-Fox reported Thursday afternoon that Stallwroth's blood alcohol level was .12. The legal limit is .08.
No charges have been filed against Stallworth, 28, who is seen on a video obtained by The Herald being given a sobriety test by two Miami Beach police officers.
Stallworth, who is cooperating with police, issued a statement Wednesday expressing his condolences to the family of Mario Reyes.
''My family and I are grief stricken over the tragic accident which occurred Saturday on Miami Beach where Mario Reyes sadly lost his life,'' Stallworth said in a prepared statement. ``My thoughts and prayers are with the Reyes family during this incredibly difficult time.
''Unfortunately, since this accident is still under police investigation, I cannot comment further on the matter at this time,'' Stallworth said.
Reyes, 59, was getting off work as an overnight crane operator and trying to cross the street to catch a bus home just after 7 a.m. He died at the scene.
Reyes was born in Cuba and left as a teenager for a better life in the United States. He worked numerous construction jobs. He was an avid baseball fan, particularly fond of the Florida Marlins. Reyes is survived by his wife of almost 20 years, Catalina, and the couple's 15-year-old daughter, Daniela.
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If he was really .12, I can't understand why he was released rather than booked on the spot. .12 isn't so close you might fake out the officers......you slur pretty good at that point.
Something just isn't adding up at this point. We will just have to wait and see......but right now, it looks like Dainty is in a pretty hard place right now.
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I think you can fool them at .12 Peen . Really just takes concentration , and old pros can pull it off .
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Browns WR Donte Stallworth's Blood Alcohol Level Over Legal Limit!
Oh no it might be jail time.
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the thing is that a level of .12 affects everyone differently. A person who drinks frequently may be able to drive at .12. a lightweight will probably wreck their car at .12.
He may have seemed sober to the cops because he can handle the alcohol.
It's still wrong, as any amount can affect your ability to drive. But he may be able to function somewhat normally at .12.
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Being a professional athlete, he was probably able to pull off the sobriety tests better than the average drunk
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Being a professional athlete, he was probably able to pull off the sobriety tests better than the average drunk
Being a professional athlete, he was probably able to pull off the sobriety tests better than the average drunk
The story about his BA level is pure speculation at this point.
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The fact that IF he had anything in his system means he's screwed. We are talking about a fatality here.
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The fact that IF he had anything in his system means he's screwed. We are talking about a fatality here.
TheJokersWILD said:
The fact that he had anything in his system means he's screwed. We are talking about a fatality here.Again..... the news report about the BA level is unverified, unconfirmed, fabricated.
Just because the news claims his BA level was .12 doesn't mean that he indeed had something in his system.
At this point nothing has been established except time and cause of death.
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on a personal level, if this report is accurate and he was drunk, i hope he at least goes to prison for the rest of his life. the victim's family needs some serious, old-school justice, and prison is a start, though having him executed would, to me, be a far superior solution.
from a business standpoint, goodell's going to kick stallworth out of the league because he drove drunk and killed someone. the league will likely suspend him indefinitely pending the results of his trial, then formally kick him out once he's found guilty, thus negating his contract entirely and saving us the cap hit. goodell might kick him out even if he wasn't drunk.
in the event he's found innocent, we'll have to take either the cap hit or the PR hit, and i know which one mankok will go for.
this is a very interesting test for goodell, and i'm surprised he hasn't already taken action. he needs to, and soon.
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on a personal level, if this report is accurate and he was drunk, i hope he at least goes to prison for the rest of his life. the victim's family needs some serious, old-school justice, and prison is a start, though having him executed would, to me, be a far superior solution.
from a business standpoint, goodell's going to kick stallworth out of the league because he drove drunk and killed someone. the league will likely suspend him indefinitely pending the results of his trial, then formally kick him out once he's found guilty, thus negating his contract entirely and saving us the cap hit. goodell might kick him out even if he wasn't drunk.
in the event he's found innocent, we'll have to take either the cap hit or the PR hit, and i know which one mankok will go for.
this is a very interesting test for goodell, and i'm surprised he hasn't already taken action. he needs to, and soon.
on a personal level, if he was drunk, i hope he at least goes to prison for the rest of his life. the victim's family needs some serious, old-school justice, and prison is a start, though having him executed would, to me, be a far superior solution.
from a business standpoint, goodell's going to kick stallworth out of the league because he drove drunk and killed someone. the league will likely suspend him indefinitely pending the results of his trial, then formally kick him out once he's found guilty, thus negating his contract entirely and saving us the cap hit.
in the event he's found innocent, we'll have to take either the cap hit or the PR hit, and i know which one mankok will go for.
this is a very interesting test for goodell, and i'm surprised he hasn't already taken action. he needs to, and soon.
How can Goodell take action on an issue that has not fully been verified yet? Secondly... you would like to see him spend the rest of his life in jail? My twin nephews were shot and killed a week ago along with their mother, sister and aunt. The man who did it... went to jail for murder once before and was released. Those... type of individuals should spend life in prison! Stallworth most likely got wasted earlier that night/morning... slept till 7ish and headed home with a freakish hangover and accidently hit this poor man. Yet he deserves life or the death pen.??? What kind of justice is that? Correctional Facilities are supposed to "correct" not torture for life ones -ONE mistake.
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on a personal level, if he was drunk, i hope he at least goes to prison for the rest of his life. the victim's family needs some serious, old-school justice, and prison is a start, though having him executed would, to me, be a far superior solution.
from a business standpoint, goodell's going to kick stallworth out of the league because he drove drunk and killed someone. the league will likely suspend him indefinitely pending the results of his trial, then formally kick him out once he's found guilty, thus negating his contract entirely and saving us the cap hit.
in the event he's found innocent, we'll have to take either the cap hit or the PR hit, and i know which one mankok will go for.
this is a very interesting test for goodell, and i'm surprised he hasn't already taken action. he needs to, and soon.
How can Goodell take action on an issue that has not fully been verified yet? Secondly... you would like to see him spend the rest of his life in jail? My twin nephews were shot and killed a week ago along with their mother, sister and aunt. The man who did it... went to jail for murder once before and was released. Those... type of individuals should spend life in prison! Stallworth most likely got wasted earlier that night/morning... slept till 7ish and headed home with a freakish hangover and accidently hit this poor man. Yet he deserves life or the death pen.??? What kind of justice is that? Correctional Facilities are supposed to "correct" not torture for life ones -ONE mistake.
How can Goodell take action on an issue that has not fully been verified yet? Secondly... you would like to see him spend the rest of his life in jail? My twin nephews were shot and killed a week ago along with their mother, sister and aunt. The man who did it... went to jail for murder once before and was released. Those... type of individuals should spend life in prison! Stallworth most likely got wasted earlier that night/morning... slept till 7ish and headed home with a freakish hangover and accidently hit this poor man. Yet he deserves life or the death pen.??? What kind of justice is that? Correctional Facilities are supposed to "correct" not torture for life ones -ONE mistake.
first, i'm sorry for your loss. i can't imagine your pain, and i'm sorry you have to go through it. it's terrible, and i hope the person who did it at least goes to prison for the rest of his life.
on goodell: he can take action right now because we already know that stallworth was operating a vehicle that killed someone. that's reason enough for him to be suspended pending investigation.
and i can't decide whether you're right or not about whether i overreacted re: his punishment, though my initial assessment was based on his being drunk. i personally believe, which isn't something that anyone else has to agree with, that people who simply get caught driving drunk should either lose their licenses for five years or face insane, crippling fines. when adding manslaughter to that belief, it's not unreasonable, to me, that he go to prison for an extended term. DUI manslaughter represents such a severe lapse in, or utter lack of, judgment that the person who commits it obviously has little to no grasp of how to function in society.
and correctional facilities don't help people. our current system of rehabilitating criminals psychologically damages people far more than rebuilding them, but that's a completely different debate.
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