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Liberty Counsel and Judges fight perverted redefinition of real, natural Marriage

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  • I dealt with tons of kids who would have been better off with gay parents who actually wanted to be parents as opposed to the scum they ended up with.

  • 1) So then divorce should be illegal, right?

    2) Parenting aside, married couples don't have to have kids. The issue right now isn't gay adoption/parents, just gay marriage. Why should gay marriage be illegal?

    I don't think you're right on either topic, but breaking the two up will help keep this "debate" focused.

  • Divorce does not equal a perverted distortion of what true, natural marriage is as defined.

    And yes, we all know married couples don't have to have kids. has nothing to do with what we are talking about as usual.

    The idea is that most of them do, and nearly all of them can.

    There is no gay couple that can. Go buy yourself a couple of strong magnets and come back

    when you can stick to the subject.

  • Divorce does not equal a perverted distortion of what true, natural marriage is as defined.

    And yes, we all know married couples don't have to have kids. has nothing to do with what we are talking about as usual.

    The idea is that most of them do, and nearly all of them can.

    There is no gay couple that can. Go buy yourself a couple of strong magnets and come back

    when you can stick to the subject.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Divorce does not equal a perverted distortion of what true, natural marriage is as defined.

    And yes, we all know married couples don't have to have kids. has nothing to do with what we are talking about as usual.

    The idea is that most of them do, and nearly all of them can.

    There is no gay couple that can. Go buy yourself a couple of strong magnets and come back

    when you can stick to the subject.

    Humans are not like magnets.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Divorce does not equal a perverted distortion of what true, natural marriage is as defined.

    And yes, we all know married couples don't have to have kids. has nothing to do with what we are talking about as usual.

    The idea is that most of them do, and nearly all of them can.

    There is no gay couple that can. Go buy yourself a couple of strong magnets and come back

    when you can stick to the subject.

    Humans are not like magnets.

    @bbedward said:

    Humans are not like magnets.

    Forget it, he's rolling.

  • Human sexuality mostly is, but the difference is unnatural and perverted,

    It is attraction by opposites. Obviously, there are exceptions with human beings,

    but accentuates the perverse aspect of it.

    It's sad - but a few people around here seem so much like magnetiphobes.

  • Human sexuality mostly is, but the difference is unnatural and perverted,

    It is attraction by opposites. Obviously, there are exceptions with human beings,

    but accentuates the perverse aspect of it.

    It's sad - but a few people around here seem so much like magnetiphobes.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Human sexuality mostly is, but the difference is unnatural and perverted,

    It is attraction by opposites. Obviously, there are exceptions with human beings,

    but accentuates the perverse aspect of it.

    It's sad - but a few people around here seem so much like magnetiphobes.

    It actually isn't like a magnet at all. It is on a scale, not two polar ends only.

  • Divorce does not equal a perverted distortion of what true, natural marriage is as defined.

    And yes, we all know married couples don't have to have kids. has nothing to do with what we are talking about as usual.

    The idea is that most of them do, and nearly all of them can.

    There is no gay couple that can. Go buy yourself a couple of strong magnets and come back

    when you can stick to the subject.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Divorce does not equal a perverted distortion of what true, natural marriage is as defined.

    And yes, we all know married couples don't have to have kids. has nothing to do with what we are talking about as usual.

    The idea is that most of them do, and nearly all of them can.

    There is no gay couple that can. Go buy yourself a couple of strong magnets and come back

    when you can stick to the subject.

    Your main argument against gay marriage seems to be gays raising kids. You also don't have veery much to prove it is worse to be raised by a gay couple. Even assuming it is, and your concern is the kid, there are two big points you need to address:

    1) Divorce. A single parent household, under your reasoning earlier, will produce similar negative results. If this is enough for you to keep gay marriage illegal, you should be for making divorce illegal.

    2) Not all married couples have kids. You keep assuming the two ideas are one in the same. Let's say gays are banned from adopting kids, can they get married then?

    and yes, this is all a pointless exercise. It will be legal everywhere soon enough

  • People who supposedly (at least in your mind) make less-than-optimal parents should not be able to get married. I mean, I disagree, but let's roll with it for a moment, can you point me to the massive protests against the following people getting married:

    Alcoholics

    Drug users

    Criminals

    Both full time employed

    Both unemployed

    Blind/deaf/other disabled people

    People who will most likely get divorced

    Atheists

    Anti-vaxxers

    Black people

    There's a whole host of groups of people you can look at that are sub-optimal parents, because the group of optimal-parents is so negligibly small.

  • People who supposedly (at least in your mind) make less-than-optimal parents should not be able to get married. I mean, I disagree, but let's roll with it for a moment, can you point me to the massive protests against the following people getting married:

    Alcoholics

    Drug users

    Criminals

    Both full time employed

    Both unemployed

    Blind/deaf/other disabled people

    People who will most likely get divorced

    Atheists

    Anti-vaxxers

    Black people

    There's a whole host of groups of people you can look at that are sub-optimal parents, because the group of optimal-parents is so negligibly small.

    @gftchris said:

    People who supposedly (at least in your mind) make less-than-optimal parents should not be able to get married. I mean, I disagree, but let's roll with it for a moment, can you point me to the massive protests against the following people getting married:

    Alcoholics

    Drug users

    Criminals

    Both full time employed

    Both unemployed

    Blind/deaf/other disabled people

    People who will most likely get divorced

    Atheists

    Anti-vaxxers

    Black people

    There's a whole host of groups of people you can look at that are sub-optimal parents, because the group of optimal-parents is so negligibly small.

    Well like it or not the numbers do seem to support that idea.

    But of course children be damned. People have rights and who cares if their desire fucks up a child's life.

    WSS

  • @gftchris said:

    People who supposedly (at least in your mind) make less-than-optimal parents should not be able to get married. I mean, I disagree, but let's roll with it for a moment, can you point me to the massive protests against the following people getting married:

    Alcoholics

    Drug users

    Criminals

    Both full time employed

    Both unemployed

    Blind/deaf/other disabled people

    People who will most likely get divorced

    Atheists

    Anti-vaxxers

    Black people

    There's a whole host of groups of people you can look at that are sub-optimal parents, because the group of optimal-parents is so negligibly small.

    Well like it or not the numbers do seem to support that idea.

    But of course children be damned. People have rights and who cares if their desire fucks up a child's life.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Well like it or not the numbers do seem to support that idea.

    But of course children be damned. People have rights and who cares if their desire fucks up a child's life.

    WSS

    I'm not convinced that they do, but the numbers definitely support other groups of people not being good parents, and that was the point I was making. Why aren't we protesting drug users getting married, if it's only about the quality of parent they will be?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well like it or not the numbers do seem to support that idea.

    But of course children be damned. People have rights and who cares if their desire fucks up a child's life.

    WSS

    I'm not convinced that they do, but the numbers definitely support other groups of people not being good parents, and that was the point I was making. Why aren't we protesting drug users getting married, if it's only about the quality of parent they will be?

    @gftchris said:

    I'm not convinced that they do, but the numbers definitely support other groups of people not being good parents, and that was the point I was making. Why aren't we protesting drug users getting married, if it's only about the quality of parent they will be?

    We?

    I think we are far too lax in our morality when it comes to rearing children. There should be some shame involved and some responsibility. But it appears to me at least that one of the main ideas of the left is to assuage feelings of guilt and morality in return for votes.

    WSS

  • @gftchris said:

    I'm not convinced that they do, but the numbers definitely support other groups of people not being good parents, and that was the point I was making. Why aren't we protesting drug users getting married, if it's only about the quality of parent they will be?

    We?

    I think we are far too lax in our morality when it comes to rearing children. There should be some shame involved and some responsibility. But it appears to me at least that one of the main ideas of the left is to assuage feelings of guilt and morality in return for votes.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    We?

    I think we are far too lax in our morality when it comes to rearing children. There should be some shame involved and some responsibility. But it appears to me at least that one of the main ideas of the left is to assuage feelings of guilt and morality in return for votes.

    WSS

    I thought it was to instil white guilt to make giving free stuff to black people OK? Or am I getting mixed up?

  • Also, nice dodge.

  • Uh..umm... Free stuff!

  • @westside-steve said:

    We?

    I think we are far too lax in our morality when it comes to rearing children. There should be some shame involved and some responsibility. But it appears to me at least that one of the main ideas of the left is to assuage feelings of guilt and morality in return for votes.

    WSS

    I thought it was to instil white guilt to make giving free stuff to black people OK? Or am I getting mixed up?

    @gftchris said:

    I thought it was to instil white guilt to make giving free stuff to black people OK? Or am I getting mixed up?

    Probably. I thought we were talking about your list of people who probably shouldn't raise children.

    But we do tend to patronize minorities.

    WSS

  • As to the Dodge I don't think a homosexual couple is necessarily the worst environment for a child when compared to your list. So what?

    Is there some point I've missed?

    WSS

  • Uh..umm... Free stuff!

    @mld-woody said:

    Uh..umm... Free stuff!

    Uh..umm... homosexuals!

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Uh..umm... Free stuff!

    Uh..umm... homosexuals!

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Uh..umm... homosexuals!

    WSS

    Did I start this thread?

    Am I not on topic?