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  • "...and Sam Cassell isn't the answer either for them"

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    @the-user-from-cleveland said:

    "...and Sam Cassell isn't the answer either for them"

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    Matt...Sam....whatever...neither one of them is a good QB so what's the difference??

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well he's won every game he's started this season.

    WSS

    That makes him 1-2 as an NFL starter.

    @baconhound said:

    That makes him 1-2 as an NFL starter.

    Vs McCown as a Browns starter?

    WSS

  • I've never been of fan of Manziel, but I gotta take his side on this one.

    You know damned well the cop(s) gave him a field sobriety test, which he passed.

    He's only guilty of having psycho Sally as his GF.

    Time to ditch the bitch.

  • 1 + 3, lifetime 18 35. Josh McCown.

    Pretty even so far?

    WSS

  • I think Espn Nailed it right on the fucking head for once......Browns are ENABLING

  • You guys are fucking Retarded.

  • The guy posting about alcoholism is correct, it is a disease, that is medical fact.

    Maybe a better comparison would have been depression than cancer, but to say its a choice to pick up a drink it ignorant, an ignorance you can only properly understand if you've been there yourself. He will know as well as I do, the first step to a successful recovery is to accept you are POWERLESS over alcohol, think of it more as an ongoing struggle/battle (a recovering alcoholic will still die an alcoholic) than a choice.

    @chimpy07 said:

    The guy posting about alcoholism is correct, it is a disease, that is medical fact.

    Maybe a better comparison would have been depression than cancer, but to say its a choice to pick up a drink it ignorant, an ignorance you can only properly understand if you've been there yourself. He will know as well as I do, the first step to a successful recovery is to accept you are POWERLESS over alcohol, think of it more as an ongoing struggle/battle (a recovering alcoholic will still die an alcoholic) than a choice.

    Good post and in retrospect the comparison to cancer wasn't the best. The overall thought I wanted to convey was simply the disease piece of the equation.
  • The guy posting about alcoholism is correct, it is a disease, that is medical fact.

    Maybe a better comparison would have been depression than cancer, but to say its a choice to pick up a drink it ignorant, an ignorance you can only properly understand if you've been there yourself. He will know as well as I do, the first step to a successful recovery is to accept you are POWERLESS over alcohol, think of it more as an ongoing struggle/battle (a recovering alcoholic will still die an alcoholic) than a choice.

    @chimpy07 said:

    The guy posting about alcoholism is correct, it is a disease, that is medical fact.

    Maybe a better comparison would have been depression than cancer, but to say its a choice to pick up a drink it ignorant, an ignorance you can only properly understand if you've been there yourself. He will know as well as I do, the first step to a successful recovery is to accept you are POWERLESS over alcohol, think of it more as an ongoing struggle/battle (a recovering alcoholic will still die an alcoholic) than a choice.

    I disagree. There should be some accountability by the person.

  • At least the statement reads like JM may have notified the FO of the incident.

    "We were aware of the situation. It is a matter that we take seriously and have expressed our concerns to Johnny directly. Those conversations will remain private and we will refrain from further comment at this time." - Ray Farmer

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Statement-from-Ray-Farmer-on-incident-involving-Johnny-Manziel/ec7dca90-3e61-46bd-890a-df8024beb45d

  • Text of the Police report.

    It cuts off as Crowley "field interview" begins so there is more somewhere, but is a lot more complete than the initial News5 report.

    Includes a surprise "appearance" by a co-worker of JM, Mr. Paul Kruger...

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  • At least the statement reads like JM may have notified the FO of the incident.

    "We were aware of the situation. It is a matter that we take seriously and have expressed our concerns to Johnny directly. Those conversations will remain private and we will refrain from further comment at this time." - Ray Farmer

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Statement-from-Ray-Farmer-on-incident-involving-Johnny-Manziel/ec7dca90-3e61-46bd-890a-df8024beb45d

    @tour2ma said:

    At least the statement reads like JM may have notified the FO of the incident.

    "We were aware of the situation. It is a matter that we take seriously and have expressed our concerns to Johnny directly. Those conversations will remain private and we will refrain from further comment at this time." - Ray Farmer

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Statement-from-Ray-Farmer-on-incident-involving-Johnny-Manziel/ec7dca90-3e61-46bd-890a-df8024beb45d

    Now, if he could keep his personal business as private as those conversations he keeps having with the FO......that would be great!

  • I find it hard to believe the average Joe pulled over in the same type scenario would not get a breathalyser test by the police.

  • Wow...I think we are missing something....if there is better evidence to show Johnny in a better light, the Browns would comment asap! No?

    Alcoholics ....I was told & believe that "its a clown waiting to finish his act". In that, the only cure is in their control, unlike a disease.

    I'm not saying being an addict isn't hard...hell, I smoke and my mother died of lung cancer too. But I have to say "that's it"!

    Go Browns!

  • Did she fuck Kruger I wonder? Why else would she have such a conniption that he appeared to help her boyfriend. That is really strange but given that her social media pages have a multitude of different men all over her I wouldn't be surprised if it was true OR he has been trying to convince JM to leave her and she threw a fit about it.

    There is absolutely no reason JM is even being remotely blamed for anything in this outside of bad decision with picking a chick which we all are guilty of at one time or another. She seems like a damn nightmare and the longer she stays in his life the more he will decline. He needs to get rid of her ASAP.

  • @baconhound said:

    That makes him 1-2 as an NFL starter.

    Vs McCown as a Browns starter?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Vs McCown as a Browns starter?

    WSS

    Not saying Mccown is any better but at some point the Browns will need to draft the guy who they think is the future and Josh is a better back up than the circus that is Johnny Rehab

  • I find it hard to believe the average Joe pulled over in the same type scenario would not get a breathalyser test by the police.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I find it hard to believe the average Joe pulled over in the same type scenario would not get a breathalyser test by the police.

    Exactly. If the officer was a fan and wanted to cut him some slack he wouldn't have written it up. Probably just issued a nothing to see here move along. If he wasn't a fan he'd make him walk the line and blow.

    WSS

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    I find it hard to believe the average Joe pulled over in the same type scenario would not get a breathalyser test by the police.

    Exactly. If the officer was a fan and wanted to cut him some slack he wouldn't have written it up. Probably just issued a nothing to see here move along. If he wasn't a fan he'd make him walk the line and blow.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Exactly. If the officer was a fan and wanted to cut him some slack he wouldn't have written it up. Probably just issued a nothing to see here move along.

    Not sure the officer had that option, Steve. Since he was responding to a citizen call a report might be mandatory.

  • @chimpy07 said:

    The guy posting about alcoholism is correct, it is a disease, that is medical fact.

    Maybe a better comparison would have been depression than cancer, but to say its a choice to pick up a drink it ignorant, an ignorance you can only properly understand if you've been there yourself. He will know as well as I do, the first step to a successful recovery is to accept you are POWERLESS over alcohol, think of it more as an ongoing struggle/battle (a recovering alcoholic will still die an alcoholic) than a choice.

    I disagree. There should be some accountability by the person.

    @bbedward said:

    I disagree. There should be some accountability by the person.

    I agree with you 100%. He's accountable for picking up so to speak. What he's not accountable for is the insane urge to do so. I can't explain it any better and don't expect you to understand or agree.
  • Look, I'm not a defender of Manziel here but this girl is a CLASSIC enabler. I wrote when Johnny first went to rehab that one of the first things he needed to do was break up with this woman. She doesn't care about Manziel, if she did she wouldn't let him anywhere near a bar let alone have a drink. He's a grown man I know, but still my point is she enables him into this type of bad habit. I hope Johnny realizes this and drops her like the literal bad habit she is.

  • Johnny's an alcoholic, his father said as much prior to his draft. He attended rehab for that and possibly cocaine (whether that's publicly admitted or not).Reports are now filtering out that he's been seen drinking more frequently publicly. The Browns security staff are definitely aware of this and this is probably why the front office signed Austin Davis to a long term. I don't think the Browns have given up on him but they're definitely making contingencies.