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  • The problem with mccown is that he doesn't win. A quarterback putting up his numbers should be winning.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    The problem with mccown is that he doesn't win. A quarterback putting up his numbers should be winning.

    When you're on the same team that is ranked dead last in defense, it really doesn't matter much who the QB is.

  • The great quarterbacks would still be winning. As close as some of these games have been, a tom brady would have a considerably different record.

  • This whole board is fucked up. Like the Browns. Please fucking ban me.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    This whole board is fucked up. Like the Browns. Please fucking ban me.

    It's just my opinion that he is a coward, you are allowed to disagree.

    Z

    -- Josh doesnt slide on 4th down before the marker, regardless of the score or the time left ... and you know it.

  • The great quarterbacks would still be winning. As close as some of these games have been, a tom brady would have a considerably different record.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    The great quarterbacks would still be winning. As close as some of these games have been, a tom brady would have a considerably different record.

    Josh is a career backup, not great.

    If the defense is just average, we would be 4-2 going into St Looey.

  • So when you aren't beating your girlfriend you are sliding short on 4th and 6?

    Start Davis if Josh can't go.

    Zombo

    --Fail for more special teamers like Mingo and Gilbert.

    Zombo said:

    So when you aren't beating your girlfriend you are sliding short on 4th and 6?

    Start Davis if Josh can't go.

    Zombo

    --Fail for more special teamers like Mingo and Gilbert.

    to be precise Z, I dorove 373 miles to watch that pile of crap-.Manziel was only in because Josh has ZERO internal clock. He has guts,but no brain. He is what he is- a career LOSER.

    Start Manziel- unless your idea of another great season is 2-14, or at best 4-12. I know what Josh does well now, and that's LOSE GAMES.

  • I refuse to think McCown is anything but but a guy who can have good stats most weeks. We need someone who can motivate and he's a low energy guy. So he throws for over 300 yards who cares? I'll take a running game with over a hundred yards and a QB that throws when necessary ala Russell Wilson. This team is so bad there's nothing to look forward to now. Pure Crap served on a tin platter!

  • Guys, the defense was very good against Denver....and really good for 3 quarters(they didn't score a point on offense first three qtrs) today.

    Against San Diego defense was terrible....bit last two weeks defense has been good and offense terrible.

  • Man I gotta agree with Zombo. That play at the end was meaningless, however it proved a huge point.

    Manziel hasn't learned a god damn thing. It's fourth fucking down, you HAVE to get a first down to keep even a glimmer of hope for the game, and you try to run for 7-8 yards after what looked like a one look read?? And you don't even come close to making it, AND NOW you go for the give up slide?? That's the only time you go for a superman gotta have it Manziel special dive.

    Actually, no don't dive at all... instead find Gary or Benji where ever they are behind the sticks and throw it up for grabs.... Doesn't matter if they are triple covered, it's 4th down, who gives a shit if they pick it. Give yourself a freaking chance... Dude killed to many brain cells drinking.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    I'm not stumphing for manziel. I'd rather see austin davis but I'm also pretty much done with mccown.

    I'd still rather watch McCown who is hardly the problem on this team but if he can't go, I'd rather see Davis than Johnny midget Retard.

    @mark-o said:

    I'd still rather watch McCown who is hardly the problem on this team but if he can't go, I'd rather see Davis than Johnny midget Retard.

    I'm glad to see you don't have an agenda

  • I have no idea if manziel can be good or not. But I know the 36 yo journeyman who is 2-15 in his last 17 starts isn't good, so.....

    You don't just stumble into a 2-15 record by chance....even with bad teams.

    Something about mccown in that Denver game rubbed me the wrong way.....how the heck did the offense not take just one of those huge stops or turnovers on defense late with that field position and not win? Mccown took a terrible sack on one and threw a terrible int on another.....and we just needed a fg on either

  • @mark-o said:

    I'd still rather watch McCown who is hardly the problem on this team but if he can't go, I'd rather see Davis than Johnny midget Retard.

    I'm glad to see you don't have an agenda

    @walterwhite said:

    I'm glad to see you don't have an agenda

    No agenda. I've seen all I need to see from your boyfriend johnny. From being totally unprepared to start the Cincy game last year to his rehab to everything else off the field that he does that good NFL quarterbacks don't do to know that I've seen enough. I don't think he will ever get it. He will self destruct and I'd rather he self destructs on someone elses team.

  • Man I gotta agree with Zombo. That play at the end was meaningless, however it proved a huge point.

    Manziel hasn't learned a god damn thing. It's fourth fucking down, you HAVE to get a first down to keep even a glimmer of hope for the game, and you try to run for 7-8 yards after what looked like a one look read?? And you don't even come close to making it, AND NOW you go for the give up slide?? That's the only time you go for a superman gotta have it Manziel special dive.

    Actually, no don't dive at all... instead find Gary or Benji where ever they are behind the sticks and throw it up for grabs.... Doesn't matter if they are triple covered, it's 4th down, who gives a shit if they pick it. Give yourself a freaking chance... Dude killed to many brain cells drinking.

    @hx214 said:

    Man I gotta agree with Zombo. That play at the end was meaningless, however it proved a huge point.

    Manziel hasn't learned a god damn thing. It's fourth fucking down, you HAVE to get a first down to keep even a glimmer of hope for the game, and you try to run for 7-8 yards after what looked like a one look read?? And you don't even come close to making it, AND NOW you go for the give up slide?? That's the only time you go for a superman gotta have it Manziel special dive.

    Actually, no don't dive at all... instead find Gary or Benji where ever they are behind the sticks and throw it up for grabs.... Doesn't matter if they are triple covered, it's 4th down, who gives a shit if they pick it. Give yourself a freaking chance... Dude killed to many brain cells drinking.

    This.

    This is not a Pro Josh thread.

    It is a I have seen enough of Johnny thread.

    That's my gut.

    Cut bait and move on

    Zombo

  • If I granted you a wish, and you could QB the Browns for one drive ... even if it is the end of a blowout loss ... are you sliding short on 4th and 6 to protect yourself?

    No, you are not, and you have probably never had your girlfriend tell cops that you beat her either.

    He's not right for us, let us see what Davis has.

    Z

  • Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

  • Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    @walterwhite said:

    Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    Because you're a football player and you should always be giving 100% effort. I'm watching Phil Rivers still giving 100% right now in a game that's been over since the 2nd quarter.

  • If I granted you a wish, and you could QB the Browns for one drive ... even if it is the end of a blowout loss ... are you sliding short on 4th and 6 to protect yourself?

    No, you are not, and you have probably never had your girlfriend tell cops that you beat her either.

    He's not right for us, let us see what Davis has.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    If I granted you a wish, and you could QB the Browns for one drive ... even if it is the end of a blowout loss ... are you sliding short on 4th and 6 to protect yourself?

    No, you are not, and you have probably never had your girlfriend tell cops that you beat her either.

    He's not right for us, let us see what Davis has.

    Z

    Z- you live to fight another day- the game was over. It was over at halftime. The Browns needed to play error free ball, and they stunk. 3 holding penalties and one illegal proceedure on ONE drive are you kidding me?. Ask Tour- McCown holds on to the ball too freaking long.

    So, McCown sucks, Manziel sucks, let's bring in the third stringer- that's the ticket to the #1 overall pick.

  • Zombo said:

    If I granted you a wish, and you could QB the Browns for one drive ... even if it is the end of a blowout loss ... are you sliding short on 4th and 6 to protect yourself?

    No, you are not, and you have probably never had your girlfriend tell cops that you beat her either.

    He's not right for us, let us see what Davis has.

    Z

    Z- you live to fight another day- the game was over. It was over at halftime. The Browns needed to play error free ball, and they stunk. 3 holding penalties and one illegal proceedure on ONE drive are you kidding me?. Ask Tour- McCown holds on to the ball too freaking long.

    So, McCown sucks, Manziel sucks, let's bring in the third stringer- that's the ticket to the #1 overall pick.

    @hoorta said:

    Z- you live to fight another day- the game was over. It was over at halftime.

    Game wasn't over at halftime...that's crazy.

  • Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    @walterwhite said:

    Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    Like next week?

  • Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    @walterwhite said:

    Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    Because you are bad ass who lives every moment for your teammates.

    Sipe takes the hit. Josh takes the hit. Connor Shaw takes the hit. Tom Brady takes the hit.

    Manziel thinks about Manziel.

    Z

  • @hoorta said:

    Z- you live to fight another day- the game was over. It was over at halftime.

    Game wasn't over at halftime...that's crazy.

    @mark-o said:

    Game wasn't over at halftime...that's crazy.

    I was there, Mark- Pettine better be careful- the team QUIT. Those 2 turnovers set the table. You could just tell- the Browns weren't winning.