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  • It's concerning that Tashaun Gipson is hurt. I wonder how hurt he is?

    I will say it again: Play the Rookies now you have nothing to lose!

  • The team is a full or gutless quitters outside of Brandige. They have no passion. No fire. No energy. They don't even care.

  • Why don't we just merge this thread with the other piss & moan threads?

    @canton-dawg said:

    Why don't we just merge this thread with the other piss & moan threads?

    Good Idea...

    Merged...

  • Why don't we just merge this thread with the other piss & moan threads?

    @canton-dawg said:

    Why don't we just merge this thread with the other piss & moan threads?

    another guy who's sunshine and optimism over the 5-11 record
  • @canton-dawg said:

    Why don't we just merge this thread with the other piss & moan threads?

    another guy who's sunshine and optimism over the 5-11 record

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    another guy who's sunshine and optimism over the 5-11 record

    Some people just have a different way of handling things that they have no control over. Some like to just come here and bitch and piss and moan over and over again and offer no solutions. Just loving the attention of being negative peckerheads.

  • @browns_fucking_rule said:

    After today I have to stop supporting Pettine... This team has some serious weaknesses but with a good staff I guarantee they would be playing much better. This team has worlds more talent than the 99 team and yet barely plays much better. After watching Pettine bend over willingly as the refs call tick-tack penalties and not even have the balls to let the refs know how you feel. Then on the last turnover, to not even challenge the call or say anything about the facemask to mccown is just pussy... I swear when they showed Petting I thought he was going to cry. The team needs a coach who is willing to stand up for the them. All those players hanging their heads in the 3rd quarter is also an embarrassment... this is a reflection of their head coach.

    On the 15 yard TD run by Gurley, Pettine threw his headset and was in the ear of the blind ref. Hell Ray Charles could've seen the hold on that play.

    @canton-dawg said:

    On the 15 yard TD run by Gurley, Pettine threw his headset and was in the ear of the blind ref. Hell Ray Charles could've seen the hold on that play.

    no no no no no...he threw his headset because his wife was on the other end and told him the lasagna burned in the oven because she fell asleep watching his team....

  • @canton-dawg said:

    On the 15 yard TD run by Gurley, Pettine threw his headset and was in the ear of the blind ref. Hell Ray Charles could've seen the hold on that play.

    no no no no no...he threw his headset because his wife was on the other end and told him the lasagna burned in the oven because she fell asleep watching his team....

    @browns52 said:

    no no no no no...he threw his headset because his wife was on the other end and told him the lasagna burned in the oven because she fell asleep watching his team....

    hard to believe you don't have your own cable show with witty writing like that..

  • Im not even mad. I know they're going to lose when I get up on Sunday. It's when they show a spark that's upsetting because you know it'll be ruthlessly snuffed out not by the opponent but by our own ineptitude. This is browns football and browns fans to a fucking T

  • It's like we get excited in this town for exactly 2-3 weeks a year selling our hopes and dreams on a hopeful season, but around this team each year the dreams come crashing down like a tons of bricks on our heads. Then we have to wait another 50 weeks and start the very short cycle over again.

    Doesn't matter how we lose the season, whether it by our defense, or offense, or QB or WRs, or whatever, this team WILL create a losing atmoshere, some how some way.

    LOL at this pathetic franchise, 2-3 weeks a year, thats all we get.

    Cleveland BTFO.

    @soju said:

    It's like we get excited in this town for exactly 2-3 weeks a year selling our hopes and dreams on a hopeful season, but around this team each year the dreams come crashing down like a tons of bricks on our heads. Then we have to wait another 50 weeks and start the very short cycle over again.

    Doesn't matter how we lose the season, whether it by our defense, or offense, or QB or WRs, or whatever, this team WILL create a losing atmoshere, some how some way.

    LOL at this pathetic franchise, 2-3 weeks a year, thats all we get.

    Cleveland BTFO.

    what really gripes me and you are right, it seems like the season is over by week 6 but we were 7-4 last yr after 11 games and lost the last 5. We now lost 5 out of the first 7 and really, i have a hard time seeing this circus winning another game or two. We are back to a complete downward spiral that could see more of the same shit that usually happens. That being the season is over after the first few weeks. what the fuck happened. i truly believe pettine is very close to being on the hot seat...If we lose the rest of the games, which is quite possible, i believe he is toast..

  • Look I'm not on the fire Pettine bandwagon, but it's fair criticism to say a few things about him.

    - A TON of the penalties were discipline related. There's a decent level of coaching responsibility for that.

    -He makes some head scratching decisions with timeouts and late game situations that just aren't good.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Look I'm not on the fire Pettine bandwagon, but it's fair criticism to say a few things about him.

    - A TON of the penalties were discipline related. There's a decent level of coaching responsibility for that.

    -He makes some head scratching decisions with timeouts and late game situations that just aren't good.

    it's all coach releated...I think every olineman was called for a false start...wtf...are you kidding me... oh wait, that was the refs fault for calling those penalties . right?

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Look I'm not on the fire Pettine bandwagon, but it's fair criticism to say a few things about him.

    - A TON of the penalties were discipline related. There's a decent level of coaching responsibility for that.

    -He makes some head scratching decisions with timeouts and late game situations that just aren't good.

    it's all coach releated...I think every olineman was called for a false start...wtf...are you kidding me... oh wait, that was the refs fault for calling those penalties . right?

    @browns52 said:

    it's all coach releated...I think every olineman was called for a false start...wtf...are you kidding me... oh wait, that was the refs fault for calling those penalties . right?

    Coaches relay discipline in players to lessen discipline related plays like false starts, that's literally coaching 101. Might be on the O-line coach some too and obviously the players but coaches bear responsibility for that.

  • Coaches under pettine are sub par. Position coaches instill the basics not pettine

  • Am I the only one who thinked the defense looked best this week.

  • They played better.

  • The greatest defensive effort I've seen from the Browns in recent years was last year vs. the Colts. We found a fucking way to lose that game too.

  • Am I the only one who thinked the defense looked best this week.

    @bbedward said:

    Am I the only one who thinked the defense looked best this week.

    I agree but then again the Rams have the worst offense in the league.
  • @soju said:

    It's like we get excited in this town for exactly 2-3 weeks a year selling our hopes and dreams on a hopeful season, but around this team each year the dreams come crashing down like a tons of bricks on our heads. Then we have to wait another 50 weeks and start the very short cycle over again.

    Doesn't matter how we lose the season, whether it by our defense, or offense, or QB or WRs, or whatever, this team WILL create a losing atmoshere, some how some way.

    LOL at this pathetic franchise, 2-3 weeks a year, thats all we get.

    Cleveland BTFO.

    what really gripes me and you are right, it seems like the season is over by week 6 but we were 7-4 last yr after 11 games and lost the last 5. We now lost 5 out of the first 7 and really, i have a hard time seeing this circus winning another game or two. We are back to a complete downward spiral that could see more of the same shit that usually happens. That being the season is over after the first few weeks. what the fuck happened. i truly believe pettine is very close to being on the hot seat...If we lose the rest of the games, which is quite possible, i believe he is toast..

    @browns52 said:

    We are back to a complete downward spiral that could see more of the same shit that usually happens. That being the season is over after the first few weeks. what the fuck happened.

    What the fuck happened:

    • constant shuffling of defensive players, no continuity
    • somehow our "blue chip" offensive line filled with #1 & #2 picks cannot run block
    • ridiculous amount of penalties
    • inability to win at home
    • poor drafting
    • can't stop anybody last 2 minutes of the half or 4th quarter

    I'm sure there's more....it's almost impossible to be this bad for so long, and I was truly optimistic about this season.

  • I swear on a lot of our defensive plays second half we weren't lined up in time, everyone pointing to each other as the ball is snapped

    @londonbrown said:

    I swear on a lot of our defensive plays second half we weren't lined up in time, everyone pointing to each other as the ball is snapped

    They were playing the "Chineese Fire Drill" defense. you didn't see the Rams doing that- ONeil is so into situational defense- he out thinks himself. Running players in and out of the game.

    VesnaKociper said:

    Dude, are you recovering from hallucinogenic drugs? "What happens to this franchise if we fie Pettine?" For fuck's sake dude, this is a 4 - 12 team. D'uh..... NOTHING bad can happen when you are already a shit team. Seriously, the mental masturbation and idiot fiction that goes on in the minds of some fans is bizarre.

    Are you actually under the belief that the Browns are a work in progress; that a system is being built; that there is some foundation that we must allow to solidify?

    Forrest, listen up, it doesn't take years for a team to come out and be good at the basics, blocking, tackling, catching, passing, and not drawing penalties. A coach needs ONE (1) preseason to take care of that basic bullshit. Pettine is Romeo Crennell.

    When you have a winner.............. THEN.... there is impact in firing him. But when you have shit... and by all measures, Pettine IS shit..... you can't lose by making a change. There is absolutely no downside to firing this asshole.

    Frankly- this was a total shit show today Tom. Three holding penalties and a illegal proceedure on ONE drive? Pettine should have reamed the losers a good one when they came off the field.

    @baconhound said:

    Oh wait, Urban Meyer

    I'll take Jim Tressell. My prediction- at this rate, we're going to be lucky to win two more games. The team has regressed in everty concievable way.

    Why did we lose today? As I said earlier- not only was "The Curse" in attendance- the Browns wore those brown pants- they're bad luck- they almost always lose when they wear them. So burn the damn things .

  • I want a guy that is FIRE AND BRIMSTONE.

    Since 1999 we have had 1 pussy after another

    Get a guy that breathes fire for once

  • Coaches under pettine are sub par. Position coaches instill the basics not pettine

    @lbc-mike said:

    Coaches under pettine are sub par. Position coaches instill the basics not pettine

    so who hires the position coaches...isn't it usually the hc...they always want their guys.