Obamao's commie INJustice dept KGB goes after...conservative groups
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some leftwing groups are hate groups,...
some black groups are hate groups.....
some muslim groups are hate groups....
except Obamao's INJustice dept doesn't gain politically, by
being honest...
so they are going after conservative, religious groups with the rationalization cherrypicked like
you just did.
and that, is after they found no wrong by Lerner and the IRS...for doing the exact same harrassment
that they are now going to do.
Our country is going in a dangerous direction - a dem/liberal/leftist/marxist gov declaring war on
all political opposition.
It's what they do, historically, and history tends to repeat itself.
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Some of them probably are hate groups - being Christian doesn't make you immune to being hateful and dangerous.
I could imagine a bunch of southern toothless Christians sitting in a room talking about "lynch dem gays"
(I'm not saying all Christians are toothless and violent* - if I didn't specify the PC woulda called me prejudice)
Some of them probably are hate groups - being Christian doesn't make you immune to being hateful and dangerous.
I could imagine a bunch of southern toothless Christians sitting in a room talking about "lynch dem gays"
(I'm not saying all Christians are toothless and violent* - if I didn't specify the PC woulda called me prejudice)
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that none of them are. The very basis of Christianity is love thy neighbor, turn the other cheek do unto others etc etc etc but most importantly accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior and you will have eternal life.
Calling yourself a Christian and exhibiting all these types of bad behavior means that you are not a Christian purely by definition. No more than Caitlin Jenner is a woman no matter what she calls herself.
WSS
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But what if they call themselves Christian?
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What if I call myself a Martian?But what if they call themselves Christian?
Or a kangaroo?
WSS
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But, as we have seen posted on here, there are passages in the bible that call for violence. The hypothetical group above is just interpreting the bible in a way you (and others) disagree with. But that group stills sees themselves as following Christianity. Who are you to tell them they aren't Christian?
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I'm the guy that realizes when Christianity begin which is with the New Covenant.
(quite possibly even later than that, after His crucifixion)
What I am NOT is is an evangelistic fundamentalist zealot. What I am also not is a bitter little anti Christian activist.
Christianity refers to Jesus Christ.
WSS
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stop and think what we've posted in the past, woodpecker.
The New Testament.
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Well I imagine that there are many people that claim to be Christians, but aren't. And for reasons other than violence.
What would Jesus say about war? Our current state of health care compared to other developed countries? Our second class treatment of different minorities over the decades?
But basically you're saying that just because people claim to be something, doesn't mean they are. And even though there are many ways to interpret religious books, there apparently is a "right way".
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Well I imagine that there are many people that claim to be Christians, but aren't. And for reasons other than violence.
What would Jesus say about war? Our current state of health care compared to other developed countries? Our second class treatment of different minorities over the decades?
But basically you're saying that just because people claim to be something, doesn't mean they are. And even though there are many ways to interpret religious books, there apparently is a "right way".
But basically you're saying that just because people claim to be something, doesn't mean they are. And even though there are many ways to interpret religious books, there apparently is a "right way".
There's many ways to interpret a physics book too, at least if your name is Ben Carson.
People have fought for thousands of years over what the correct interpretation/belief etc. is. Seems like we'll never get past it.
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physics? that makes no sense. But you got another emotional knee jerk in at Carson.
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physics? that makes no sense. But you got another emotional knee jerk in at Carson.
I thought it was a good opportunity to get a shot in, but Carson has a different interpretation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics than what's presented in the textbooks, because it doesn't fit his beliefs.
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Well I imagine that there are many people that claim to be Christians, but aren't. And for reasons other than violence.
What would Jesus say about war? Our current state of health care compared to other developed countries? Our second class treatment of different minorities over the decades?
But basically you're saying that just because people claim to be something, doesn't mean they are. And even though there are many ways to interpret religious books, there apparently is a "right way".
Well I imagine that there are many people that claim to be Christians, but aren't. And for reasons other than violence.
What would Jesus say about war? Our current state of health care compared to other developed countries? Our second class treatment of different minorities over the decades?
But basically you're saying that just because people claim to be something, doesn't mean they are. And even though there are many ways to interpret religious books, there apparently is a "right way".
Yes there is. I just called my friend a fundamentalist pastor and talk for a while about this. It's pretty simple, Jesus implored his followers to be christ-like.
He pointed out punishment or damnation for our sins will come at judgment time.
That is part of the new will of God as opposed to the old will, the Old Testament.
He believes that homosexuality is a sin but that sin will be judged by God. Is that lying, cheating, stealing, fornicating and adultery are also sins and carry the same penalties as homosexuality. These sins can be forgiven but only through the blood of Christ.
That means if you have fucked around on your wife or cheated on your taxes or lied to your boss. Or coveted your neighbor's wife or his house or his car.
As for your question, I would assume Jesus would want us to help the poor who could not help themselves. He would probably expect those who could to do so.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by second class citizens but I believe Jesus said to give unto Caesar what is Caesar's. That means he was not political and probably wouldn't make a ruling on gay marriage if that's what you want.
In the Old Testament God called for immediate punishment but after the New Covenant when we were all given a path toward salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ. Not so in the Old Testament.
An example of giving unto Caesar what is Caesar's the pastor told me he been working with a convicted murderer who will spend the rest of his life in prison. If he accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior repents his sins he will be clean in the eyes of the Lord and will have salvation. The prison sentence is the law of man. That he has to deal with on earth.
WSS
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Alright, so a few comments:
Taking the assumption that Jesus believes homosexuality is a sin, based on your posts, people have no right to protest it. Making a law against something because it is a sin is no basis at all, because God will judge the gays. Basically it removes all "gays is sin" arguments from the anti gay marriage crowd (not that they were good arguments to begin with).
On healthcare, unless you're a complete ass that thinks every person on hard times is directly their own doing, it sounds like you're saying Jesus would want us to help them out.
The last point doesn't have to be about gays. What about black people and the history of racism in this country? Go back far enough and there were groups that thought blacks were a lesser race, but called themselves Christian. Sounds like they weren't Christian.
I just find the whole thing funny. Often politically conservative people use Jesus as a measuring stick, when Jesus seems like he'd be a pretty liberal dude. Of course, if you pick and choose your passages, and interpret how you see fit, you can make him be whatever.
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physics? that makes no sense. But you got another emotional knee jerk in at Carson.
I thought it was a good opportunity to get a shot in, but Carson has a different interpretation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics than what's presented in the textbooks, because it doesn't fit his beliefs.
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Woodpecker - you did a nice, rare job of posting more than one sentence...
but it was baloney. It takes away the "all gays is sin"....
that's laughable. You don't understand what you are trying to argue against,
and your arguments are suffering badly.
When the Bible says "Judge not lest ye be judged"... well, that refers to
salvation.
God created Adam and EVE. Note that "Eve" is a female name.
Man-Woman. So, understanding that marriage is between a man and a woman....
anything else is a perversion.
But, it isn't up to us to say or believe that all gays go to hell. We aren't judges on that.
However, it's one thing to live and let live, even though some pair up pervertedly...
and another to demand that perversion be accepted, and complied with, by
those who abhor the perversion.
Try doing this in order:
Learn...
Think...
Post.
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I thought it was a good opportunity to get a shot in, but Carson has a different interpretation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics than what's presented in the textbooks, because it doesn't fit his beliefs. Edward
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What textbooks? From Wikipedia
(I had to google that one)
In thermodynamics, entropy (usual symbol S) is a measure of the number of specific ways in which athermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly understood as a measure of disorder.
However, irreversible processes increase the combined entropy of the system and its environment.
Understanding the role of thermodynamic entropy in various processes requires an understanding of how and why that information changes as the system evolves from its initial to its final condition. It is often said that entropy is an expression of the disorder, or randomness of a system, or of our lack of information about it
and from Factcheck.org
"Moving outward to the solar system scale, the situation is the same. The increasing entropy is not violated by the formation of planets, stars and comets due to arrive in 70 years. All the factors that go into the formation of these celestial bodies work to increase disorder rather than decrease it. As Greene told us: “The formation of a star is an entropically increasing phenomenon. It is not decreasing the amount of disorder, it is increasing the amount of disorder, even though it looks so darn ordered relative to, say, the swirling gas cloud from which it emerged.”
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So, according to Factcheck again... Ben Carson said this:
Carson, Sept. 22: Now you’re saying, there’s a Big Bang, a big explosion, and our solar system and our universe come into perfect alignment. Now I said you also believe in the second law of thermodynamics, entropy, right? “Yeah.” And I said, that states that things move toward a state of disorganization, right? “Yeah.” I said, so, how is there a Big Bang and instead of things moving toward disorganization they become perfectly organized to the point where we can predict 70 years hence when a comet is coming. How does that work? “Well. We don’t understand everything.”
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I don't really wanna get into it, but the increasing entropy is actually measurable through cosmic microwave background radiation
Basically the big bang theory does not violate the laws of physics as we know them - but Ben Carson fabricates scientific laws because the big bang theory disagrees with his faith.
Ben Carson is a very talented and smart guy for sure, but being talented in one field doesn't directly translate to many other fields - where he's clearly lacking a bit.
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So, the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics deals with random disorder.
So, Greene says the formation of a star increases the disorder.
So, again, given the magnificent order of the universe, the fascinating
miracle of the existence of biological life...
the human brain....
that is the opposite of "random" and "disorder".
So, how does that incredible order of the universe, and
all life on our planet, including the amazing human brain.....
happen, given the INCREASE or STABILITY of disorder?
Think about that. And yes, it contradicts the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.
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No, no, no. you are missing the point. Using the big bang theory to explain, via random disorder...
the existence of life on earth, and the workings of the universe, and the human brain...
is a contradiction.
Given the law that says the disorder stays the same, or INCREASES in disorder...
makes our existence impossible.
there is no fabrication of laws. He just knows what he's talking about,
and you don't. That's all...
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