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  • I think most people are anti late term abortion

  • I think most people are anti late term abortion

    @mld-woody said:

    I think most people are anti late term abortion

    So most people are religious bigots or what?

    WSS

  • Oh, please tell me where you got that connection...

  • Oh, please tell me where you got that connection...

    @mld-woody said:

    Oh, please tell me where you got that connection...

    You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.

    If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?

    They are fine with you?

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Oh, please tell me where you got that connection...

    You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.

    If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?

    They are fine with you?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.

    If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?

    They are fine with you?

    WSS

    Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...

    I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.

    If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.

    A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).

  • @westside-steve said:

    You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.

    If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?

    They are fine with you?

    WSS

    Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...

    I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.

    If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.

    A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).

    @mld-woody said:

    Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...

    I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.

    If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.

    A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).

  • @mld-woody said:

    Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...

    I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.

    If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.

    A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).

    @westside-steve said:

    @mld-woody said:

    Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...

    I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.

    If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.

    A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).

    So tell me how one is murder and one 4 days earlier, or six weeks earlier or whatever, is having a mole removed?

    WSS

  • Because the world doesn't exist in absolutes

    though some posters on here would make you think it does...

  • @calfoxwc said:

    he said he did not believe in hammering other people with his convictions.

    But now he is doing that?

    I'm not an Obama supporter, though - I just don't like the idea of a theocratic leadership and that's how I see people like Carson/Huckabee.

    @bbedward said:

    But now he is doing that?

    I'm not an Obama supporter, though - I just don't like the idea of a theocratic leadership and that's how I see people like Carson/Huckabee.

    Again and again and again and again because you just don't get it: there are three branches of government -checks and balances (maybe you've heard of it?) To prevent any given presidents personal beliefs from becoming law. Electing ben carson does not mean you'll be living in a theocracy. Don't be so fucking stupid.
  • @bbedward said:

    But now he is doing that?

    I'm not an Obama supporter, though - I just don't like the idea of a theocratic leadership and that's how I see people like Carson/Huckabee.

    Again and again and again and again because you just don't get it: there are three branches of government -checks and balances (maybe you've heard of it?) To prevent any given presidents personal beliefs from becoming law. Electing ben carson does not mean you'll be living in a theocracy. Don't be so fucking stupid.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Again and again and again and again because you just don't get it: there see three branches of government -checks and balances (maybe you've heard of it?) To prevent any given presidents personal beliefs from becoming law. Electing ben carson does not mean you'll be living in a theocracy. Don't be so fucking stupid.

    Doesn't mean I would want to elect a guy who would prefer a theocratic type of leadership. But there's other issues I have with Dr. Carson like his lack of understanding of foreign policy and how the economy works.

    I know there's checks and balances and he could surround himself with brilliant people - but it'd probably be preferable to have the president to be a guy who has a basic understanding of how the world works and doesn't believe that arming the Jews would have prevented the holocaust.

    Don't make any mistake I'll be voting for him if he gets the nomination against Clinton though, but he's not my favorite to win the nomination.

  • No, Cysko has a point. Despite Obamao's work to the contrary - we have the

    three branches of gov.

    And, you say you disagree about Carson's point, that if the Jews had had guns, the nazis

    wouldn't have been able to simply round them all up and murder them in gas chambers.

    well, ask yourself about the WWII resistance groups. History is firmly on the side of

    Caron's point.

    Don't be like woodypeckerhead, Chris and Cleve - don't adopt emotional knee jerks about

    disagreeing with him - know what he is really saying, and read up on what he said.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistance_during_World_War_II

  • as to your point about Carson and his lack of foriegn policy exposure...

    fair point.

    But read up on what he says about that:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/carson-defends-lack-of-foreign-policy-knowledge-nobody-knows-everything/

  • as to your point about Carson and his lack of foriegn policy exposure...

    fair point.

    But read up on what he says about that:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/carson-defends-lack-of-foreign-policy-knowledge-nobody-knows-everything/

    @calfoxwc said:

    as to your point about Carson and his lack of foriegn policy exposure...

    fair point.

    But read up on what he says about that:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/carson-defends-lack-of-foreign-policy-knowledge-nobody-knows-everything/

    Yea nobody knows everything, but he takes it a step further by knowing basically nothing (outside of brain surgery, I guess)

    - Darwin's theory is a creation of satan

    - Big bang theory is not real because it violates thermodynamics

    - Women who get abortions are like slaveholders

    - Obamacare is worst thing to happen in US since slavery

    - Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 election

    - Congress should remove judges who vote for marriage equality

    - Obama is purposely keeping the economy from doing well to keep people on welfare

    - There is no such thing as war crimes

    - Prison turns people gay, therefore being gay is a choice

    - Muslims should be disqualified from being president

    - Colleges should be monitored for extreme political bias

    This line of thinking is a dangerous thing.

    Also the Jews were a big time minority in WW2 Germany at the time - they wouldn't have been able to resist the Nazi army at the time. Any inch of resistance and the army would have torched your entire home I'm sure.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    as to your point about Carson and his lack of foriegn policy exposure...

    fair point.

    But read up on what he says about that:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/carson-defends-lack-of-foreign-policy-knowledge-nobody-knows-everything/

    Yea nobody knows everything, but he takes it a step further by knowing basically nothing (outside of brain surgery, I guess)

    - Darwin's theory is a creation of satan

    - Big bang theory is not real because it violates thermodynamics

    - Women who get abortions are like slaveholders

    - Obamacare is worst thing to happen in US since slavery

    - Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 election

    - Congress should remove judges who vote for marriage equality

    - Obama is purposely keeping the economy from doing well to keep people on welfare

    - There is no such thing as war crimes

    - Prison turns people gay, therefore being gay is a choice

    - Muslims should be disqualified from being president

    - Colleges should be monitored for extreme political bias

    This line of thinking is a dangerous thing.

    Also the Jews were a big time minority in WW2 Germany at the time - they wouldn't have been able to resist the Nazi army at the time. Any inch of resistance and the army would have torched your entire home I'm sure.

    @bbedward said:

    Yea nobody knows everything, but he takes it a step further by knowing basically nothing (outside of brain surgery, I guess)

    - Darwin's theory is a creation of satan

    - Big bang theory is not real because it violates thermodynamics

    - Women who get abortions are like slaveholders

    - Obamacare is worst thing to happen in US since slavery

    - Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 election

    - Congress should remove judges who vote for marriage equality

    - Obama is purposely keeping the economy from doing well to keep people on welfare

    - There is no such thing as war crimes

    - Prison turns people gay, therefore being gay is a choice

    - Muslims should be disqualified from being president

    - Colleges should be monitored for extreme political bias

    This line of thinking is a dangerous thing.

    Stop being so emotional!

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Again and again and again and again because you just don't get it: there see three branches of government -checks and balances (maybe you've heard of it?) To prevent any given presidents personal beliefs from becoming law. Electing ben carson does not mean you'll be living in a theocracy. Don't be so fucking stupid.

    Doesn't mean I would want to elect a guy who would prefer a theocratic type of leadership. But there's other issues I have with Dr. Carson like his lack of understanding of foreign policy and how the economy works.

    I know there's checks and balances and he could surround himself with brilliant people - but it'd probably be preferable to have the president to be a guy who has a basic understanding of how the world works and doesn't believe that arming the Jews would have prevented the holocaust.

    Don't make any mistake I'll be voting for him if he gets the nomination against Clinton though, but he's not my favorite to win the nomination.

    @bbedward said:

    Doesn't mean I would want to elect a guy who would prefer a theocratic type of leadership. But there's other issues I have with Dr. Carson like his lack of understanding of foreign policy and how the economy works.

    I know there's checks and balances and he could surround himself with brilliant people - but it'd probably be preferable to have the president to be a guy who has a basic understanding of how the world works and doesn't believe that arming the Jews would have prevented the holocaust.

    Don't make any mistake I'll be voting for him if he gets the nomination against Clinton though, but he's not my favorite to win the nomination.

    Arming the Jews would certainly not have helped enable the Holocaust. Armed insurrections work. History is full of them.

  • I'm glad those who fought the world power British army to force

    our independence....

    weren't giveup sissies who think "well, we'll never win, so we may as well

    not even try"

    You didn't read the stuff about the resistance forces during WWII.

    Liberal sissies hate information that they don't get to cherrypick for political expediency.

    So, Edward, who WOULD you vote for? Because most of us can ascribe phoney conclusions about

    them, too, like you did with Ben Carson.

  • "weren't giveup sissies who think "well, we'll never win, so we may as well not even try"

    Sounds like steve on most issues 😉

  • I'm glad those who fought the world power British army to force

    our independence....

    weren't giveup sissies who think "well, we'll never win, so we may as well

    not even try"

    You didn't read the stuff about the resistance forces during WWII.

    Liberal sissies hate information that they don't get to cherrypick for political expediency.

    So, Edward, who WOULD you vote for? Because most of us can ascribe phoney conclusions about

    them, too, like you did with Ben Carson.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I'm glad those who fought the world power British army to force

    our independence....

    weren't giveup sissies who think "well, we'll never win, so we may as well

    not even try"

    You didn't read the stuff about the resistance forces during WWII.

    Liberal sissies hate information that they don't get to cherrypick for political expediency.

    So, Edward, who WOULD you vote for? Because most of us can ascribe phoney conclusions about

    them, too, like you did with Ben Carson.

    I cite things he says and supposedly believes, not phoney conclusions. The large minorities were the ones targeted including the Jews - giving them all guns wouldn't have overthrown the majority of nazi germany but probably would have been quicker genocide.

    I'm not sure I'll vote in the primary yet, but I align closest to Rand Paul on the issues who has no chance of winning. I would vote for Trump over Carson though.

  • I'm glad those who fought the world power British army to force

    our independence....

    weren't giveup sissies who think "well, we'll never win, so we may as well

    not even try"

    You didn't read the stuff about the resistance forces during WWII.

    Liberal sissies hate information that they don't get to cherrypick for political expediency.

    So, Edward, who WOULD you vote for? Because most of us can ascribe phoney conclusions about

    them, too, like you did with Ben Carson.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I'm glad those who fought the world power British army to force

    our independence....

    and yet we don't concede others their independence unless we approve of it huh?

  • "weren't giveup sissies who think "well, we'll never win, so we may as well not even try"

    Sounds like steve on most issues 😉

    @gftchris said:

    "weren't giveup sissies who think "well, we'll never win, so we may as well not even try"

    Sounds like steve on most issues 😉

    aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh