How excellent is Ben Carson to run for pres?
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he said he did not believe in hammering other people with his convictions.
You are putting stuff into the discussion that is just baloney...
How long should I wait for you to criticize obamao for his flipflop on the 2nd amendment?
ditto, on our debt, which he previously said was unpatriotic of Bush to have one, and his is
going to be about 20 trillion by the time he leaves office?
Or, you can invent disparaging barbs at Carson, because he is conservative...
Wow. All this minute detail analysis and jumping to negative conclusions,....
when all these last 7 years and before...about ObaMao....
nothin. Funny how that works....
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You don't have to be an evangelist to oppose abortion. Even our old friend heck, who is as far left is anyone I know, was anti late term abortion.
WSS
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I think most people are anti late term abortion
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I think most people are anti late term abortion
So most people are religious bigots or what?
WSS
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Oh, please tell me where you got that connection...
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Oh, please tell me where you got that connection...
You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.
If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?
They are fine with you?
WSS
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Oh, please tell me where you got that connection...
You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.
If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?
They are fine with you?
WSS
You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.
If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?
They are fine with you?
WSS
Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...
I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.
If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.
A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).
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You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.
If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?
They are fine with you?
WSS
Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...
I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.
If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.
A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).
Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...
I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.
If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.
A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).
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Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...
I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.
If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.
A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).
So tell me how one is murder and one 4 days earlier, or six weeks earlier or whatever, is having a mole removed?Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...
I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.
If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.
A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).
WSS
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Because the world doesn't exist in absolutes
though some posters on here would make you think it does...
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Again and again and again and again because you just don't get it: there are three branches of government -checks and balances (maybe you've heard of it?) To prevent any given presidents personal beliefs from becoming law. Electing ben carson does not mean you'll be living in a theocracy. Don't be so fucking stupid.But now he is doing that?
I'm not an Obama supporter, though - I just don't like the idea of a theocratic leadership and that's how I see people like Carson/Huckabee.
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Again and again and again and again because you just don't get it: there are three branches of government -checks and balances (maybe you've heard of it?) To prevent any given presidents personal beliefs from becoming law. Electing ben carson does not mean you'll be living in a theocracy. Don't be so fucking stupid.But now he is doing that?
I'm not an Obama supporter, though - I just don't like the idea of a theocratic leadership and that's how I see people like Carson/Huckabee.
Doesn't mean I would want to elect a guy who would prefer a theocratic type of leadership. But there's other issues I have with Dr. Carson like his lack of understanding of foreign policy and how the economy works.Again and again and again and again because you just don't get it: there see three branches of government -checks and balances (maybe you've heard of it?) To prevent any given presidents personal beliefs from becoming law. Electing ben carson does not mean you'll be living in a theocracy. Don't be so fucking stupid.
I know there's checks and balances and he could surround himself with brilliant people - but it'd probably be preferable to have the president to be a guy who has a basic understanding of how the world works and doesn't believe that arming the Jews would have prevented the holocaust.
Don't make any mistake I'll be voting for him if he gets the nomination against Clinton though, but he's not my favorite to win the nomination.
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No, Cysko has a point. Despite Obamao's work to the contrary - we have the
three branches of gov.
And, you say you disagree about Carson's point, that if the Jews had had guns, the nazis
wouldn't have been able to simply round them all up and murder them in gas chambers.
well, ask yourself about the WWII resistance groups. History is firmly on the side of
Caron's point.
Don't be like woodypeckerhead, Chris and Cleve - don't adopt emotional knee jerks about
disagreeing with him - know what he is really saying, and read up on what he said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistance_during_World_War_II
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as to your point about Carson and his lack of foriegn policy exposure...
fair point.
But read up on what he says about that:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/carson-defends-lack-of-foreign-policy-knowledge-nobody-knows-everything/
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as to your point about Carson and his lack of foriegn policy exposure...
fair point.
But read up on what he says about that:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/carson-defends-lack-of-foreign-policy-knowledge-nobody-knows-everything/
as to your point about Carson and his lack of foriegn policy exposure...
fair point.
But read up on what he says about that:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/carson-defends-lack-of-foreign-policy-knowledge-nobody-knows-everything/
Yea nobody knows everything, but he takes it a step further by knowing basically nothing (outside of brain surgery, I guess)
- Darwin's theory is a creation of satan
- Big bang theory is not real because it violates thermodynamics
- Women who get abortions are like slaveholders
- Obamacare is worst thing to happen in US since slavery
- Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 election
- Congress should remove judges who vote for marriage equality
- Obama is purposely keeping the economy from doing well to keep people on welfare
- There is no such thing as war crimes
- Prison turns people gay, therefore being gay is a choice
- Muslims should be disqualified from being president
- Colleges should be monitored for extreme political bias
This line of thinking is a dangerous thing.
Also the Jews were a big time minority in WW2 Germany at the time - they wouldn't have been able to resist the Nazi army at the time. Any inch of resistance and the army would have torched your entire home I'm sure.
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as to your point about Carson and his lack of foriegn policy exposure...
fair point.
But read up on what he says about that:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/carson-defends-lack-of-foreign-policy-knowledge-nobody-knows-everything/
Yea nobody knows everything, but he takes it a step further by knowing basically nothing (outside of brain surgery, I guess)
- Darwin's theory is a creation of satan
- Big bang theory is not real because it violates thermodynamics
- Women who get abortions are like slaveholders
- Obamacare is worst thing to happen in US since slavery
- Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 election
- Congress should remove judges who vote for marriage equality
- Obama is purposely keeping the economy from doing well to keep people on welfare
- There is no such thing as war crimes
- Prison turns people gay, therefore being gay is a choice
- Muslims should be disqualified from being president
- Colleges should be monitored for extreme political bias
This line of thinking is a dangerous thing.
Also the Jews were a big time minority in WW2 Germany at the time - they wouldn't have been able to resist the Nazi army at the time. Any inch of resistance and the army would have torched your entire home I'm sure.
Yea nobody knows everything, but he takes it a step further by knowing basically nothing (outside of brain surgery, I guess)
- Darwin's theory is a creation of satan
- Big bang theory is not real because it violates thermodynamics
- Women who get abortions are like slaveholders
- Obamacare is worst thing to happen in US since slavery
- Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 election
- Congress should remove judges who vote for marriage equality
- Obama is purposely keeping the economy from doing well to keep people on welfare
- There is no such thing as war crimes
- Prison turns people gay, therefore being gay is a choice
- Muslims should be disqualified from being president
- Colleges should be monitored for extreme political bias
This line of thinking is a dangerous thing.
Stop being so emotional!
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Doesn't mean I would want to elect a guy who would prefer a theocratic type of leadership. But there's other issues I have with Dr. Carson like his lack of understanding of foreign policy and how the economy works.Again and again and again and again because you just don't get it: there see three branches of government -checks and balances (maybe you've heard of it?) To prevent any given presidents personal beliefs from becoming law. Electing ben carson does not mean you'll be living in a theocracy. Don't be so fucking stupid.
I know there's checks and balances and he could surround himself with brilliant people - but it'd probably be preferable to have the president to be a guy who has a basic understanding of how the world works and doesn't believe that arming the Jews would have prevented the holocaust.
Don't make any mistake I'll be voting for him if he gets the nomination against Clinton though, but he's not my favorite to win the nomination.
Doesn't mean I would want to elect a guy who would prefer a theocratic type of leadership. But there's other issues I have with Dr. Carson like his lack of understanding of foreign policy and how the economy works.
I know there's checks and balances and he could surround himself with brilliant people - but it'd probably be preferable to have the president to be a guy who has a basic understanding of how the world works and doesn't believe that arming the Jews would have prevented the holocaust.
Don't make any mistake I'll be voting for him if he gets the nomination against Clinton though, but he's not my favorite to win the nomination.
Arming the Jews would certainly not have helped enable the Holocaust. Armed insurrections work. History is full of them.
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I'm glad those who fought the world power British army to force
our independence....
weren't giveup sissies who think "well, we'll never win, so we may as well
not even try"
You didn't read the stuff about the resistance forces during WWII.
Liberal sissies hate information that they don't get to cherrypick for political expediency.
So, Edward, who WOULD you vote for? Because most of us can ascribe phoney conclusions about
them, too, like you did with Ben Carson.
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"weren't giveup sissies who think "well, we'll never win, so we may as well not even try"
Sounds like steve on most issues

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I'm glad those who fought the world power British army to force
our independence....
weren't giveup sissies who think "well, we'll never win, so we may as well
not even try"
You didn't read the stuff about the resistance forces during WWII.
Liberal sissies hate information that they don't get to cherrypick for political expediency.
So, Edward, who WOULD you vote for? Because most of us can ascribe phoney conclusions about
them, too, like you did with Ben Carson.
I'm glad those who fought the world power British army to force
our independence....
weren't giveup sissies who think "well, we'll never win, so we may as well
not even try"
You didn't read the stuff about the resistance forces during WWII.
Liberal sissies hate information that they don't get to cherrypick for political expediency.
So, Edward, who WOULD you vote for? Because most of us can ascribe phoney conclusions about
them, too, like you did with Ben Carson.
I cite things he says and supposedly believes, not phoney conclusions. The large minorities were the ones targeted including the Jews - giving them all guns wouldn't have overthrown the majority of nazi germany but probably would have been quicker genocide.
I'm not sure I'll vote in the primary yet, but I align closest to Rand Paul on the issues who has no chance of winning. I would vote for Trump over Carson though.
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