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How excellent is Ben Carson to run for pres?

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  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Genetic defects are one of the few legitimate reasons to terminate a pregnancy.

    Carson is pretty much against abortion in all cases - even via incest which greatly increases the chances of genetic defects.

    @bbedward said:

    Carson is pretty much against abortion in all cases - even via incest which greatly increases the chances of genetic defects.

    But, you know, if somehow some abortions did happen, he could find a use for the remains in his research...

  • Well, instead of politically dishonest innuendo....

    let's hear Ben Carson's explanation: (I agree with him 100%)

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ben-carson-confusion

  • Well, she will do worse for our country that Obamao has been able to do,

    despite his determination to destroy our stability financially, morally,

    spiritually, and legally.

    and Cleve defends higgardly's corruption by attacking Gowdy's appearance?

    Man...talk about a typical emotional knee-jerk - that is definately one of them.

    Getting back to the subject of the thread -

    Trump said Carson had a lack of energy. I love Carson's sense of humor:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/24/after-donald-trump-calls-him-super-low-energy-ben-carson-pushes-back-with-an-observation-his-rival-cant-make/

    @calfoxwc said:

    Well, she will do worse for our country that Obamao has been able to do,

    despite his determination to destroy our stability financially, morally,

    spiritually, and legally.

    and Cleve defends higgardly's corruption by attacking Gowdy's appearance?

    Man...talk about a typical emotional knee-jerk - that is definately one of them.

    Getting back to the subject of the thread -

    Trump said Carson had a lack of energy. I love Carson's sense of humor:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/24/after-donald-trump-calls-him-super-low-energy-ben-carson-pushes-back-with-an-observation-his-rival-cant-make/

    take a deep breath Cal and go back and read, then tell me where i'm "defending" Hillary? I'm shittng on all of them in case you haven't caught on. But seriously don't act like Gowdy isn't the baby from family guy all grown up, cause you know he is.

  • @bbedward said:

    Carson is pretty much against abortion in all cases - even via incest which greatly increases the chances of genetic defects.

    But, you know, if somehow some abortions did happen, he could find a use for the remains in his research...

    @gftchris said:

    But, you know, if somehow some abortions did happen, he could find a use for the remains in his research...

    hehe, exactly. All these people are vipers, and folk like Cal just haven't caught on yet that they're all two heads of the same coin.

  • BALONEY

    A lot of folks see abortions as being justifiably restricted to certain

    dire situations. And early abortion because the child is very seriously

    deformed...

    as in, VERY EARLY.... I understand that. And the research could help understand

    causes to prevent such deformities in the future.

    What exactly is wrong with that? There is no hypocrisy, tho it fits your agenda to infer it.

  • BALONEY

    A lot of folks see abortions as being justifiably restricted to certain

    dire situations. And early abortion because the child is very seriously

    deformed...

    as in, VERY EARLY.... I understand that. And the research could help understand

    causes to prevent such deformities in the future.

    What exactly is wrong with that? There is no hypocrisy, tho it fits your agenda to infer it.

    @calfoxwc said:

    BALONEY

    A lot of folks see abortions as being justifiably restricted to certain

    dire situations. And early abortion because the child is very seriously

    deformed...

    as in, VERY EARLY.... I understand that. And the research could help understand

    causes to prevent such deformities in the future.

    What exactly is wrong with that? There is no hypocrisy, tho it fits your agenda to infer it.

    It's just odd that he performed research on fetuses and referred people to get abortions, while saying he'd never champion for abortions to be illegal and that life begins when the heart starts beating - not at conception.

    Whereas now he contradicts literally all of that.

    I think he was a great surgeon - one of the best, but otherwise I don't like his qualities to become president...

  • he said he did not believe in hammering other people with his convictions.

    You are putting stuff into the discussion that is just baloney...

    How long should I wait for you to criticize obamao for his flipflop on the 2nd amendment?

    ditto, on our debt, which he previously said was unpatriotic of Bush to have one, and his is

    going to be about 20 trillion by the time he leaves office?

    Or, you can invent disparaging barbs at Carson, because he is conservative...

    Wow. All this minute detail analysis and jumping to negative conclusions,....

    when all these last 7 years and before...about ObaMao....

    nothin. Funny how that works....

  • Breathe.

    Breathe.

  • he said he did not believe in hammering other people with his convictions.

    You are putting stuff into the discussion that is just baloney...

    How long should I wait for you to criticize obamao for his flipflop on the 2nd amendment?

    ditto, on our debt, which he previously said was unpatriotic of Bush to have one, and his is

    going to be about 20 trillion by the time he leaves office?

    Or, you can invent disparaging barbs at Carson, because he is conservative...

    Wow. All this minute detail analysis and jumping to negative conclusions,....

    when all these last 7 years and before...about ObaMao....

    nothin. Funny how that works....

    @calfoxwc said:

    he said he did not believe in hammering other people with his convictions.

    But now he is doing that?

    I'm not an Obama supporter, though - I just don't like the idea of a theocratic leadership and that's how I see people like Carson/Huckabee.

  • You don't have to be an evangelist to oppose abortion. Even our old friend heck, who is as far left is anyone I know, was anti late term abortion.

    WSS

  • I think most people are anti late term abortion

  • I think most people are anti late term abortion

    @mld-woody said:

    I think most people are anti late term abortion

    So most people are religious bigots or what?

    WSS

  • Oh, please tell me where you got that connection...

  • Oh, please tell me where you got that connection...

    @mld-woody said:

    Oh, please tell me where you got that connection...

    You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.

    If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?

    They are fine with you?

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Oh, please tell me where you got that connection...

    You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.

    If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?

    They are fine with you?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.

    If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?

    They are fine with you?

    WSS

    Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...

    I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.

    If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.

    A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).

  • @westside-steve said:

    You seem to paint all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice.

    If that is not the case and you believe anyone can be anti abortion in the second trimester? Or the first?

    They are fine with you?

    WSS

    Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...

    I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.

    If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.

    A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).

    @mld-woody said:

    Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...

    I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.

    If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.

    A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).

  • @mld-woody said:

    Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...

    I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.

    If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.

    A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).

    @westside-steve said:

    @mld-woody said:

    Well I guess I am not surprised. Most of the responses to my posts debate things I never said. I shouldn't be surprised the same thing is happening here...

    I have at never point painted "all people who are against abortion at any time for any reason as doing so for religious prejudice". Never. Don't put words in my moth just because you disagree.

    If you're claiming "life start are conception" and then tying that to religious principles, then ya, that's probably true.

    A 3rd trimester abortion, IMO, is unnecessary though. I see no reason why someone would need to take that long to figure out whether or not they want to have a kid. (Medical complications excluded).

    So tell me how one is murder and one 4 days earlier, or six weeks earlier or whatever, is having a mole removed?

    WSS

  • Because the world doesn't exist in absolutes

    though some posters on here would make you think it does...

  • @calfoxwc said:

    he said he did not believe in hammering other people with his convictions.

    But now he is doing that?

    I'm not an Obama supporter, though - I just don't like the idea of a theocratic leadership and that's how I see people like Carson/Huckabee.

    @bbedward said:

    But now he is doing that?

    I'm not an Obama supporter, though - I just don't like the idea of a theocratic leadership and that's how I see people like Carson/Huckabee.

    Again and again and again and again because you just don't get it: there are three branches of government -checks and balances (maybe you've heard of it?) To prevent any given presidents personal beliefs from becoming law. Electing ben carson does not mean you'll be living in a theocracy. Don't be so fucking stupid.
  • @bbedward said:

    But now he is doing that?

    I'm not an Obama supporter, though - I just don't like the idea of a theocratic leadership and that's how I see people like Carson/Huckabee.

    Again and again and again and again because you just don't get it: there are three branches of government -checks and balances (maybe you've heard of it?) To prevent any given presidents personal beliefs from becoming law. Electing ben carson does not mean you'll be living in a theocracy. Don't be so fucking stupid.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Again and again and again and again because you just don't get it: there see three branches of government -checks and balances (maybe you've heard of it?) To prevent any given presidents personal beliefs from becoming law. Electing ben carson does not mean you'll be living in a theocracy. Don't be so fucking stupid.

    Doesn't mean I would want to elect a guy who would prefer a theocratic type of leadership. But there's other issues I have with Dr. Carson like his lack of understanding of foreign policy and how the economy works.

    I know there's checks and balances and he could surround himself with brilliant people - but it'd probably be preferable to have the president to be a guy who has a basic understanding of how the world works and doesn't believe that arming the Jews would have prevented the holocaust.

    Don't make any mistake I'll be voting for him if he gets the nomination against Clinton though, but he's not my favorite to win the nomination.