STALLWORTH UPDATE
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You guys keep making these beer references.... I dont know about you all but I usually just drink Bacardi 151 straight. About 6 shots of that in 2 hours and Im trashed. I think you people arent thinking that people do drink liquor you know. Stallworth probably knocked a few shots back instead of drinking 16 beers.
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You guys keep making these beer references.... I dont know about you all but I usually just drink Bacardi 151 straight. About 6 shots of that in 2 hours and Im trashed. I think you people arent thinking that people do drink liquor you know. Stallworth probably knocked a few shots back instead of drinking 16 beers.
You guys keep making these beer references.... I dont know about you all but I usually just drink Bacardi 151 straight. About 6 shots of that in 2 hours and Im trashed. I think you people arent thinking that people do drink liquor you know. Stallworth probably knocked a few shots back instead of drinking 16 beers.
Yes, but we're equating it with what white people drink.
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Munch Bishop just said on All Bets Are Off with Bruce Brennan that the Browns do have the right to withdraw the bonus Stallworth got but he wasnt sure what the cap hit would be if they let him go
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No, being the driver of a car that is involved in an accident that involves a fatality is NOT good enough reason for ANYONE to be suspended from their job WHILE the investigation is ongoing. Once the investigation is complete, if wrongdoing is confirmed (as in this case it seems), then that's a different matter entirely.
we disagree. i'm not going to argue.
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@jadbf said:
You can cut the sanctimonious "innocent until proven guilty" crap already.THIS IS A FREAKIN MESSAGE BOARD!!! THIS IS NOT A COURT OF LAW!!!! Ofcourse every member in here debating what they think should be done to stallworth is doing so basing thier opinions on what they believe the know facts are at this time. If any information comes out later that shows what seems to be the known fact at this time were false, then you can get on your high horse and tell us all you told us so.
No one here is saying he should be punished before he has a trial. People here are voicing their opinions about what they believe a fitting punishment would be.
And also I'll add to that OJ Simpson had a trial too, doesn't mean I believe he didn't do it and should have been punished. There are many reason why it's LIKELY Stallworth will probably get a lesser sentance than a normal person, and one of those is the fact he can afford a good lawyer who will trot out your wonderful "innocent until prove guilty" line too.
It's tired and frankly silly.
xxxx you JADBF. Try following the goddamn posts to see what I was even referring to, which was Jew's statement that Stallworth should be suspended while the investigation is ongoing, BEFORE any evidence of being under the influence. Asshole!
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@jadbf said:
I did follow, and I did see his comments and I agree with them. Employers have a right to suspend their employees the second they are involved in an incident involving the police. And Jew I belive also has the same opinion I do. The fact he was under the influence is IMMATERIAL, Stallworth killed a man with his vehicle. and BY ALL COUNTS, the man he killed was not drunk himself. So what if a cop shoots someone and kills them? aren't they suspended or put on desk duty while the investigation is ongoing? There are many examples where employers have the right to change the status of your employment before charges are even filed. And IMO and I would guess Jew's, playing in the NFL is a privaleged occupation that brings with it more responsibility and the need for a faster reaction than if it was a garbage man who hit this pedestrain.oh and no thank you, I'm Straight. Maybe you can talk to lums.
Whatever dude. Also, at the time there was NOTHING of proof indicating the state of the man killed, i.e. drunk, high, whatever. As for cops, yes, they are put on desk duty. That is NOT suspended. For a prime example of jumping the gun on suspensions before proof, just look at the Duke situation. But believe what ya want, I'm just glad I don't live in a country being run by you two, would seem too much like Russia.
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@jadbf said:
I did follow, and I did see his comments and I agree with them. Employers have a right to suspend their employees the second they are involved in an incident involving the police. And Jew I belive also has the same opinion I do. The fact he was under the influence is IMMATERIAL, Stallworth killed a man with his vehicle. and BY ALL COUNTS, the man he killed was not drunk himself. So what if a cop shoots someone and kills them? aren't they suspended or put on desk duty while the investigation is ongoing? There are many examples where employers have the right to change the status of your employment before charges are even filed. And IMO and I would guess Jew's, playing in the NFL is a privaleged occupation that brings with it more responsibility and the need for a faster reaction than if it was a garbage man who hit this pedestrain.oh and no thank you, I'm Straight. Maybe you can talk to lums.
Whatever dude. Also, at the time there was NOTHING of proof indicating the state of the man killed, i.e. drunk, high, whatever. As for cops, yes, they are put on desk duty. That is NOT suspended. For a prime example of jumping the gun on suspensions before proof, just look at the Duke situation. But believe what ya want, I'm just glad I don't live in a country being run by you two, would seem too much like Russia.
But believe what ya want, I'm just glad I don't live in a country being run by you two, would seem too much like Russia.
if i ran a country, it'd be much more like north korea.
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You guys keep making these beer references.... I dont know about you all but I usually just drink Bacardi 151 straight. About 6 shots of that in 2 hours and Im trashed. I think you people arent thinking that people do drink liquor you know. Stallworth probably knocked a few shots back instead of drinking 16 beers.
Yes, but we're equating it with what white people drink.
AdaM said:
Yes, but we're equating it with what white people drink.And apparently, bigots.
The 'thanks' for your post was unintentional. Call me trigger happy.
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Man all you people are xxxxed up.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
You guys keep making these beer references.... I dont know about you all but I usually just drink Bacardi 151 straight. About 6 shots of that in 2 hours and Im trashed. I think you people arent thinking that people do drink liquor you know. Stallworth probably knocked a few shots back instead of drinking 16 beers.
Yes, but we're equating it with what white people drink.
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Man all you people are xxxxed up.
Man all you people are xxxxed up.
Man, I love this off-season ... great intensity.
BTW, no one drinks 151 for pleasure. That's just stupid.
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The law is ambiguous when stating who really had the right-of-way at the crosswalk where this happened. Clear;y, the guy was jaywalking, as Stallworth blew through a yellow, not a red.
Jaywalking is an informal term used to refer to illegal or reckless pedestrian crossing of a roadway. Examples include a pedestrian crossing between intersections (outside a crosswalk, marked or unmarked) without yielding to drivers and starting to cross a crosswalk at a signalized intersection without waiting for a permissive indication to be displayed. In the United States, state statutes generally reflect the Uniform Vehicle Code in requiring drivers to yield the right of way to a pedestrians at crosswalks; at other locations, crossing pedestrians are either required to yield to drivers or, under some conditions, are prohibited from crossing.
Perhaps it comes down to state or local law here? I dunno. Whatever the case, this is a horrible thing.
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Man all you people are xxxxed up.
Man, I love this off-season ... great intensity.
BTW, no one drinks 151 for pleasure. That's just stupid.
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The law is ambiguous when stating who really had the right-of-way at the crosswalk where this happened. Clear;y, the guy was jaywalking, as Stallworth blew through a yellow, not a red.
Jaywalking is an informal term used to refer to illegal or reckless pedestrian crossing of a roadway. Examples include a pedestrian crossing between intersections (outside a crosswalk, marked or unmarked) without yielding to drivers and starting to cross a crosswalk at a signalized intersection without waiting for a permissive indication to be displayed. In the United States, state statutes generally reflect the Uniform Vehicle Code in requiring drivers to yield the right of way to a pedestrians at crosswalks; at other locations, crossing pedestrians are either required to yield to drivers or, under some conditions, are prohibited from crossing.
Perhaps it comes down to state or local law here? I dunno. Whatever the case, this is a horrible thing.
mz. said:
The law is ambiguous when stating who really had the right-of-way at the crosswalk where this happened. Clear;y, the guy was jaywalking, as Stallworth blew through a yellow, not a red.Perhaps it comes down to state or local law here? I dunno. Whatever the case, this is a horrible thing.
I finally talked to my brother today. He's a retired cop.
He said that in cases in which he was involved that were similar to this one, the courts will not even consider the fact that the person was jaywalking and that the DUI takes precedent due to the seriousness of the offense. He actually used a legal term and now I can't think of it.
He said he knew of a case where a driver did not yield to an oncoming car and pulled out in front of it and was T-boned.
But the car that did not yield ended up NOT being cited because the driver who had T-boned him was intoxicated and driving well past the speed limit.
He's pretty sure the justice system will look at this situation in the same way. Especially if it's true that he accelerated to beat a yellow light while being intoxicated.
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mz. said:
The law is ambiguous when stating who really had the right-of-way at the crosswalk where this happened. Clear;y, the guy was jaywalking, as Stallworth blew through a yellow, not a red.Perhaps it comes down to state or local law here? I dunno. Whatever the case, this is a horrible thing.
I finally talked to my brother today. He's a retired cop.
He said that in cases in which he was involved that were similar to this one, the courts will not even consider the fact that the person was jaywalking and that the DUI takes precedent due to the seriousness of the offense. He actually used a legal term and now I can't think of it.
He said he knew of a case where a driver did not yield to an oncoming car and pulled out in front of it and was T-boned.
But the car that did not yield ended up NOT being cited because the driver who had T-boned him was intoxicated and driving well past the speed limit.
He's pretty sure the justice system will look at this situation in the same way. Especially if it's true that he accelerated to beat a yellow light while being intoxicated.
I finally talked to my brother today. He's a retired cop.
He said that in cases in which he was involved that were similar to this one, the courts will not even consider the fact that the person was jaywalking and that the DUI takes precedent due to the seriousness of the offense. He actually used a legal term and now I can't think of it.
He said he knew of a case where a driver did not yield to an oncoming car and pulled out in front of it and was T-boned.
But the car that did not yield ended up NOT being cited because the driver who had T-boned him was intoxicated and driving well past the speed limit.
He's pretty sure the justice system will look at this situation in the same way. Especially if it's true that he accelerated to beat a yellow light while being intoxicated.
Your right about the seriousness and the fact there was a death. Put the two together and Stallworth is pretty much screwed.
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Yinz are now talking about the seriousness of a DUI death when the victim may have been jaywalking?
No wonder stains fans are considered the trashiest in the NFL.
Regards
..... an'at
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Yinz are now talking about the seriousness of a DUI death when the victim may have been jaywalking?
No wonder stains fans are considered the trashiest in the NFL.
Regards
..... an'at
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Steeler SChuck said:
Yinz are now talking about the seriousness of a DUI death when the victim may have been jaywalking?No wonder stains fans are considered the trashiest in the NFL.
Regards
..... an'at
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First of all, how is it that they let steeler fans onto this board let alone a steeler fan that says "yinz". Everything about this guy from his name, to the stupid fat redneck firing the guns, to the F*CKING stupid ass sig, and his little phrase "YINZ" shouts obnoxiousness.
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Yinz are now talking about the seriousness of a DUI death when the victim may have been jaywalking?
No wonder stains fans are considered the trashiest in the NFL.
Regards
..... an'at
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Steeler SChuck said:
Yinz are now talking about the seriousness of a deathHow are Mike Webster and Steve Courson these days?
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