***Official Browns Vs. Cardinals Game Day Thread***
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hehehe...yards.....how many rbis does he have? stolen bases?
His advanced stats(you know...the things he does that actually contribute to wins) were average going into this one. I'd guess after this one and todays performance a little below average.
hehehe...yards.....how many rbis does he have? stolen bases?
His advanced stats(you know...the things he does that actually contribute to wins) were average going into this one. I'd guess after this one and todays performance a little below average.
i'll tell you what, the dude should get a fucking purple heart for the way he has hung in there...this team is fucking shit dude, guess it was his fault when turbin fumbled 2x... the ol fucking sucks big time..we have the running game of a turd and you are blaming this shit on him.. i'm not a hugh mccowan fan but with this shitass team he has done great...the only thing you are going to see now is a total rebuild again....don't know what coaches will be fired, but there will probably be some.
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This team is what it is. The sunshine pumpers thought 10-6, realists knew 5-11
This team is what it is. The sunshine pumpers thought 10-6, realists knew 5-11
dey ain't going 5-11....that would be a stretch...i said they may not win another one unless someone at the end of the season that can't advance in their playoff position, may play their 3rd stringers...mmmmmmmaybe then we win 4...
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dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.
Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.
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the defense gave up 24 pts.....not good at all. But the offense put them in terrible situations again and again and again.....
and let it be known that saying the offense 'scored' 20 pts(which isn't good btw) is sort of misleading....they took over on the 10 yard line secondary to a big turnover by defense for first, and the point expectation for that situation is about 5.3....hell even if you only 'credit' 3 in that situation, that means the offense still only scored 17 pts....which means they would have scored 40 pts on offense in 3 games....that's horrific.
Against Denver, St. Louis and Arizona two of the top 5 defenses in the NFL. Manziel has played one good game against fucking Tennessee and looked like shit against everyone save one drive against the Bills second string D last year.
Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.Against Denver, St. Louis and Arizona two of the top 5 defenses in the NFL. Manziel has played one good game against fucking Tennessee and looked like shit against everyone save one drive against the Bills second string D last year.
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dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.
Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.
dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.
Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.
And hire who as the new head coach? Pettine will stay..
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but his all goes back to pettine's very short term and 'me' view.....he has it in his head that getting to 7-9 or whatever may, just may, save his job. So he will do whatever he can to protect that....even if it offers little longterm hope for the browns. He would literally blow our franchise up if it meant he gets to stay in the nfl another couple weeks. A desparate nobody nfl coach is not good for franchises....
but his all goes back to pettine's very short term and 'me' view.....he has it in his head that getting to 7-9 or whatever may, just may, save his job. So he will do whatever he can to protect that....even if it offers little longterm hope for the browns. He would literally blow our franchise up if it meant he gets to stay in the nfl another couple weeks. A desparate nobody nfl coach is not good for franchises....
7-9? uh uh uh 7-9?...playoffs? what? playoffs?....heheheheeee...like the soup nazi on jerry seinfeld...no more wins for you....
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Tacos only brings up stats that are convenient for his point. Which is Manziel.
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Here's where I'm coming from. I'm not stupid enough to believe that a mediocre 36 year old qb is going to take us anywhere. He may or may not even be on the roster next year. This season is toast. We drafted Johnny Manziel in the first round. Let him play and try to develop. Then you'll at least know what you need to do come draft day. Draft a qb or not. Manziel may be a total bust, or he just might turn out to be a great qb. Judging him on what he's been allowed to play so far is unfair. Give him the last 8 games and then see where he's at. You're not gonna find out with him standing on the sidelines, and at 2-6 what's it gonna hurt to give him a try?
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Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.Against Denver, St. Louis and Arizona two of the top 5 defenses in the NFL. Manziel has played one good game against fucking Tennessee and looked like shit against everyone save one drive against the Bills second string D last year.
Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.
Manziel had 2 good throws.. The deep bombs to Benjamin. The rest was crap.
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One Post From the Truth said:
Game Day prediction. Johnny will make an appearance in the game. Most likely in the third quarter.
Really?
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hire who? hire anyone!! Its a god damn nfl head coaching job....tons of people want that and there are only 32. its not even a question as to whether pettine is gone.....barring some miracle like johnny runs off 6 in a row next week or the week after when pettine finally makes the change.
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dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.
Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.
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brownsfan4ever- that's reasonable....and feeling that way doesn't mean one is pro-johnny. One can be fairly anti-johnny and still understand that the reasonable thing to do is give him the next several starters. And then if he sucks cut or trade his ass. But starting mcclown makes no sense at this point in any case.
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Letting a guy play who is in so much pain he can hardly stand up straight.........man, Pettine must really hate Manziel.
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Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.Against Denver, St. Louis and Arizona two of the top 5 defenses in the NFL. Manziel has played one good game against fucking Tennessee and looked like shit against everyone save one drive against the Bills second string D last year.
Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.
They give up points, 15th in points allowed
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I'm definitely not a pro-Manziel guy, nor am I a hate-Manziel guy. I'm a "give the kid a fair shot, what can it hurt" guy.
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dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.
Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.
dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.
Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.
again, we have the running game of a turd...what the hell do you think opposing defenses are going to do when they know you can't even gain minimal ydg on the ground. it's basic fundamentals...you have a bad ol and no running game, your qb is going to get killed...
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brownsfan4ever- that's reasonable....and feeling that way doesn't mean one is pro-johnny. One can be fairly anti-johnny and still understand that the reasonable thing to do is give him the next several starters. And then if he sucks cut or trade his ass. But starting mcclown makes no sense at this point in any case.
brownsfan4ever- that's reasonable....and feeling that way doesn't mean one is pro-johnny. One can be fairly anti-johnny and still understand that the reasonable thing to do is give him the next several starters. And then if he sucks cut or trade his ass. But starting mcclown makes no sense at this point in any case.
I completely agree with this but not because Mccown is somehow deficient and that's where we disagree.
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Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.
Manziel had 2 good throws.. The deep bombs to Benjamin. The rest was crap.
That might be you expert in depth analysis but we did get the win.Manziel had 2 good throws.. The deep bombs to Benjamin. The rest was crap.
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