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  • B BaconHound

    @tacosman said:

    the defense gave up 24 pts.....not good at all. But the offense put them in terrible situations again and again and again.....

    and let it be known that saying the offense 'scored' 20 pts(which isn't good btw) is sort of misleading....they took over on the 10 yard line secondary to a big turnover by defense for first, and the point expectation for that situation is about 5.3....hell even if you only 'credit' 3 in that situation, that means the offense still only scored 17 pts....which means they would have scored 40 pts on offense in 3 games....that's horrific.

    Against Denver, St. Louis and Arizona two of the top 5 defenses in the NFL. Manziel has played one good game against fucking Tennessee and looked like shit against everyone save one drive against the Bills second string D last year.

    RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on
    #118

    @baconhound said:

    Against Denver, St. Louis and Arizona two of the top 5 defenses in the NFL. Manziel has played one good game against fucking Tennessee and looked like shit against everyone save one drive against the Bills second string D last year.

    Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.
    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
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  • T Tacosman

    dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.

    Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.

    B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on
    #119

    @tacosman said:

    dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.

    Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.

    And hire who as the new head coach? Pettine will stay..

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  • T Tacosman

    but his all goes back to pettine's very short term and 'me' view.....he has it in his head that getting to 7-9 or whatever may, just may, save his job. So he will do whatever he can to protect that....even if it offers little longterm hope for the browns. He would literally blow our franchise up if it meant he gets to stay in the nfl another couple weeks. A desparate nobody nfl coach is not good for franchises....

    B browns52 wrote on
    #120

    @tacosman said:

    but his all goes back to pettine's very short term and 'me' view.....he has it in his head that getting to 7-9 or whatever may, just may, save his job. So he will do whatever he can to protect that....even if it offers little longterm hope for the browns. He would literally blow our franchise up if it meant he gets to stay in the nfl another couple weeks. A desparate nobody nfl coach is not good for franchises....

    7-9? uh uh uh 7-9?...playoffs? what? playoffs?....heheheheeee...like the soup nazi on jerry seinfeld...no more wins for you....

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #121

    Tacos only brings up stats that are convenient for his point. Which is Manziel.

    RichiswhereR 1 Reply
  • BrownsFan4EvrB BrownsFan4Evr wrote on
    #122

    Here's where I'm coming from. I'm not stupid enough to believe that a mediocre 36 year old qb is going to take us anywhere. He may or may not even be on the roster next year. This season is toast. We drafted Johnny Manziel in the first round. Let him play and try to develop. Then you'll at least know what you need to do come draft day. Draft a qb or not. Manziel may be a total bust, or he just might turn out to be a great qb. Judging him on what he's been allowed to play so far is unfair. Give him the last 8 games and then see where he's at. You're not gonna find out with him standing on the sidelines, and at 2-6 what's it gonna hurt to give him a try?

  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

    @baconhound said:

    Against Denver, St. Louis and Arizona two of the top 5 defenses in the NFL. Manziel has played one good game against fucking Tennessee and looked like shit against everyone save one drive against the Bills second string D last year.

    Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.
    B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on
    #123

    @richiswhere said:

    Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.

    Manziel had 2 good throws.. The deep bombs to Benjamin. The rest was crap.

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  • dawg2fanD dawg2fan

    One Post From the Truth said:

    Game Day prediction. Johnny will make an appearance in the game. Most likely in the third quarter.

    Really?

    One PostO One Post wrote on
    #124

    @dawg2fan said:

    Really?

    Ya the next time I get one of those "feelings" I'll STFU.

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  • T Tacosman wrote on
    #125

    hire who? hire anyone!! Its a god damn nfl head coaching job....tons of people want that and there are only 32. its not even a question as to whether pettine is gone.....barring some miracle like johnny runs off 6 in a row next week or the week after when pettine finally makes the change.

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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    Tacos only brings up stats that are convenient for his point. Which is Manziel.

    RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on
    #126

    @bbedward said:

    Tacos only brings up stats that are convenient for his point. Which is Manziel.

    Just about everybody does that on this board.
    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
  • T Tacosman

    dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.

    Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
    #127

    @tacosman said:

    dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.

    Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.

    And who are you going to hire?

  • T Tacosman wrote on
    #128

    brownsfan4ever- that's reasonable....and feeling that way doesn't mean one is pro-johnny. One can be fairly anti-johnny and still understand that the reasonable thing to do is give him the next several starters. And then if he sucks cut or trade his ass. But starting mcclown makes no sense at this point in any case.

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  • BrownsFan4EvrB BrownsFan4Evr wrote on
    #129

    Letting a guy play who is in so much pain he can hardly stand up straight.........man, Pettine must really hate Manziel.

  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

    @baconhound said:

    Against Denver, St. Louis and Arizona two of the top 5 defenses in the NFL. Manziel has played one good game against fucking Tennessee and looked like shit against everyone save one drive against the Bills second string D last year.

    Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.
    B BaconHound wrote on
    #130

    @richiswhere said:

    Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.

    They give up points, 15th in points allowed

  • BrownsFan4EvrB BrownsFan4Evr wrote on
    #131

    I'm definitely not a pro-Manziel guy, nor am I a hate-Manziel guy. I'm a "give the kid a fair shot, what can it hurt" guy.

  • T Tacosman

    dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.

    Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.

    B browns52 wrote on
    #132

    @tacosman said:

    dude, he has to 'hang in there' because he doesn't know how to manage a pocket, throw the ball away, slide right, etc....that's on him.

    Also, Ill tell you what 'coaches will be fired'- all of them, including the head coach.

    again, we have the running game of a turd...what the hell do you think opposing defenses are going to do when they know you can't even gain minimal ydg on the ground. it's basic fundamentals...you have a bad ol and no running game, your qb is going to get killed...

  • T Tacosman

    brownsfan4ever- that's reasonable....and feeling that way doesn't mean one is pro-johnny. One can be fairly anti-johnny and still understand that the reasonable thing to do is give him the next several starters. And then if he sucks cut or trade his ass. But starting mcclown makes no sense at this point in any case.

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #133

    @tacosman said:

    brownsfan4ever- that's reasonable....and feeling that way doesn't mean one is pro-johnny. One can be fairly anti-johnny and still understand that the reasonable thing to do is give him the next several starters. And then if he sucks cut or trade his ass. But starting mcclown makes no sense at this point in any case.

    I completely agree with this but not because Mccown is somehow deficient and that's where we disagree.

  • B bringbackbrownie2

    @richiswhere said:

    Last I checked Titans are in the top 5 defense.

    Manziel had 2 good throws.. The deep bombs to Benjamin. The rest was crap.

    RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on
    #134

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    Manziel had 2 good throws.. The deep bombs to Benjamin. The rest was crap.

    That might be you expert in depth analysis but we did get the win.
    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    How many points did the defense give up in the second half? That's also not that hard of a question.

    4 more than what the Browns scored in the 1st half.
    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on
    #135

    @richiswhere said:

    4 more than what the Browns scored in the 1st half.

    Good math suggests that a defense that gives up more points than the offense scores rarely wins.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • T Tacosman

    hire who? hire anyone!! Its a god damn nfl head coaching job....tons of people want that and there are only 32. its not even a question as to whether pettine is gone.....barring some miracle like johnny runs off 6 in a row next week or the week after when pettine finally makes the change.

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #136

    @tacosman said:

    hire who? hire anyone!! Its a god damn nfl head coaching job....tons of people want that and there are only 32. its not even a question as to whether pettine is gone.....barring some miracle like johnny runs off 6 in a row next week or the week after when pettine finally makes the change.

    You overestimate the opportunity of coaching a perennial loser that fires head coaches every 2 years. Look where Chud, Mangini, Shurmur, etc. ended up after Cleveland, co-ordinators nothing more.

  • B BaconHound

    @tacosman said:

    hehehe...yards.....how many rbis does he have? stolen bases?

    His advanced stats(you know...the things he does that actually contribute to wins) were average going into this one. I'd guess after this one and todays performance a little below average.

    And Manziel's career numbers? Fucking Terrible

    The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #137

    @baconhound said:

    And Manziel's career numbers? Fucking Terrible

    All 3 games? Well that's a hell of a sample size. I mean nobody could ever need to see more than that

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
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