Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Was going to go out to the bar with my friends to watch the Thursday game. If Manziel starts, I think I still have last years Bengals game on DVR and I can just stay home and rewatch that. Save me some money.
Was going to go out to the bar with my friends to watch the Thursday game. If Manziel starts, I think I still have last years Bengals game on DVR and I can just stay home and rewatch that. Save me some money.
The Bengals can't play after 8PM, don't forget that. We seem to be at our best in prime time games, but then again we don't get that many of them.
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They changed it since I linked it . . . Article looks a bit different as well.
Ha!...ok, so they rewrote the article in 5 minutes???......oy....
Looks more like you rewrote the thread title.....call me crazy.....
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Who cares
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Who cares
Who cares
Apparently you do. You crave the attention. Otherwise, why bother posting or even watching?
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Manziel will start this Thursday or the sunday after.....just depends on whether Pettine wants to give him a full week of practice before the switch is made.
I think Pettine wants to keep his job, and even though it looks like he is almost certainly going to be fired after this year(you see him looking like such a sad defeated man in pressers), he knows that the only sliver of hope he has is to try to make a change and have JM create some hope for the future. If Manziel can go 4-3 or whatever with some nice play towards the last 7 games, it is within the realm of possibility for Haslam and co to say "you know, maybe pettine and manziel have us on the upswing".....
The problem is I don't think Pettine believes in manziel....at all. So that's a problem.
Pettine is fucked either way really....he's probably trying to put off bringing JM in as long as possible because he feels that he has a better chance of making a superficial positive impression with a small sample size. But then the problem is if Manziel is brought in with 4 games left and plays well and goes 3-1, Pettine is going to take heat because the obvious criticism is going to be "where was he earlier".....
Pettine has really put himself in a no win situation....short of bringing johnny in now and finishing 7-1 or something absurd.
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Manziel will start this Thursday or the sunday after.....just depends on whether Pettine wants to give him a full week of practice before the switch is made.
I think Pettine wants to keep his job, and even though it looks like he is almost certainly going to be fired after this year(you see him looking like such a sad defeated man in pressers), he knows that the only sliver of hope he has is to try to make a change and have JM create some hope for the future. If Manziel can go 4-3 or whatever with some nice play towards the last 7 games, it is within the realm of possibility for Haslam and co to say "you know, maybe pettine and manziel have us on the upswing".....
The problem is I don't think Pettine believes in manziel....at all. So that's a problem.
Pettine is fucked either way really....he's probably trying to put off bringing JM in as long as possible because he feels that he has a better chance of making a superficial positive impression with a small sample size. But then the problem is if Manziel is brought in with 4 games left and plays well and goes 3-1, Pettine is going to take heat because the obvious criticism is going to be "where was he earlier".....
Pettine has really put himself in a no win situation....short of bringing johnny in now and finishing 7-1 or something absurd.
Manziel will start this Thursday or the sunday after.....just depends on whether Pettine wants to give him a full week of practice before the switch is made.
This will be your excuse if he performs poorly Thursday I suspect
I think Pettine wants to keep his job, and even though it looks like he is almost certainly going to be fired after this year(you see him looking like such a sad defeated man in pressers), he knows that the only sliver of hope he has is to try to make a change and have JM create some hope for the future. If Manziel can go 4-3 or whatever with some nice play towards the last 7 games, it is within the realm of possibility for Haslam and co to say "you know, maybe pettine and manziel have us on the upswing".....
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The problem is I don't think Pettine believes in manziel....at all. So that's a problem.
What reason does he have to believe he's better than McCown?
Pettine is fucked either way really....he's probably trying to put off bringing JM in as long as possible because he feels that he has a better chance of making a superficial positive impression with a small sample size. But then the problem is if Manziel is brought in with 4 games left and plays well and goes 3-1, Pettine is going to take heat because the obvious criticism is going to be "where was he earlier".....
Pettine has really put himself in a no win situation....short of bringing johnny in now and finishing 7-1 or something absurd.
Your logic is flawed because McCown isn't the main reason we're losing games at the moment, but maybe I'm not looking at the "right stats"
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McCown will start. He will be outfitted with Cam Newton's flak jacket, Wes Welker's double paddled helmet, and two Stone Cold Steve Austin knee braces
Johnny will only touch the field if McCown is Dead, unconscious, or has his right arm severed.
/insert sarcasm
McCown will start. He will be outfitted with Cam Newton's flak jacket, Wes Welker's double paddled helmet, and two Stone Cold Steve Austin knee braces
Johnny will only touch the field if McCown is Dead, unconscious, or has his right arm severed.
/insert sarcasm
I actually LOL when I read this. Add in leg broken. You have to remember (even though it doesn't show up well) Board rule- If you want to be sarcastic- put it in pink font.
With the short turnaround- considering the beating McCown took on Sunday- Pettine won't be doing Josh any favors playing him Thursday night. Considering the pass rush the Bengals will generate, Manziel has a slightly higher escapability quotient than Josh.
Compared to the Bengals WR contingent, the Brown's pretty much sucks. If Haden is out again- we have no one who can cover AJ Green.
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bbedward- I have no idea if Johnny plays well. I wont make excuses if he doesn't. He needs to have several starts, and if he doesn't show a lot in those we can write him off as a potential contributor to this team in a real sense I believe. I think, based on what I've seen, it's more likely than not that Johnny is not a big splash in his several starts. but if your pettine I still think you gotta roll the dice and try it. A chance of hanging on to your job if he does a lot better than everyone(including he) thinks is much better than the death spiral he is currently in.
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Ha!...ok, so they rewrote the article in 5 minutes???......oy....
Fucking liberal media...
Manziel will start this Thursday or the sunday after.....just depends on whether Pettine wants to give him a full week of practice before the switch is made.
I think Pettine wants to keep his job, and even though it looks like he is almost certainly going to be fired after this year(you see him looking like such a sad defeated man in pressers), he knows that the only sliver of hope he has is to try to make a change and have JM create some hope for the future. If Manziel can go 4-3 or whatever with some nice play towards the last 7 games, it is within the realm of possibility for Haslam and co to say "you know, maybe pettine and manziel have us on the upswing".....
The problem is I don't think Pettine believes in manziel....at all. So that's a problem.
Pettine is fucked either way really....he's probably trying to put off bringing JM in as long as possible because he feels that he has a better chance of making a superficial positive impression with a small sample size. But then the problem is if Manziel is brought in with 4 games left and plays well and goes 3-1, Pettine is going to take heat because the obvious criticism is going to be "where was he earlier".....
Pettine has really put himself in a no win situation....short of bringing johnny in now and finishing 7-1 or something absurd.
Reading your posts brings to mind the little girl digging through a pile of horse shit convinced there's a pony in there somewhere...
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Browns committed to injured McCown
QB Josh McCown is day-to-day after injuring his ribs in Sunday's loss to Arizona. He was limited in practice due to a sore right shoulder and bruised ribs. Cleveland coach Mike Pettine said the team hasn't reached the point where it would decide to take a look at young players like backup QB Johnny Manziel.
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Browns committed to injured McCown
QB Josh McCown is day-to-day after injuring his ribs in Sunday's loss to Arizona. He was limited in practice due to a sore right shoulder and bruised ribs. Cleveland coach Mike Pettine said the team hasn't reached the point where it would decide to take a look at young players like backup QB Johnny Manziel.
Browns committed to injured McCown
QB Josh McCown is day-to-day after injuring his ribs in Sunday's loss to Arizona. He was limited in practice due to a sore right shoulder and bruised ribs. Cleveland coach Mike Pettine said the team hasn't reached the point where it would decide to take a look at young players like backup QB Johnny Manziel.
Nor should he.
You play the best players as long as you are alive.
Right now, the two wild cards have just two more wins than us, and one of them just got both QBs injured in the same game.
Pittsburgh ... We've got them twice, and they just lost a big playmaker.
Everyone else has a losing record.
9-7 can probably take a WC this year.
Are we likely to go 7-1 the rest of the way? No.
But giving up is for chicken shits.
When/if we are officially eliminated then we can "look at" guys that we probably already know what we have.
I prefer "getting them game time experience" over "looking at them" ... but to each their own.
Zombo
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Browns committed to injured McCown
QB Josh McCown is day-to-day after injuring his ribs in Sunday's loss to Arizona. He was limited in practice due to a sore right shoulder and bruised ribs. Cleveland coach Mike Pettine said the team hasn't reached the point where it would decide to take a look at young players like backup QB Johnny Manziel.
Browns committed to injured McCown
QB Josh McCown is day-to-day after injuring his ribs in Sunday's loss to Arizona. He was limited in practice due to a sore right shoulder and bruised ribs. Cleveland coach Mike Pettine said the team hasn't reached the point where it would decide to take a look at young players like backup QB Johnny Manziel.
I have no idea how McCown could be good to go after that beating with the short week.
I know many people are wishing he'd just miss a game so Johnny can play, but I have much respect for his toughness - it's the sort of thing you should be happy to see from your players...
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Though McCown isn't having a good season if you look at the right stats.
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Browns committed to injured McCown
QB Josh McCown is day-to-day after injuring his ribs in Sunday's loss to Arizona. He was limited in practice due to a sore right shoulder and bruised ribs. Cleveland coach Mike Pettine said the team hasn't reached the point where it would decide to take a look at young players like backup QB Johnny Manziel.
I have no idea how McCown could be good to go after that beating with the short week.
I know many people are wishing he'd just miss a game so Johnny can play, but I have much respect for his toughness - it's the sort of thing you should be happy to see from your players...
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Though McCown isn't having a good season if you look at the right stats.
I have no idea how McCown could be good to go after that beating with the short week.
I know many people are wishing he'd just miss a game so Johnny can play, but I have much respect for his toughness - it's the sort of thing you should be happy to see from your players...
It would seem surprising to me as well. But the dude is tough.
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Browns committed to injured McCown
QB Josh McCown is day-to-day after injuring his ribs in Sunday's loss to Arizona. He was limited in practice due to a sore right shoulder and bruised ribs. Cleveland coach Mike Pettine said the team hasn't reached the point where it would decide to take a look at young players like backup QB Johnny Manziel.
Nor should he.
You play the best players as long as you are alive.
Right now, the two wild cards have just two more wins than us, and one of them just got both QBs injured in the same game.
Pittsburgh ... We've got them twice, and they just lost a big playmaker.
Everyone else has a losing record.
9-7 can probably take a WC this year.
Are we likely to go 7-1 the rest of the way? No.
But giving up is for chicken shits.
When/if we are officially eliminated then we can "look at" guys that we probably already know what we have.
I prefer "getting them game time experience" over "looking at them" ... but to each their own.
Zombo
There's always the needle, guys...
Prior to my torn labrum repair in my left shoulder, my Doc wanted to do a cortisone shot into the joint. It was preceded by Novocain shots so I would not feel the "big needle". For four hours my shoulder felt as good as it had pre-injury.
Zombo said:
Nor should he.
You play the best players as long as you are alive.
Exactly, Z. Our staff can't give up on the season until the math says the playoffs are out of reach.
And there is no prize for being the first "fan" to say "it's over" and having it end up true.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
There's always the needle, guys...
Prior to my torn labrum repair in my left shoulder, my Doc wanted to do a cortisone shot into the joint. It was preceded by Novocain shots so I would not feel the "big needle". For four hours my shoulder felt as good as it had pre-injury.
Zombo said:
Nor should he.
You play the best players as long as you are alive.
Exactly, Z. Our staff can't give up on the season until the math says the playoffs are out of reach.
And there is no prize for being the first "fan" to say "it's over" and having it end up true.
And there is no prize for being the first "fan" to say "it's over" and having it end up true.
Are you completely sure about this? It seems there are quite a few posters around here who want to be able to say "I told you so" every single week.
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